Obama Is Much More Likable as the Underdog

[Altec]

To me, Obama always seemed more attractive as the underdog and Clinton was a much more likable front runner. In the debates where he was the underdog, or was more closely tied with Clinton he was much more likable. In the debate after his win in Iowa and in last night's debate, he came off very smug to me.

Clinton is usually wonderful in these debates, but I think she did poorly last night. But at the same time, she seemed much more gracious than Obama who came off looking like he felt superior, didn't really have to go in depth on the issues, and sort of bragging. Whenever Clinton was talking, he had this really arrogant look on his face.

I liked it him better when he was the underdog and bumbled through the debates.

[Egnever]

1. Remember it fondly

You will never see it again.

[Faygo Kid]

35. You bet. That goes for the general election, too.

[BOSSHOG]

2. Wow you insulted Obama, take cover

[MADem]

3. Heh, heh....

:hide:

[AlertLurker]

4. He seems just as likeable as he ever was.

It's the zombie children from planet Barack Obama supporters who were more likeable when he was the underdog!

[nomorewhopper]

19. please go back to canada, kthanks

calling obama supporters "zombie children from planet Barack" - how nice of you.

[democrattotheend]

5. I think he went into depth on the issues

and I don't think he acted superior.

He did sound kind of arrogant when he said his speeches were good though.

[rodeodance]

26. YEAH--he just agreed with Hillary a lot. she did the depth work, he nodded. FOLLOW THE LEADER

[Coexist]

6. I think he felt he had to go into depth to combat the "empty suit" attacks

and I think he did quite well.

[NJSecularist]

7. Let me guess, he was being sexist last night?

:crazy: :crazy:

[MadBadger]

8. Wow, I thought he wasnt looking at her at all?

SO how did you see the "arrogant look on his face"

And you liked him when he bumbled through the debates...lol

Face it, you like it when Hillary is winning, and Obama is losing.

[anigbrowl]

11. I thought he spent all that time writing so he wouldn't have to look at her.

One thing that pisses me of in the debates - the candidates get up and walk away at the end. WHY aren't their notes and doodlings immediately slapped up on camera for the entertainment of viewers?

Why? Why? WHY???slash???

[LSparkle]

9. I think he's looking more and more presidential every day

and I'm feeling more comfortable with him as a potential commander-in-chief. I don't see him as acting superior; he's just trying to assuage any voters' doubts about his competence, considering his youth and relative newness to the national political scene.

[BringBigDogBack]

10. me too.

[Altec]

12. I just think the look of

"Why are you even talking" was a bit discerning. He came off as being pompous, not sexist.

[cd3dem]

24. Obama: "the people who have been voting for me or involved in my campaign are somehow delusional"

Debate Takes On Contentious Air

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/22/us/politics/22debate.html?_r=2&th&emc=th&oref=slogin&oref=slogin



hahaha.... this is the power of selective editing!!!!!! just the way they have done it to the Clintons!

He looks pretty "SMUG" to me!!!!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

13. Obama strikes you as uppity, eh?

Yeah, a lot of people think that way.

[calico1]

23. I also think he acts pompous.

Just as I think GWB acts pompous.

I am getting really tired of the "uppity" racial accusation when anyone says he is pompous or arrogant.

I am a person of color too and I can tell you without a doubt that there are a lot of people of color that are pompous asses. (Including some of my relatives). Arrogance is not confined to White people only.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Uh huh.

And I'm getting really tired of sore losers calling Obama arrogant and pompous when he sure as hell has done nothing to deserve it.

[calico1]

29. Hey, if that's what you want to believe then

knock yourself out.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

30. Hey...

if you've got a legitimate explanation for why you think he's "pompous" I'm all ears.

[calico1]

32. Since you are obviously an Obama fan

what explanation would be "legitimate?"

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. any explanation...

which is justified and within accordance of common sense.

[calico1]

38. I'm sorry..

but I don't need to justify my feelings for Obama, for Clinton, for Edwards or for anyone else. And I would never ask you to justify your opinion either. I accept that some people like him, some people don't and the same goes for Clinton, Edwards, Biden, etc. I am free to express my opinions (last time I checked) andf I am not going to interrogate you or anyone else over their's. Have a nice evening.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. If you make an accusation against somebody you should explain it.

That's just basic decency.

