Drug dealer, fairy tale, imaginary hip black friend, gang bang, cult, shuck-and-jive, Hispanics

[ProSense]

don't vote for black people, Obama is Somalian, Obama meets with former terrorists, all from Hillary's campaign and surrogates.

[BeyondGeography]

1. Yes, but Obama swiftboated the Clintons on race

:sarcasm:

[jackson_dem]

8. We all know the Clintons had a great motive for bringing race up just in time for South Carolina

Especially since they had just come off of upset defeats in New Hampshire and Nevada.

[Occam Bandage]

54. Yeah. They wanted to marginalize him as "the Black candidate," like Jesse Jackson had been.

[kwenu]

125. Yeah. Bill just thought it was so humorous to compare Obama to Jesee Jackson. Not funny now is it?

[MethuenProgressive]

49. How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton

How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary Clinton
After several weeks of swooning, news reports are finally being filed about the gap between Senator Barack Obama's promises of a pure, soul-cleansing "new" politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign.

http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=aa0cd21b-0ff2-4329-88a1-69c6c268b304

[ProSense]

97. That story has been debunked down thread! n/t

[blm]

2. and the celestial choirs will Sinnnnnnnnnngggggggg...

.

[JVS]

12. La la la LAAAAAAAA la la laaaaaa!

[ProSense]

103. What was that? n/t

[blm]

106. my impersonation of HRC perpetuating the 'cult' and 'messiah' memes

Hey - you have to picture me doing it.....after a glass of merlot.

[ProSense]

107. LOL! I know that!

I just can't imagine what caused her to go there.

[Occam Bandage]

3. Which is why I always smile at the pathetic cries of "Obama swiftboated the Clintons on Race!"

Nothin' like people blaming the opposition for the fact that their dirty tricks backfired.

[The Anti-Bush]

44. They are just follow the example of their candidate

Remember how Bill cried "voter suppression" in Nevada after Hillary tried to get the caucuses closed early?

[workinclasszero]

4. I blame...

Obama!?!?!?:sarcasm:

The Clinton's and their backers should hang their heads in shame.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

5. ZOMG! I'm alerting!

:P

[ProSense]

6. Marcia Pappas, Kennedy-Basher, Heads to Ohio for Clinton

Marcia Pappas, Kennedy-Basher, Heads to Ohio for Clinton

by Azi Paybarah | February 22, 2008

Marcia Pappas, the outspoken activist who called Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of Barack Obama a “betrayal" to women, is heading to Ohio Wednesday to campaign for Hillary Clinton.

Pappas, the president of the National Organization for Women-New York State, said her past comments won’t be an issue.

She told me this morning, “Certainly what I said drew attention temporarily, but I don’t think that it takes away from Hillary Clinton’s campaign. What we try to do is bring attention to the issues that affect women and via Hilary being the sacrificial lamb at this point in history, we certainly have been able to talk about sexism in a way that we have not been able to talk about it before. And it’s been brought out to the forefront due to the fact that I spoke out so vehemently against Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama.”

Pappas also disputed the notion that Clinton would end her campaign anytime soon.

“I have not heard any call for her to drop out. In fact, I’ve heard calls from people that I know for her to stay in and fight till the end.”

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[jackson_dem]

7. Thank you Obamites for whining for a thread limit!

:yourock:

PS when you post a real thread discussing the tactics employed by both campaigns I am sure many will be happy to discuss the issue. This thread is nothing more than a catalogue of Obamite talking points that were used to swiftboat the Clintons just in the nick of time for the South Carolina primary...

[SoFlaJet]

10. yea because we KNOW

Clinton people would NEVER spam the board to try and inflame the discouse around here

[jackson_dem]

11. The funny part is you guys succeeded in getting P2BA banned

He was the reason Obamites wanted to ram through a thread limit in the first place. With him gone the net effect of the limit is to muzzle a certain Obamite.

[SoFlaJet]

20. "you guys"?

who I have never asked that a person be banned here in all my years of being here, nor have I ever put anyone on ignore. But I'll say this JD if anybody ever deserved to BE banned it was that asshat-he had one purpose and one purpose only to inflame the board with propaganda

[dionysus]

31. p2ba was a piece of shit troll...

