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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:44 PM Original message |
Want to help the Clinton campaign pay thier PAST DUE bills? Don't give them the $$ pay these vendors |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. oh my, |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. They paid their friends n/t |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Bullshit, Anne Lewis is on the list to be paid. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. There's a zero behind her name |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
33. I'm sure she'll make sure to pay off her own loan, with interest. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Yep, her contributors are now paying her (with interest!) n/t |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. These consultants got paid >>> |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
2. It takes winning campaigns YEARS to pay their campaign debts. Standard. nt |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. IIRC Clark's campaign had debt for a couple of years |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Winning campaigns don't pay their taxes? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
19. really? provide some links that that's true. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. I worked in polling for prez. campaigns that took YEARS. The one exception was Bush-Cheney 2000. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Then why does Obama's campaign |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Actually Obama's debt is $1.1 million |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Thanks, Debi |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. But not - you are spot on |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. You can check for yourself |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. None of those folks went in front of the media and said |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. But most pollesters aren't college students who are living paycheck to paycheck |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 PM Original message |
How long does it take the LOSING campaigns to pay? |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow, that's some list. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. What happens to us when we don't pay our electric bill? our phone bill? |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
6. How the hell can they owe Big Insurance, Aetna Healthcare, $213,000? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. AND Blue Cross Blue Shield over $200,000? n/t |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. If it was health insurance for campaign staffers, is Big Insurance |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Yep, the same if I don't pay my taxes, electric bill, for my groceries |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. probably liability for campaign headquarters.. protection from accidents, real or perpetrated |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. Blue Cross Blue Shield is healthcare n/t |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Here's what I don't get--why don't these vendors INSIST on cash up front? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. Couldn't Penn buy the ad time and tack his commission on to the debt? |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Yes--absolutely. But bottom line someone paid for the space and time up front! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. I think Penn and Grunwald will be paid eventually |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Totally agree--and that's why in the future they need to adopt a "cash up front" rule, too! |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. "Sale & Pepe Fine Foods & Gourmet Pizza $2,492.63" |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. This caterer was paid AFTER filing a small claims suit against the campaign |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
46. Thanks. The folly would be laughable if it wasn't so scary. |
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Saturday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
13. Or perhaps you could help Obama out by paying.... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Obama owes $1.1 million in debts - here's the list |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. Edited: What's the total on Clinton's campaign's debts? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Through January 31st - $7.6 million + the $5 million loan (with interest) |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
14. Hillary... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #14 |
26. Kind of feels familiar doesn't it? n/t |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Familiar? You bet! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I guess they each have different ways of screwing the voters n/t |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. You said it, not me. This is all about the Clenis, isn't it? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. This is about Hillary Cliton telling lies to the media and America |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. Tucked in there is "Mandarin Oriental" for $4800 - 5 star luxury hotel chain |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
40. Sorry, tells you what I know... |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. she can't accept a comp |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Better than an outstanding debt n/t |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
30. Obama's reported debts |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #30 |
41. I was just informed |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #41 |
50. Quite significant. Character counts. Right? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. So now paying your bills on time is now a character defect? |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Nope. Ridicule is. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Ha! Realy? Comparing a campaign that spent $130 million and left with $7.6 million in debt |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
77. You still don't get it, do you? |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. No, YOU don't get it |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 05:36 PM Response to Reply #78 |
84. Okay, you've convinced me. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. Check your PM |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
52. Worst campaign ever |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. You mean release her from paying the college kids that worked for her in Iowa? |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:50 PM Response to Original message |
53. Hillary Clinton DEBTOR Candidate. Perfect Summarization of Her FAILURE. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. More important is her telling lies to the media about paying her bills |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
58. Her campaign needs to supply a full accounting |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:14 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. We'll find out in March |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
60. OH! MY! GOD! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. I bet there is a whole list of folks that agree with you |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:23 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. I feel bad for them! |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I'm sure with her cache of lawyers and spin meisters |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
64. She owes $33,750 to the DNC? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Maybe for voter lists. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. And $10,000 to the VAN which means she screwed the Iowa Democractic Party. n/t |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
67. More Democrats really need a business education. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Employees work on a net-90 basis? Really? |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. so pick out what actually past due and or had to be sued to get |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Staff - Obama has NO staff on his past due debts |
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Rosemary2205 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. That's fine |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. I tried - I actually did two seperate threads |
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ElsewheresDaughter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
69. thank you I'm on it and I made a BIG donation in your name...Hillary says THANKS |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:56 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I hope it was REAL big - and I hope it goes directly to the Black Hawk County |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
72. What a mess! How does she expect to direct the American economy? nt |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. I guess the same way |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
75. Why donate? She can just garnish our wages to pay these bills |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. You mean the almost $500, 000 her campaign owes in insurance coverage payments? n/t |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
83. Oh, yes, let's spread needless suspicion and paranoia about Hillary. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
86. Please show me where anything in my OP is false |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-23-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Why don't you post a comparable list for Obama? I'm sure he has some |
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