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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:21 PM Original message |
Hillary Is Flailing Around In Complete Desperation Today. What A Mess |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Kind of sad really |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. What is amazing is that her supporters don't even know that it |
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jlpohio69 (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #3 |
17. Why do you hate democracy? |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Reply #17 |
31. The math doesn't lie. |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
108. Let them both do what they are going to do. God. I really hate this |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
36. And this is their new BULLSHIT attack |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Yep--now they're desperate for a second chance. They were more than happy |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
112. Yeah, I know...bullshit 'till the last |
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Zachstar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. 2 weeks could mean utter ruin for Clinton's 2012 chances and even her future seats. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
40. He doesn't hate democracy. He hates WOMEN |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #17 |
96. I am fine let her go on and on |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
127. I don't want Hillary to concede now, but a little dignity would be nice. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #17 |
130. The media has been warning us for weeks now that super delegates... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. I think it's really sad. |
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JimGinPA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. Desperation Rears It's Ugly Head nt |
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Unsane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
4. She is now actively trying to hurt Democrats' chances in November. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Immediately. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
35. Of course she is. How else will she get to run in 2012? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
5. I can't tell just yet |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I swing between the two |
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ZinZen (599 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
101. Well, her behavior rules out going out with any class. |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I'm feeling a mixture of shock, anger, and pity right now |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
45. You're loving it -- admit it. |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. You didnt expect her to go down without trying to take everyone with her... |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. No kidding. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #15 |
119. I want a convention... I want a party... I want it NOW! |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #119 |
123. Thanks for the good laugh |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. I let myself hope that she'd act with her career, party, and nation in mind, |
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bunnies (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. Its the Politics of Party Destruction. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #60 |
91. Well, if Barack wins in November, that will severely hurt her '12 chances. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #91 |
120. That's what she said about Kerry (behind the scenes they were at war over the convention) |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #8 |
63. Exactly. "If I can't have it, NOBODY CAN", smaks of childish immature personality, not to |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
9. So proud to share the stage with Barack, LIES, My God, I believed her for almost 36 hours |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. .. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. Total stagecraft. 100%. She's a scary lady. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #9 |
82. "Honored" doesn't mean "proud". She said she was "honored" to be there. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. I saw that earlier on the news. She's really desperate, and it is pathetic. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
12. Just like her supporters here on DU.... death throes..... |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. If you are watching C-Span at the Smiley Corporate Show...... |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. agreed |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. Also...I bet she tries to torpedo Barack during the conference...but she better |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:41 PM Original message |
She will, and I can't wait. It will go over like her attack in the debate did. Buh bye hillary. |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #13 |
53. Did you see the morning session? |
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NDambi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
69. I missed the morning session..watching the afternoon session now... |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #69 |
124. Well, thanks for the interesting |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. I actually not worried about these attacks..it makes her |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. That's very true. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. here is the story that will kill her about "mailers"... |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
110. Thanks, handn't seen that! |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
114. Yeah, I bought that bullshit. |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
20. The Republicans at the office were Saying the Same Thing |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It's obvious to anyone who isn't in her camp. And her camp has no idea |
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BeatleBoot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
50. Did he get 2,025 ? Did I miss something? |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
83. No matter what the subject of the thread |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #83 |
121. If Obama is smart he will reach out to these "Obamicans" the way Reagan did to "Reagan Dems"... |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
21. She's honestly upset. She doesn't understand what's happening, and so she doesn't |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. It would be best for her now, seeing the writing on the wall, |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
25. I've been out; what did I miss? Can anyone clue me in? nt |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Hillary held a press conference to literally scream about two Obama flyers |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. Ruh roh. Thanks! nt |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #25 |
62. She had a Cincinnati meltdown freak-out |
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pansypoo53219 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
27. dean scream |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
28. "I'm MELTING... melltiiing... melllltiiiing...." |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. Ha, you're forgiven |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
65. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA nt |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #28 |
122. Not to throw cold water on your enthusiasm |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
29. She's releasing her inner Ayn Rand |
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Tess99 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