[Occam Bandage]

56. P2BA got his own ass banned. We had nothing to do with it.

[kid a]

113. many will follow very soon

[sniffa]

123. But how can we miss him if he keeps coming back

I think he's had well over double digit zombie accounts since that wonderful day.

[Forkboy]

81. He was a fuckhead. You would like him.

[ProSense]

110. Wow! n/t

[texas_indy]

37. Obamites!?? I like Obamatron much beater. Obamatron has an good solid

ring to it, just like "Borg"!

"Obamatrons unite, resistance is futile!" OR "Obamites unite, resistance is futile"

See, Obamatrons much better!!


Texas is Obama country! VIVA OBAMA!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fd-MVU4vtU

[The Anti-Bush]

46. And every word of the OP was true.

[Occam Bandage]

55. Yes. The thread limit is a good idea.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

9. Great. More Tabloid Bullshit.

The fairy tale issue had nothing to do with race and both that and the Johnson comments were completely turned into issues where there really weren't any. The gang bang comment had nothing to do with Hillary's campaign, much of his supporters do act like they're in a cult, Hillary's campaign had no knowledge of the Obama pic being forwarded to Drudge and was likely done by RW'ers, and you're really being quite disingenuous in your presentation of all of it. Course, we're kinda used to that from you at this point.

Just a Garbage OP. For entertainment purposes only.

[ellacott]

13. Johnson's comments were a non-issue?

That's funny.

[jackson_dem]

17. They were an issue but clearly not racist

Unless we think the man who founded BET is somehow racist against black people!

[ellacott]

24. You are showing that this isn't a subject you don't don't fully understand

You all keep using the word racist and you keep using it out of context and you keep saying that the Clintons were accused of being racists. They were not accused of being racists. You guys really need to stop equating all offenses down to racism. This is the problem.

Also if you honestly knew anything about the founder of BET you would know that he is reviled in the many sectors of the black community. Many do feel he was against black people. If you had an understanding of black issues you would have known this.

If you had some form of understanding of black issues you would understand how a person can make a racially insensitive remark and not be considered a racist.

[jackson_dem]

36. I understand the distinction

I say the same thing about Obama and McClurkin. Obama isnt' a bigot but he has no qualms about using bigotry to win votes.

I know Johnson is not beloved and didn't say that. All I said is saying he is a racist makes no sense.

[ellacott]

39. You keep using that word racist

By concentrating on that word you missing the reason that people were offended. In a true sense of the word Johnson could indeed be considered racist against black people.

[blm]

25. Cuz we all know successful black men ALWAYS imply other black men dealt drugs, eh?

Sure....I've seen it for decades. Haven't you?

[jackson_dem]

35. That isn't what Johnson said. He alluded to what Obama has admitted to in his book

If Obama is going to distort Hillary and Edwards' records surely it is fair to allude to what Obama himself has admitted. If Obama wanted a different type of campaign he should have led by example, not having run a negative attack campaign right out the gate.

[blm]

40. Except he was referring to 'community organizing' time period, wasn't he? LOL

Get real. Obama sampling some of Poppy Bush's cheap cocaine is something almost everyone did - and SOME powerful Democrats even sided WITH Poppy bUsh and the secrecy of those illegal operations. Didn't they?

BTW - Can you name them?

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

I Was Referring To Clinton's Lyndon Johnson Comments.

[ellacott]

30. Thank you for the clarification

That incident is still confusing to me. I know she wasn't trying to say anything racist but I could never understand her point.

[jackson_dem]

14. It already has 7 recs. This is an example of how dirty the Obama machine is

Obama claims to be fighting to stop this kind of politics yet he and his machine constantly engage in it. In fact, they have perfected it.

[LisaM]

28. I was wondering how this got so many recs! Thanks for enlightening me.

I have rarely recommended a thread - maybe about 3 times (and I've been here 7 years). It really needs to stand out for me.

[jackson_dem]

38. After 40 minutes they are up to 12

They want any hit piece, even one bereft of any substance like this OP, to get high on the greatest page so they can give maximum exposure to the attack thread.

[Name removed]

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[cali]

58. good grief but you're confused. One more time: Posters on DU

are not an example of anything about the Obama campaign. I pity you for such confusion.

[ProSense]

16. "Bill is every bit as black as Barack."

