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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:05 PM
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A lesson in history: Hillary's ATTACK mailers!!! and robocalls.
1. This is one where Hillary attacks Obama using Republican fear mongering on taxes. Obama has said that as a possible solution to the SS problem. Of course the mailer says it will be a trillion dollar tax increase on working Americans. That leave the impression of the middle class, but in reality Obama has said that if we raise the SS cap, that he would make sure there is a donut protecting "hard working families." Something along the line of only people earning more than 200,000 would have to pay more. Hmm... sounds kinda... progressive to me. Of course Hillary leaves out the details in the hope of scaring up votes.

On Eve Of Primary, Hillary Drops Negative Mailer Hitting Obama On Taxes

here in New Hampshire http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/on_eve_of_primary_hillary_drops_negative_mailer_hitting_obama_on_taxes.php
and here in Nevada http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/A_tax_attack.html


2. You may ask "what if right wing talking points on SS don't work?" Well, AFSCME on Hillary's behalf sent out this wonderful mailer in an attempt to scare voters into voting for Hillary.

"A Prime Minister is on the phone: They've lost a warhead," says the fictional memo on the front of the mailing.

The solution?

"Send in the right woman for the job."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/ProHillary_mail_Be_very_afraid.html

This disgusting tactic lead to some members of AFCSME to right this letter. Where they say they are "shocked and appalled" at the deceptive tactics.

http://thepage.time.com/letter-to-afscme-president-mcentee/


3. And another mailer attacking Obama on "possibly" raising the cap on SS for those over 200,000.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/02/a_clinton_mailer_in_arizona.php


4. If this still didn't seem enough for the Hillary campaign. They could always LIE by implying that Obama isn't pro-choice.

Barrack Obama. Unwilling to take a stand on a woman's right to choose.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/01/hillary_mailer_hits_obama_on_abortion.php

Only problem is that... Obama voted present on those few Illinois state senate issues because Planned Parenthood asked him to vote present as part of Planned Parenthood's strategy. Ohh... and Obama has a 100% rating from Planned Parenthood and NARAL. More on this here:

http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2007/12/04/about-those-present-votes/


5. Just to mix it up here is another Hillary attack on Obama's SS this time a robocall that also wrongly accuses him of wanting to cut benefits. (Which, falls under his statements that everything is on the table. Even though he said it isn't a serious consideration.)

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/az_robocall_hit.html

6. We all know that Hillary said MI (and thought the same logic fl) "doesn't count for anything" and now she says it should count based on Obama running national ads. Remember all the faux outrage about Obama advertising in FL by default. Well, Hillary did have her "supporters" run a robocall and GOTV operation. And while this robocall isn't a direct attack on Obama, it does show the absurdity of that big spectacle Hillary's campaign made of FL based on Obama running ads nationally on CNN and MSNBC.

http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/02/az_robocall_hit.html

7. In SC Hillary's campaign didn't even try to spin a lie. They just flat out lied. This time claiming that Obama would "dismantle the minimum wage."

here:http://www.observer.com/2008/obama-creates-south-carolina-truth-squad
and here: http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2008/01/daschles_cautio.html

8. I guess lying about Obama's policies wasn't enough. Hillary's campaign apparently decided that to appeal to religious bigots and racists. This robocall seemed to serve no purpose with the exception of emphasizing Obama's middle name of Hussein, mentioning it 4 times. I like the last line of "You just can't take a CHANCEHUSSEIN Obama." (Clinton loyalists will be quick to say that "there is nothing wrong with his middle name" of course that is bullshit.. These candidates have experts to poor over EVERY single word to make sure the word frames give the correct impression at all times. Also, how many robocalls will a campaign put out that say the name of the opposing candidate 4 times)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Robocall_trashes_Barack_Hussein_Obama.html

9. Of course here is where we get the hypocritical BS from Hillary herself. She says that Obama attacked her health care plan unfairly. (I personally think there is nothing wrong with criticizing someone else's positions.) Hillary of course forgets that she has been attacking Obama's health care plan too. This attack is over the lack of a mandate. Hillary shows a diverse group of people and the mailer asks "Which of these people doesn't deserve health care?". Of course that is misleading. Hillary's attack is that Obama's health care plan will prevent 15 million people from getting health care, but that doesn't match up with what the difference is. Hillary's logic is that 15 million people won't choose to get insured... that is a big difference from people being "left" out of the plan(as she is implying.)

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/17/kennedy-calls-clinton-attacks-fearmongering/


Well, I am tired of looking these things up. Feel free to post any that I missed and I will try to add them in.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:08 PM
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1. Thanks for doing that.
I don't see how HRC can get so incensed.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:09 PM
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3. Too bad the media nor the average voter won't do a little
research on this topic. Hillary may when this news cycle.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:13 PM
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5. Then we gotta be the media. Thanks.
NGU.


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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:09 PM
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2. Raising the cap on earnings subject to FICA is a GOOD policy.
Especially if it is combined with setting a floor.

"There is no crisis" in social security that would justify drastic measures (like privatization that Bush wants to do) but there ** IS ** an impending problem and I am glad that Obama recognizes it and is willing to propose something that might not be popular with everyone.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:13 PM
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4. Will you please send this out to media outlets? Maybe they'll start reporting it.
Maybe!
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:15 PM
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6. K&R
It was the Hillary people that tried to spread the lie that Obama had been a crack dealer, right on TV. It was Wolfson, and he was called on it by Axelrod right then and there on the Tweety show.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:16 PM
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7. This is my favorite:

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail

A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out."

"Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail.
The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:19 PM
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9. ahh... I forgot all about the campaign staff forwarding the
muslim smear email. Thanks.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:20 PM
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10. I guess this kind of stuff...
Edited on Sat Feb-23-08 06:21 PM by stillcool47
is where all the money went...
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:23 PM
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12. That and suites at the Bellagio Luxury Hotel. Give Wolfson more money, folks!
:eyes:

NGU.


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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:16 PM
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8. Thank you for sharing this.




Peace:thumbsup:
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yourguide Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:21 PM
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11. K&R
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cottonseed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 06:28 PM
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13. She's poking a stick in a beehive.
Same with her plagiarism/xerox debacle. Accuse, oppo-research begins, she's stung. Not good strategery.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:39 PM
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17. After the debate I thought she was going to play nice....
I thought she had seen the writing on the wall. Ohh well...
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:00 PM
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14. K & R
:thumbsup:
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 07:03 PM
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15. kick. nt
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:22 PM
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16. self kick... nt
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Unbowed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:19 AM
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18. Shame on that Obama....he must have sent those out and blamed poor Hillary.
:rofl:

Good Gawd, she must think the American people are really stupid. Doesn't think think people are smart enough to look this stuff up?

"Ready from DAY ONE..." That is rapidly turning into a very, frightening thought.
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 01:23 AM
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19. Doesn't count.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 09:56 PM
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21. huh? n/t
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dragonlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-24-08 02:18 PM
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20. We got the Social Security robocall here in Wisconsin
I believe the speaker said that Obama was for privitizing Social Security. I have never heard that he said that and don't believe he supports it.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-25-08 11:26 PM
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22. He in fact does not support privitizing SS. nt
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