Message from Obama Cult Member 967,894

[Obamaman2008]

I am a member of the so called Obama cult, as the members of the traditional political establishment prefer to refer to us. So why am I a follower of Obama, what makes me devote myself, and my mind to him? Where did we come from? Why are we in mass following him? Simply put, we are the tired and oppressed people of divisive hateful politics coming to voice our distress.

We are the ones that have been the victims of the strangle hold of the Bush/Clinton era for the last 28 years. We are the ignored and excluded. Most of us have never known or struggle to recall a time as an adult free of a Bush or Clinton. We never saw a ballot without either or both branded names somewhere in the ballot. We never were asked, “Is this what you want?” Now we are saying “No, it is not.”

We are saying “no more” to oppressive governments.
We are saying “no more” to oppressive oil prices
We are saying “no more” to oppressive medical costs
We are saying “no more” to lowering of real wages
We are saying “no more” to greed
We are saying “no more” to selling out to lobbyists
We are saying “no more” to pointless wars

We are saying no more of the divisive bitter polarizing politics that has torn this nation apart and has reached a height of preventing us from attending to the immediate needs of this country and its people. We are saying no more to dividing us into two halves.

We are not two halves of a nation. Nor do you tolerate leaders that govern from the middle of one half. We are one nation, one people, with one cause. We need to come together to solve the mounting problems this nation and the world faces. The US needs to be a nation of strength and aid in the world, not one of division and war.

We are calling on a new chapter of politics and an end to the old one. The era of winning by dividing and keeping power by selling out is coming to a close. We cannot polarize ourselves to success and solutions. We must move on at some point, and that point is now. We must change to save ourselves and began to solve our nation’s problems. Our current political climate is letting our health care, our schools, and financial future, and our internal structure go ignored, and with it the people of this great nation.

We don’t demand a messiah. We don’t ask for a leader that can walk on water. We aren’t expecting someone that is greater than others. We aren’t even requiring someone have done anything particularly great or significant.

What we are asking for is a leader who is not entrenched in divisive politics and is an minimally upright citizen, someone who is like us; a leader who can relate to us, a person who feels what we feel and thinks like we think, a leader that is not perfect, but simple, a leader whose best friends are not lobbyists, felons or men that own businesses with fortunes larger than third world countries. We want a leader who keeps their promises to their spouse, their friends, and their countrymen. We want a leader who does not sell himself, his soul, and his nation to lobbyists, CEOs, foreigners, and oil profiteers for untold profit. We want a leader, that can is not brewed and born in Washington politics.

We don’t care the color of his skin, or the gender of a leader, or the faith of the person. These are the concerns of the Bush/Clinton generations, as Integration, the Great Depression, Slavery, and the Indian Question were of other generations. We instead know this nation is great, fair, and just to ourselves, and to other nations around the world. We are not ignorant of the world, but we still believe in hope, and share faith that there are reasonable solutions without hate and division as the core proposal. But we also know it cannot achieve that greatness by clinging to ways other current politics. We want, we need, we must have change.


Bush and Clinton are the symbols of the 20th century. They are the past, linked with Reagan, Carter, Ford, and Nixon. Obama is the symbol of politics of the 21st century. He is the new way. He is the right man, in the right place, at the right time. He is the future of this country. The era of Bush and Clinton, is an era in error. It is an era marred in hateful bitter destructively centered politics, where decisions are based on careers and profit, not solutions for a better America.

Obama is the vehicle we are using to drive into the 21st century. People that wish not to use that vehicle will be stuck in the 20th century with its divisive negativity. Those that choose to stand in its way will get run over. But those that use this vehicle will be with us when we move forward and Change. Obama symbolizes that Change.

[lligrd]

1. Now There Is A Cult I Am Proud To Be A Member Of

Nice post!

[Obamaman2008]

2. Thank you cult member 890435

[DUyellow]

14. member 002316

[jackson_dem]

3. A series of swips at the Clintons disguised as a positive rallying cry for Obamites

--We never saw a ballot without either or both branded names somewhere in the ballot. We never were asked, “Is this what you want?”--

People were. It's called elections.

--We are saying “no more” to oppressive governments.--

Implication: Bill Clinton was oppressive. :eyes:

--We are saying “no more” to oppressive oil prices--

Um, do you know how low oil prices were under Clinton?

--We are saying “no more” to oppressive medical costs--

By supporting the candidate who will have higher medical costs because his plan won't put everyone into the system? Weird logic.

--We are saying “no more” to lowering of real wages--

Implication: real wages fell under Clinton. On the contrary, they rose during the Clintin years after falling consistently since the 60's.

--We are saying “no more” to greed--

Implication: The Clinton years were years of greed. That makes no sense. I'll put Clinton's economic record up against Obama's anyday...

--We are saying “no more” to selling out to lobbyists--

Implication: the Clintons sell out to lobbyists. Exelon anyone? How about the drug industry shilling in Illinois?

--We are saying no more of the divisive bitter polarizing politics that has torn this nation apart and has reached a height of preventing us from attending to the immediate needs of this country and its people. We are saying no more to dividing us into two halves.--

Bill Clinton had an approval rating of 65% when he left office. That is as high as you can go in peacetime in the real world. Will Obama have a 95% rating? :rofl:

Yes, we have always had two parties that clash (and were far more fierce earlier in our history). Obama is going to somehow unify the parties? How?