“Bill is every bit as black as Barack.”

There are more black people that Bill and Hillary lean on,” Young said. “You cannot be president alone. ... To put a brother in there by himself is to set him up for crucifixion. His time will come and the world will be ready for a visionary leadership.”

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[jackson_dem]

18. Charles Barron: blacks should vote for Obama because he is black

Chris Rock: don't vote for the old white lady!

Need I continue?

[ProSense]

19. "Chris Rock"? Is he a member of Obama's campaign? n/t

[jackson_dem]

21. He spoke at an obama event didn't he?

Obama national co-chair: Black superdelegates must vote for the black candidate and if they don't we will threaten them with primary challenges.
Michelle Obama: "black america will 'wake up'"

The list goes on and on, and this is just the racist stuff. Then there is the other dirty stuff Obama's campaign has used, particularly its attacks on Clinton but a few of Obama's dirty tactics were aimed at Edwards as well.

[ProSense]

27. Why was that? You need a lesson in time frames. Hillary's campaign cannot make baseless charges and

then not expect a strong response. That's been her problem all along: expecting that the distortions from her campaign, and her campaign itself, will go unchallenged.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

22. You're Reaching, As Always. Pulling Together Little Bits And Pieces Of Obscure Bullshit, To Make A

deceitful point.

What the fuck does Andrew Young have to do with Hillary?

You're so transparent in your tactics, and I constantly find myself laughing at them. They're so, ya know, enquirish and stuff. :rofl:

[dionysus]

26. well, somebody's especially bitter their candidate is getting trounced...

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

29. I Don't Have A Real Leaning Either Way. Nice Knee Jerk Reaction Though. So Silly.

One needs not have a preference to a candidate, to have an aversion to pure deceitful bullshit. If you were capable of having an objective eye, you'd smell the OP for what it was. But you just go on knee jerkin around pal, you're in good company in this forum.

[dionysus]

33. pardon me, but you've been going apeshit ballistic on obama supporters for quite some time...

there's a pattern.

"I Don't Have A Real Leaning Either Way"...um, sure...

[hfojvt]

34. yeah, that's quite hard to believe based on past evidence

"I don't have a preference either way". Then it must be just a coincidence when your OPs bash Obama or defend Hillary. Either that or it is a kneejerk "go against the flow". I still say the flow is pretty even here. Both the "check in if you think there IS something cultish about Obama" and "Remember before BO, when we used to be Democrats" got about 90 Rs and made the front page of DU. Many times I scan the front page of GDP and find it filled with threads flinging pooh at Obama and/or his supporters.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

41. Just Because I Stand Up To The Knee Jerk, Melodramatic, Deceitful, Immature, Ignorant Bullies,

does not mean in any way I don't support Obama.

See, it's all about objectivity. Obama HIMSELF would CONDEMN half of the posts here made in his name. I just simply don't let people get away with their bullshit, and based on the large number of Obama supporters compared to Hillary supporters, I more often am taking on the former.

Just because someone can't stand the mentality, tactics, ignorance, bullyishness, childishness and pettiness of a small percentage of a candidate's supporters, doesn't make them against that candidate. Such a theory is just plain dumb.

[ProSense]

42. No, it means you're in denial, and must craft every response as a title! n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

43. It Means You Again Posted Inaccurate Bullshit, And I Felt The Need To Speak Out Against It.

Your posting of twisted bullshit has nothing to do with how good of a candidate Obama is. That's the point. :hi:

[dionysus]

47. ProSense is neither "Knee Jerk, Melodramatic, Deceitful, Immature, Ignorant Bullies"

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

48. Okey Dokey Pokey!

:hi:

[dionysus]

59. i can agree to disagree

:hi:

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

63. Okey Dokey Pokey!

:hi:

[Blue-Jay]

127. If I Say It Hard Enough, It Must Be True!

[sniffa]

126. Is it an ALL CAPS DUER?

[mudesi]

105. You're clearly a Clinton supporter

And no, posting something positive about Obama every once in a while, or posting "I don't have a leaning either way" doesn't fool anybody.

[hfojvt]

32. I was gonna question fairy tale in this list as well

What the heck does that have to do with race? As far as the Johnson comments, it seems to me that Hillary supporters made hay with the Reagan comments, and it was black leaders who got upset about that more than it was Obama.

