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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:35 AM
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Isn't the use of the word "xerox" instead of photocopy a copyright infringement
and if Clinton was already having a bad week, couldn't she really get in trouble.

And I remember learning to use the word "tissue" instead of kleenex in an English class somewhere along the way.

And Clinton is herself an attorney, working amongst attorneys. She has got to be exhausted to have gone along with trying this one-liner. And she's paying too many people too much valuable money to have this happen.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:36 AM
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1. It's free advertising.
I don't think they'll complain.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:38 AM
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3. I certainly thought about that; maybe Obama will get the "endorsement" ads contract. eom.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:02 AM
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18. They actually contributed to her '06 Senate run-- $5,000.
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:38 AM
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2. Maybe she had corporate sponsorship...
from Xerox to use it. ;)

Goodness knows she could use the cash!
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:39 AM
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4. you mean permission, not cash....
after all, we know she can't accept corporate money.....
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:39 AM
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5. Names like jello, kleenex and xerox have fallen into the public domain through common usage.
If their use is capitalized, yeah, then maybe someone might have a case.
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geiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:40 AM
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6. not when you're a business owner with a non-Xerox product on your premises
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 09:01 AM
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13. Photo copying is what
I was told to say by the non-Xerox machine tech. Saying Xeroxing or any other form of the word was a big no-no.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:42 AM
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7. It depends. When I was in college I took a
class in marketing and advertising. This was in the early 80's but from what I remember some brands become "generic" when used so frequently that they become definitions for anything that is what that brand is. This happened with "Thermos" which was a brand name for vacuum bottles. Who says "vacuum bottle" anymore? But people do say "thermos" to describe those containers that keep food or liquids hot. "Kleenex" and "vaseline" are two others. "Xerox" is interesting. It is a brand name, a noun. Yet somewhere along the line people started using it to describe the act of copying something as in "xeroxing." I know that Thermos fought to keep it's name non generic but lost. Don't know about the others ones as it's been a long time. I do remember finding that part of the course very interesting.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:44 AM
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8. Yes. Consequently, feel free to speak ill of her.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:45 AM
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9. For some products the term becomes what is referred to as
"generic," under copyright law, e.g., kleenex, frigidaire, corn flakes. At least that's what I recall from the copyright class I took in law school almost 40 years ago. I have noticed my grandchildren say "tissue" not kleenex, so somebody is teaching this? More corporatist nonsense.

Eisenhower once said people "should have a Coke" meaning chill out and calm down, there was a huge uproar about that.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:46 AM
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10. "Xerox" is in the public domain.
Much like "Kleenex" is.

What a silly point to make.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:49 AM
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11. Excuse me while I go and Canon this thread.
:silly:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 08:52 AM
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12. We should "google" it and find out. n/t
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Prefer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:52 AM
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14. it's plagerism!
Hillary STOLE that from a corporation.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:53 AM
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15. Steal a dictionary.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 10:53 AM
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16. Go Eat Some Breakfast. It'll Help Your Brain Be A Bit Sharper.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:01 AM
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17. Xerox Corp. Political Action Commitee (X-PAC) contributed $5000 to her '06 Senate run.
Maybe she's advertising for them?
:shrug:
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:24 AM
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19. Xerox used to take great legal pains to keep people from using it as a generic term
If brand names (kleenex, thermos) are used commonly as generic terms for the product category and the company is not seen as making an effort to protect the names, the company risks losing the right to exclusive use of the name.

I haven't heard much lately, but Xerox used to threaten legal sanctions against people for using Xerox generically in order to show that they were protecting their name.

They must have done a good job, if the laughter among younger people at Clinton's use of the term is any indication. People don't commonly say "xerox" as a generic term for "copy" anymore. So I doubt Xerox will be worried about it.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:28 AM
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20. Xerox is a noun, not a verb.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:30 AM
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21. In a cut and paste world, Xerox sounds dated. nt
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Umbram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 11:31 AM
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22. The threat to Xerox is 'genericide'
Xerox has spent considerable amounts of money preventing its mark from being used as a verb.

Google is beginning to have similar concerns.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:06 PM
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23. Well, I have heard it all now, at least.
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Darth_Kitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:08 PM
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24. Gee, hear anything about FREE SPEECH lately?
n/t
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-23-08 12:40 PM
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25. No. It's part of the accepted vernacular.
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