30. I thought her persona for this week would be soft and gentle. |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. That whole "moment" was a carefully-crafted New Hampshire, Lifetime for Women, |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #38 |
67. Who fell for it? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Oh, sorry if I wasn't clear--I meant her closing remarks at the TX debate. |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Oh, right. |
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Madam Mossfern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. hahahaha |
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bigtree (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
37. I see it got under your skin |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
46. No, I think this got under Hillary's skin: |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. um, no. I am vascillating between feeling sorry for her |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
68. I'm actually laughing my ass off. She is pathetic! LOL |
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CatnHat (669 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
42. Desperation |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. Even if your Obama accusation is true |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
58. Well, problem is, there is not a single lie in those flyers.... |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
61. one fish, two fish... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:48 PM Response to Reply #61 |
73. Yes, I am getting that familiar Dr. Seuss vibe as well. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. Hopefully she'll be done by March 4th. Then we'll be able to turn the page |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I love your sig pic |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
48. It's a desperate stunt, and being in Cincinnati, I'm especially embarrassed... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
51. Is there a link to a clip? |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
52. You looks pathetic out there |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
54. You're making shit up to pretend to be outraged over - as usual. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
66. I've posted many positive things about Obama and others |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #54 |
90. These personal attacks aren't productive |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:00 PM Response to Reply #90 |
103. The ones in the OP? No, personal attacks against primary candidates are allowed. |
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madaboutharry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. I am not talking about the candidates, |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #54 |
93. I'm pretty sure that Cali has posted more positive things about Clinton than you have. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #93 |
95. I can guarantee it. MP is nothing but hate wrapped up in a misleading nic. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
56. I don't know which is a worse spectacle, |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
70. I used to open most of your posts. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. I do have the internet. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
72. Do you still pretend to be a voice of moderation and reason, cali? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. There's no bile her. Just an observation that's pretty commonly |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #75 |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. no, dear. by people all over the country who are watching |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #81 |
106. kol-aid in hand? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
77. Remember when Bush the Elder lost it and refered to Clinton and Gore as bozos? |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Bob Dole's "Stop Lying About My Record!" |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. That was a funny one. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:51 PM Response to Original message |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. I see the old Tourette's is acting up again... |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
80. I'm not sure she or anyone in her camp knows how desperate it made her look imo. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
85. It makes me wonder when Gore, Edwards, or Dean will say enough is enough |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:12 PM Original message |
Today is the day to make the calls. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
89. Agreed. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
87. Just saw the clip on CNN |
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ORDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. Just looked at the vid. Well, ... that was embarrassing, ... |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
88. OMG! I just heard what she said! |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
92. Hillary's press conference: "Full of sound and fury signifying nothing" |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:33 PM Response to Original message |
94. Humphrey Bogart didn't come apart that badly in The Caine Mutiny!! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. Someone should get her some worry balls. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:58 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Misogyny! Misogyny! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
104. Sometimes a ball is a ball and not a man's testicle. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:38 AM Response to Reply #104 |
125. Sometimes! |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. He was referring to the classic last scene in the Caine Mutiny |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I should have deployed the sarcasm tag, I guess... |
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TheDoorbellRang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. Ah! These days in GD:P, one never knows for sure |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
98. Hillary is Bush-lite as all DLC'ers are |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
105. She's playing the Fear Card? |
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CatWoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
107. you know, Cali |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #107 |
133. sorry, that's just lame lashing out on your part |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:10 PM Response to Original message |
111. Heavens to Betsy!! |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
113. Yup. |
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BringBigDogBack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
117. I agree, cali. |
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Elidor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
126. The dream of a lifetime dies hard |
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GumboYaYa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:13 AM Response to Original message |
128. It is really disgusting. The Clintons can"t leave soon enough! |
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apocalypsehow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
129. Yep! K & R. n/t |
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PerfectSage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
131. Well... ...it's not easy to give up on your dream. |
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Hardrada (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-24-08 02:18 AM Response to Reply #131 |
132. No, the biggest mistake she made was voting for the IWR |
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