But at least all these things actually happened, unlike some other threads which are pure speculation.

[JVS]

15. Don't forget FARRAKAHN +OBAMA= True LOVE!

[Cha]

23. BOOMERANG!

Obamarang!

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[ProSense]

53. The bogus piece you edited in is using debunked information to make a ridiculous point:

The argument in that piece is based on the health care and NAFTA mailers, and they provide links to the now debunked claims. Hillary's lies regarding those two pieces got a full hearing and were exposed in the recent debate (note that Hillary was caught in her lie about NAFTA, includes video).

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[ProSense]

66. Video: Hillary Clinton in support of NAFTA

Hillary Clinton in support of NAFTA


Sorry she lied!

[MethuenProgressive]

60. "Drug Dealer" - no one ever called Obama a drug dealer, and you know it.

:puke:

[MethuenProgressive]

84. :crickets:

[NorthernSpy]

96. Billy Shaheen: "It'll be, did you ever give drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?"

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/13/clinton_apologizes_to_obama_fo_1.html


Hillary's campaign tried to smear Obama by "raising the issue" of those Republicans "raising the issue" sometime in the future.


:eyes:


It fooled no one.


Except you.

[MethuenProgressive]

111. Thanks for confirming that no one ever called BO a drug dealer.

Why are people so easilay fooled by BO's BS?

[MethuenProgressive]

61. "fairy tale" Clinton called the media's reporting of Obama's record a 'fairy tale' and you know it.

[MethuenProgressive]

85. :crickets:

[MethuenProgressive]

62. 'hip black friend' was a snipe at the latte liberals swooning over BO, and you know it.

[MethuenProgressive]

86. :crickets:

[MethuenProgressive]

64. 'psychological gang bang' was from the President of NOW - and you know it.

[MethuenProgressive]

87. :crickets:

[MethuenProgressive]

65. 'cult' and 'shuck-and-jive' are as racist as 'cake walk', and you know it

[ProSense]

68. You are having a meltdown.

Take a break! n/t

[ContinentalOp]

70. Wow, you're even going to defend "shuck and jive"?

Unbelievable.

[MethuenProgressive]

73. Yeah, and "slum lord" is racist too...

Conti, 'shuck and jive' is as racist as 'cake walk', a term Obama has used several times.

[ContinentalOp]

93. Uh, a cake walk is a party where people dance.

Shuck and jive means putting on a good show for the white man so you can get away with being lazy behind his back. Maybe there's some racist connotation to "cake walk" that I'm missing? :shrug:

[Blarch]

104. Annoying.

[MethuenProgressive]

67. 'Hispanics"? He won 25% of the Hispanic vote in Nevada. What's your point?

[MethuenProgressive]

88. :crickets:

[MethuenProgressive]

69. "Somalian"? That pic was in a national newspaper - and silence until Drudge yanked BO's chain

[ProSense]

72. You're wrong, that wasn't a reference to Drudge, but to this:

Tubbs Jones: Barack Obama and the "Clothing of His Country"

[MethuenProgressive]

75. You know Stephanie Tubbs Jones is black, don't you?

Subject line of NonSense's next Thread:
"OH NO!! She said Somolian instead of Kenyan! What a RACIST Stephanie Tubbs Jones is!!1!1!!"

:eyes:

[ProSense]

77. "She said Somolian instead of Kenyan!" I hate to break this to you:

Obama is an American.

[MethuenProgressive]

79. You didn't know she was black? I'm not surprised.

You cut-and-paste slackivists seem to know next to nothing about that which you wail against.

[ProSense]

80. Is she black in the video I posted? n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

82. You didn't know that was her? I'm not surprised.

Slackivists seem suprised the sun goes up and down.

[MethuenProgressive]

71. "Obama meets with former terrorists" well.... he did, and you know it.

[MethuenProgressive]

89. :crickets:

[killbotfactory]

74. Obama made the Clinton's act this way because he's black.

They had no choice, you see. It's all Obama's fault.

