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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:53 PM Original message |
If Hillary is running such a bad campaign, why is it so close? |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
1. With all her connections, she should be miles ahead of Obama |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
2. shhhhhhhhhhhh |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. Recall that she was ahead by 20-30 Points across the country back in Janary ... She is getting... |
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tyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
4. He's |
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wndycty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. Is it really close? She lost the 11 races. . . |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's close because she's running such a bad campaign. |
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washingdem (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. Establishment power. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
8. When you blow a 30 point lead, and lose 11 in a row, and flatline while your opponent gains... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
9. it isn't close. She's behind by about 150 delegates. The Media pads her numbers by including |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
10. Yes, good point. 10 million + actually wanted to vote for her, and did. :) |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #10 |
23. 10,829,006 |
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dansolo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
11. She was given a 60 yard head start in a 100 yard dash |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Bingo. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:57 PM Original message |
What is close? |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
12. She needs to win over 60% just to catch up |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
34. 60% of DELEGATES, not votes. |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
13. Close?!? ROFLMAO |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:58 PM Response to Original message |
14. Well if it really was a "bad" campaign, she would be out months ago. right? |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. If Obama's campaign was as bad as Hillary's, he wouldn't have made it past IA. |
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thevoiceofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. The odds in her favor were a gagillion to one |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. polls and pundits |
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. This line only works if they both started the race at the same level |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
18. I will put it like this. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Because she started, by virtue of name recognition and connections, with a 30-point lead, |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. If you think going from a 30% lead everywhere to where she is now is "good" |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. correct. She's only 315,000 behind in the popular vote, out of about 24 million votes cast |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. You're including MI and FL |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. those are actual votes cast. I know the Obama campaign doesn't respect the will of those voters |
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quantass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. It is nearly impossible for her to catch up... |
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DUyellow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
24. 0 - 11 |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
26. Ummm....it's not. And she's losing ground each day. |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. She is losing by an average of close to 20 points in the last 11 contests. |
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Kaylee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
29. Hillary should've left Obama in the dust..... |
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ecdab (834 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
39. I would prefer to give Obama credit |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
30. Her earlier wins were more about name recognition, and her lead held because of superdelegates. |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. It isn't close, she can't possibly catch up in elected delegates. Your logic is flawed |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
32. Because she was up by as much as 30 points, has name recognition, |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. Because she was soooo far ahead. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Well why wasn't she out after California or earlier then? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Bad |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I got lost once we hit Obamaunits |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yeah, same here |
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texas_indy (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Yea, I thought we were Obamatrons. This is getting so confusing!! LOL (nt) |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. THe fact that it is not only close |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. She was the front runner since '04 and presumed nominee it's to Obama's credit |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
45. Former President Bill Clinton |
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TSIAS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
46. Are you being intentionally obtuse? |
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