--We are not two halves of a nation.--

We have been ever since the Federalist and Democratic-Republican parties were formed...Actually you can even go back to the divide between patriots and loyalists during the revolution...

--Nor do you tolerate leaders that govern from the middle of one half.--

Then why are you supporting Obama who is as "middle" (or progressive depending on your view) as Hillary?

--We are calling on a new chapter of politics and an end to the old one. The era of winning by dividing and keeping power by selling out is coming to a close.--

The chapter that began in the 1790's will magically come to a close if we click or heels and chant "hope and change!" a few times?

--What we are asking for is a leader who is not entrenched in divisive politics--

George Washington died a long time ago.

--s an minimally upright citizen, someone who is like us; a leader who can relate to us, a person who feels what we feel and thinks like we think, a leader that is not perfect, but simple, a leader whose best friends are not lobbyists, felons or men that own businesses with fortunes larger than third world countries. We want a leader who keeps their promises to their spouse, their friends, and their countrymen. We want a leader who does not sell himself, his soul, and his nation to lobbyists, CEOs, foreigners, and oil profiteers for untold profit. We want a leader, that can is not brewed and born in Washington politics.--

Nothing but a litany of attacks on Hillary.

--We don’t care the color of his skin, or the gender of a leader, or the faith of the person. These are the concerns of the Bush/Clinton generations, as Integration, the Great Depression, Slavery, and the Indian Question were of other generations.--

Gender and color matter at the polls even in the new Obamite utopia. Ask John Edwards. Faith matters. Ask Mitt ROmney.

--The era of Bush and Clinton, is an era in error. It is an era marred in hateful bitter destructively centered politics, where decisions are based on careers and profit, not solutions for a better America.--

The Clinton years were among the best America has ever had. As to there being political wars during that time, that was addressed earlier. That has been the case since the 1790's. How is St. Obama the messiah going to change that?

[Obamaman2008]

6. You are not a follower of Obama, so of course you do not agree

you believe that entire problem with politics is not with Clintons at all, but soley with Bush. I think it is mostly Bush, but Clintons have issues too. they support Nafta, Don't Ask, Don't Tell, and partial birth abortion. They also pardon many felons before leaving office, and opposed banning landmines that have devasted families and poor nations.

Obama isn't perfect, but a far cry.

I understand you don't agree, and either would anyone else locked up on the side of the either the Bushs or the Clintons.

Clinton had a 65% approval rating, on running the country. He only had a 43% approval rating as person. Most of the 65% was a 80% in places like California, and low 40% approval in red states.

You like the Clintons. In contrast to Bush, he is much better. But it is still a time of the past. Not the future. It is time to move past the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton mentality.

[jackson_dem]

8. I understand the nature and history of our politics

It isn't Clinton. It isn't Bush. It is natural and has been so since the 1790's. How is Obama going to change that? The only way is to merge the two parties...we had this brief utopia during the Monroe years when the Federalists died off. As soon as the Democratic-Republicans split into the Democrats of Jackson and National Republicans of John Q. Adams/Clay (which evolved into the Whigs which died off in the 1850's and quickly were replaced by the GOP) in the 1820's it began an uninterrupted timeline of division, polarizing and partisanship.

So what? The same applies to anyone. Obama is unlikely to reach 65% and even if he does he will have low ratings in red states too.

I don't care about labels such as past and future. I care about what they intend to do. One reason Obama is accused of running a campaign light on substance is that much his argument is based on him not being named Clinton rather than policy.

[Obamaman2008]

11. It is Clinton, it is Bush

They are the ones doing it today. Jefferson and Aaron Burr are dead.

We can, and there are periods of time when we did not engage in such divisive political destruction. How Obama will do it is the same way you, me, and every other American problem solves problems we have with members of our community.

[Egnever]

4. well said

:hi:

[texas_indy]

5. Obamatron Cult Member 9300,474.1 reporting sir. Affirmation is acknowledged

for sending of original message.

We are mission authorized and green lighted!

Mission Goal: President Obama for 2009 and beyond!!


GOBAMA!

Texas is Obama country!

[Obamaman2008]

7. Ten Four, 9300,474 :smile:

[ClayZ]

9. Yeah! K and R

[NMMatt]

10. Nice: I'm an OG cult member - number 34,562 who signed up in 2004 :P

[Robert Oak]

12. symbols

well, ya get what ya pay for.

Symbols are not the real deal people. Get deprogrammed and read the actual policy positions.

We love you Jodie, we love you Jodie...

[Steely_Dan]

13. Hey. Good Luck With That n/t

[Bluebear]

15. We are saying "no more" to playing Christians against gays for votes! Oh . . .

never mind...

[cboy4]

16. Yup. Their side's reality show:

[Voice for Peace]

17. good line

"Obama is the vehicle we are using to drive into the 21st century."

[TexasObserver]

18. Si.

[Skwmom]

19. Excellent post!

[Perry Logan]

20. And if we use a few Republican smears to do it, what's the harm, right?

[Tarheel_Dem]

21. thanks for that inspiring post......n/t