[MethuenProgressive]

78. "How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary "

"How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary"
For those that really want to know the truth about who played the race card in this campaign then by all means please read the entire article. It is what we hrc supporters have known all along but we hope right thinking people will also read it and come away asking questions and above all, see obama as he really is...I do thank you.

excerpt:After several weeks of swooning, news reports are finally being filed about the gap between Senator Barack Obama's promises of a pure, soul-cleansing "new" politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign. But it remains to be seen whether the latest ploy by the Obama camp--over allegations about the circulation of a photograph of Obama in ceremonial Somali dress--will be exposed by the press as the manipulative illusion that it is.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4808142

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

90. "How Horseshit Gets Sold As Fact."

The working title.

[stevenleser]

76. Saying that is sexist, FYI

... :sarcasm:

[Metric System]

83. The imaginary black friend thing was from an unamed source in a British paper if I recall correctly.

To steal a line I've heard Obamaniacs use, how do we know the source wasn't really an Obama supporter?

[MethuenProgressive]

91. Well, now it's been exposed that *every* point in the OP was bogus.

While THIS remains TRUE:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4808142

"How Barack Obama played the race card and blamed Hillary"
For those that really want to know the truth about who played the race card in this campaign then by all means please read the entire article. It is what we hrc supporters have known all along but we hope right thinking people will also read it and come away asking questions and above all, see obama as he really is...I do thank you.

excerpt:After several weeks of swooning, news reports are finally being filed about the gap between Senator Barack Obama's promises of a pure, soul-cleansing "new" politics and the calculated, deeply dishonest conduct of his actually-existing campaign. But it remains to be seen whether the latest ploy by the Obama camp--over allegations about the circulation of a photograph of Obama in ceremonial Somali dress--will be exposed by the press as the manipulative illusion that it is.

[ellacott]

92. Actually they weren't

but you will continue to believe the opposite.

[ContinentalOp]

94. Gee, I guess spamming the thread with nonsense one-liners must make you right.

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[MethuenProgressive]

98. Better than wasting a thread on a bogus one-liner, Conti!

It only took one line each to dismiss each bogus charge of racism.
THINK and you'll never be the victim of Swiftboating, Conti.

[ProSense]

99. "It only took one line each to dismiss each bogus charge of racism." Where is that charge in the OP?

The disgustly vile "gang bang" comment by NOW's Marcia Pappas, who is campaigning for Hillary in Ohio, has nothing to do with race.

[ProSense]

101. Oops, edit: "disgustingly" vile! n/t

[ContinentalOp]

100. Thanks Meth!

[apocalypsehow]

102. Yep - and when they're not doing that they're busy running around screaming about "sexism."

n/t

[Califooyah Operative]

108. There's more too. I have a list somewhere. nt

[ProSense]

109. Hillary is proof that good Democrats

can run dirty campaigns. That's sad!

[loyalsister]

112. How is it that people are so uneducated ?

There is a difference between being racist and exploiting racism.
The Clintons and the Clinton camp have successfully exploited racism and stereotypes very subtley.

They have created a situation where there would be people who point out insensitivity, and defenders will rise up to argue against excess political correctness.

They have created a national conversation that surrounds Obama in which racist remarks would inevitibly be thrown.

I think it is clear that the surrogates knew what they were doing. With or without the approval of the campaign.
The unwillingness to acknowledge and value the response to what was considered insensitive by some people in the black community was something that I have found extremely disappointing.

Additionally, while it may have simply been thoughtless speaking on the part of Bill Clinton, I certainly am not willing to accept this unwillingsness to consider implications from the "first black president."

Politics is dirty, and people use what they have. Opportunistic, and despicable as it is, that does not mean that they are racist. Most people who are bothered by all of this don't believe that they are.

I personally believe that both Clinton's believe Hillary has the best solutions and they can justify dirty politics to themselves with good intentions. I give them some benefit of doubt on it. But it makes me very angry.

I cannot let it slide, because it matters. These are unhealthy arguments and the origin matters.

[ProSense]

114. Everything in the OP and the

The Kitchen Sink

[ProSense]

115. Hillaryis44 creator and possibly Hillary campaign's ties exposed

A campaign mystery solved: HillaryIs44

I wrote in December about a mysterious pro-Clinton, anti-Obama website called HillaryIs44, a site that floated sharply negative information about Obama long before the word "Rezko" passed the lips of Clinton and her campaign, and that has been the subject of many months of speculation among reporters, bloggers, and campaign staffers.