[jmg257]

14. He definitely has more confidence, is more sure of himself & his message. & why not? He's WINNING!

He has debated 19 times now and I am sure is a bit tired of the same empty attacks, the same old "no experience" BS.

ABout time he shows he is in command.

[AtomicKitten]

15. No, the only way he would be likable to you and others here is if he was losing.

[Mike03]

16. That's a very discerning point

Maybe in a very poor way that is what I was trying to say in another post.

Good observation. We will see what happens.

[GodlessBiker]

17. So you didn't like Clinton or Obama in the debate. Welcome to DU.

[nomorewhopper]

18. this is why these debates are so fucking stupid

people literally don't give a shit about the issues its all about "he looked uppity" and "she was a witch".

for fucks sake.

the original poster liked it better when hillary was in the lead. he is angry at obama for taking that away from her. he is doing what psychologists call "projecting". you are projecting your feelings onto obama, and the results are that you feel he is arrogant.

[Big Blue Marble]

21. Thank you for explaining

this common psychological behavior. We see everything through our own filters and
call it the truth.

DU-P these days is great place for studying the psychological workings of the human mind. :crazy:

[Barack_America]

20. Could that be because you are a Clinton supporter...

...and thus prefer her as the front-runner?

What I get from your post is that Obama is the front-runner, has acknowledged it and you don't like it.

[cd3dem]

22. He raises his head in arrogance and more sexist statements by calling her comments "silly."

If you can't vote for a woman, vote for this guy instead! He can fix the economy!

[GarbagemanLB]

25. She's a racist for saying 'get real' to his comments.

[cd3dem]

42. what code is "get real"?

[rodeodance]

27. Hillary's Reviews Are In: 'Standing Ovation,' 'Really Scored,' 'A Stronger Performance'

Hillary's Reviews Are In: 'Standing Ovation,' 'Really Scored,' 'A Stronger Performance'
by Lindsay Levin
2/21/2008 10:31:02 PM

CNN's Campbell Brown notes a 'standing ovation' in response to Hillary's closing remarks.

CNN political analyst David Gergen - Hillary's last statement 'was the most effective moment she's had on television, I believe, since the New Hampshire primary… really scored on that.'

Politico's Ben Smith - 'Clinton's answer was a stronger performance.' "Clinton's answer was a stronger performance; Obama seems like he's about ready to get out of here."

CNN's Bill Schneider - Hillary 'just made an effective argument against John McCain.' "Clinton just made an effective argument against John McCain: Though the Arizona senator is a champion against wasteful spending, Clinton pointed to his support for the Bush tax cuts and the war in Iraq - both colossal expenditures unpopular with most Democrats."

NBC News' Chuck Todd - Hillary 'had a couple of very good moments on health care and the economy.' "Did she potentially win this debate on points; I think so; it was close but she had a couple of VERY good moments on health care and the economy that probably scored well in the various focus groups of undecided voters watching this debate."

New Republic's Michael Crowley - 'The subject of health care always brings out a formidable passion and policy fluency in Hillary.' "So much of the time politicians just seem to be going through the motions when debating the issues. But the subject of health care always brings out a formidable passion and policy fluency in Hillary. People can call her a phony for all kinds of reasons but it's clear she really gets and cares about this stuff."

ABC News' Rick Klein - Hillary 'sounds calm, in charge, deliberate.'

MyDD's Todd Beeton - 'Hillary Clinton just hit that closing response out of the park.' "Hillary Clinton just hit that closing response out of the park."


http://blog.hillaryclinton.com/blog/main/2008/02/22/033...

[TheDonkey]

31. If he were a woman you'd say he came off as confident. I think Obama looked v. Presidential

Clinton came off as argumentative and bullying. She only gave this faux smile when Obama would answer and would not look at him when she went on her rants.

[SteppingRazor]

33. I disagree. He's likeable enough.

:P

[carlotta]

36. hehe

When Obama said that to Hillary I began to realize how arrogant he is.

[SteppingRazor]

37. Eh, I don't think he's any more arrogant than anyone else who runs for president.

It takes quite an ego to look yourself in the mirror and say, "Yes, yes. This is someone who could be the president of the United States, the self-styled leader of the free world."

[NOLALady]

40. Smug? Arrogant? Superior?

Can't have that. Scary, huh?

He didn't seem superior or privileged IMHO.

[LadyVT]

41. I agree with everything you said.