Now, two sources have identified the site's creator: A New York political activist named Alex Rodriguez, pictured above.

<...>

There's no public record linking Rodriguez to Clinton's campaign, and he's not part of her New York political universe. The one of my two sources who had more detailed knowledge of his connection to the site, and who spoke on the condition of anonymity, had no evidence linking him to the campaign.

However, there's some suggestion that some close to the campaign were at least aware of his existence.

When I learned of his identity, I emailed Tracy Sefl, a Clinton consultant who is perhaps best known as the campaign's liaison to Drudge, and whom reporters and insiders have long speculated -- without evidence -- was behind the site. She was amused to learn that I'd finally linked someone to the site.

"I know very little about this. But I have been tremendously flattered by your opinion of my Web skills and assumptions about my free time," she emailed.

But she did seem, at least, to know Rodriguez's name.

I'd asked her if she knew "Alex." She then made a joke about the Yankee third baseman, also named Alex Rodriguez. But I hadn't supplied the full name of subject of my story, so I asked how she knew his last name.

"I don't know him. I just heard his name somewhere," she said, denying again any role in the site. "I haven't sent this person anything, ever."

[ProSense]

116. "a Clinton consultant who is perhaps best known as the campaign's liaison to Drudge" n/t

[ProSense]

117. All this and endorsing McCain! n/t

[ProSense]

118. ‘NAFTA-gate’ story takes unexpected turn

‘NAFTA-gate’ story takes unexpected turn

Posted March 6th, 2008 at 9:15 am

Just when I thought I’d gotten a handle on the so-called “NAFTA-gate” story, it takes an unexpected turn.

Some Canadian news outlets reported last week that Barack Obama’s campaign had reached out to Canadian officials, telling them to effectively ignore Obama’s concerns about NAFTA, claiming the rhetoric was just political posturing. Those reports turned out to be false. Canadian news also noted that Obama aides had contacted the Canadian ambassador with the same message. That turned out to be false, too. Both Hillary Clinton and John McCain read almost identical talking points, but much of the accusations proved to be unfounded. Nevertheless, given the attention and scrutiny, the largely controversy had a fairly significant impact in Tuesday’s primaries.

Now, a new report out of Toronto suggests the original story may have left out some important details.

If the Prime Minister is seeking the first link in the chain of events that has rocked the U.S. presidential race, he need look no further than his chief of staff, Ian Brodie, The Canadian Press has learned.

A candid comment to journalists from CTV News by Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s most senior political staffer during the hurly-burly of a budget lock-up provided the initial spark in what the American media are now calling NAFTAgate.

Mr. Harper announced Wednesday that he has asked an internal security team to begin finding the source of a document leak that he characterized as being “blatantly unfair” to Senator Barack Obama.

OK, so the chief of staff of Canada’s conservative Prime Minister decided he wanted to meddle in the Democratic Party’s primary process. Clearly, that’s wildly inappropriate.

But the odd twist is that it may have been Clinton who reassured Canadians about NAFTA.

<...>

So, let me get this straight. If this report is right, the Clinton campaign gave assurances to the Canadians not to worry about her rhetoric on NAFTA. The Clinton campaign then spent a week hammering Obama on alleged assurances to Canadians about his rhetoric on NAFTA?

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[ThatBozGuy]

119. ..

..

[ProSense]

120. I demand

Hillary fire her entire staff and drop out!

[ProSense]

121. BILL: HILLARY-OBAMA TICKET 'UNSTOPPABLE'

BILL: HILLARY-OBAMA TICKET 'UNSTOPPABLE'

PASS CHRISTIAN, MS -- Bill Clinton told voters on the Gulf Coast yesterday that a Clinton-Obama ticket would be an "unstoppable force" in the general election, and that his wife is certainly considering it.

All three remaining White House hopefuls were off the trail yesterday, so the former president couldn't help but be back in the spotlight. On top of that, Clinton decided to take questions for the first time in more than a month, and perhaps not surprisingly, a voter asked this question -- would the two Democratic candidates join forces as a ticket.

"I never talk to her about this, because I think if you ever look past the next election you might not get past it," Clinton cautioned. But he pointed to his wife's recent comments on the matter, saying he believed she "was very open" to the idea. "I think she answered explicitly yes yesterday," he said. "I heard he also said no, but I think she said yes."

Clinton said that Hillary believes that if there was a way to "unite the energy and the new people" that Barack Obama has attracted with the appeal he said his wife has shown in "small town and rural America, they'd "be hard to beat."

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Bill, you're an arrogant joker!

[ProSense]

122. Ferraro: Obama is lucky he's black

Ferraro: Obama is lucky he's black

by kos
Mon Mar 10, 2008 at 01:47:44 PM PDT

More classiness, from one of Clinton's top surrogates, Geraldine Ferraro.

If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept.

Ferraro isn't some unknown lower-level or obscure advisor, but one of her top fundraisers, member of Clinton's finance committee, and a former Democratic vice presidential nominee.

[kwenu]

129. So when will Ferraro be FIRED!!!!!!!!!

[ProSense]

130. She should be fired! n/t

[David Zephyr]

124. Poor John McCain and the GOP: Hillary has used up all their tricks. LOL!

I imagine everytime the Clintons attack Barack personally that there is a collective "Shit, there she goes again. We won't have anything to swiftboat him with if she keeps stealing our lies."

[cooolandrew]

128. ...

[ProSense]

131. Axelrod: Clinton campaign has "insidious pattern" on race

March 11, 2008

Axelrod: Clinton campaign has "insidious pattern" on race

The Obama campaign made the clearest allegations yet that the Clinton campaign is playing the race card in a conference call today with reporters.

Obama's chief strategist, David Axelrod, grouped former Rep. Geraldine Ferraro's suggestion that Obama owes some part of his success to the fact that he's black with other gaffes by Clinton backers Robert Johnson and Bill Shaheen, and with Clinton's "own inexplicable unwillingness" to flatly deny that Obama is a Muslim in a "60 Minutes" interview.

"All this is part of an insidious pattern that needs to be addressed," he said.

Axelrod asked "whether she's trying to send a signal to her supporters that anything goes."

Axelrod called on Clinton to drop Ferraro from her finance committee.

"When you wink and nod at offensive statements you're really sending a signal to your supporters that anything goes," he said.

He also responded to a question about Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson, who he described as a friend.

"He has assumed a kind of junkyard dog role in this campaign," he said.

[ProSense]

132. Clinton responds on "insidious pattern"

March 11, 2008

Clinton responds on "insidious pattern"

Speaking to local television in Pennsylvania, Clinton responded to Obama adviser David Axelrod's contention that her campaign had engaged in an "insidious pattern" of inappropriate racial and other remarks.

"I dont agree with that, and I think its important that we try to stay focused on issues that matter to the American people," she said. "And both of us have had supporters and staff members who've gone over the line and we have to rein them in and try to keep this on the issues. There are big differences between us on the issues - lets stay focused on that."

[Oilwellian]

133. ROFL...

Isn't that almost word for word what Obama's been saying everytime Clinton throws a stink bomb?

I wanted you to know, I've collected the audio and video of a lot of the things you've listed and am putting a video together of the entire chain of events. It's quite stunning to see.

[ProSense]

134. It gets more absurd. Ferraro basically says Obama is an affirmative action candidate, then Hillary's

campaign accuses Obama of playing the race card:

March 11, 2008

Williams pushes back on Ferraro

Clinton campaign manager Maggie Williams has a statement out quoting Obama's Las Vegas exchange with Tim Russert (below), in which he distanced himself from allegations the Clinton campaign had played the race card.

We agreed then. We agree today. Supporters from both campaigns will get overzealous. Senator Clinton today reiterated that when asked about Geraldine Ferraro’s recent comments:

“I do not agree with that and you know it’s regrettable that any of our supporters on both sides say things that veer off into the personal. We ought to keep this focused on the issues. That’s what this campaign should be about.

Senator Obama’s campaign staff seems to have forgotten his pledge. We have not. And, we reject these false, personal and politically calculated attacks on the eve of a primary. This campaign should be about the leadership we need for a better future and these attacks serve only to divide the Democratic Party and the American people.

In other words, Clinton now seems to be accusing Obama of playing the race card card.

Hillary's campaign is now responding to incidents in typical Bush fashion.

[ProSense]

135. Does anyone doubt that the VP offer was just another attempt to belittle Obama? n/t