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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:06 PM Original message |
Hmmmm......is race playing a role in Mass? Mccain within 2 of Obama |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes, because we know how "liberal" the north is right? |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Indeed |
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MassLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Mass. was the first state |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #17 |
54. It was also the first colony to legalize slavery. n/t |
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MassLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. the governor of Mass. is African American |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. That may actually explain why |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. really? can you explain more? |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I edited my previous post to give more detail n/t |
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MassLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. I can't imagine |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Yes, but there are so many similarities |
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usrbs (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. I don't think Patrick did that horrible a job |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. How about one who talks EXACTLY the same talk? And I do mean EXACTLY. |
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MassLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. I understand what you're saying |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. It makes sense, but it IS wrongheaded |
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MassLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. I'm not saying it's right either |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. In your mind it is wrong headed. That is YOUR opinion. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Yes, it is just an opinion n/t |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
21. Scandals....The draperies? The Caddy? |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. No I don't, so I am just going by media reports in terms of public opinion |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Also, here are the scandals I refer to |
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Divernan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. The Mass. Governor's spending is peanuts compared to PA Governors |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Not scandals... but really not much accomplished either. |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. Oh, I agree with you there, but I also feel that blame lies more |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:26 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Yes- the end result is the same though |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. If you live there can you give us any insight why his numbers are so low? |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
64. Some of us in MA still like Patrick- |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. Sorry, I was just trying to provide some insight |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No offense taken- |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:53 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Yes we do! |
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Freida5 (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Have Democrats ever lost MA in a General Election? |
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The Ghost (557 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. 1984 Reagan won |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. In a 49 state blowout |
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nickn777 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. yes, reagan carried state twice n/t |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Reagan is not Mccain and Reagan won landslides |
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nickn777 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I think McCain thinks he's Reagan n/t |
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nomorewhopper (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. race is not a factor in mass |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
10. Who wants to make a bet jackson_dem makes a post about this later. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Another prediction: |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Yup, that's a jackson_dem specialty. |
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Tropics_Dude83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
14. Oh and I'm not making this as a partisan candidate post |
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floridablue (996 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
18. My friend in Mass says |
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nickn777 (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. As a Mass. resident I can tell you.... |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #26 |
57. people don't often make sense in the way that they vote - it's an emotional thing. |
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jakem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #26 |
66. As a Mass resident- I still like Patrick- |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
70. And as a MA resident, you could bother to spell his name correctly |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
73. I live in Mass..... |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
19. Before you label us as racists remember we elected Obama's friend in a landslide |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
36. The difference is that Duval had no real government experience |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. People hear the SAME words, people hear the SAME message and yes they think "They are the same" |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Not disagreeing; it would certain have an effect on voter opinion n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #19 |
39. oh please. Mass is not going to go for McCain |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
63. Exactly. You all have seem the Axlerod movie before |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
23. is that where they threw rocks at buses? Yeah, probably. nt |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. NO race is not the factor and frankly I don't appreciate your insinuations |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
47. Boston has a well earned reputation as a racist city. Those are the facts, no insinuations. nt. |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:27 PM Response to Reply #47 |
52. It has also changed a great deal- Something you are overlooking. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. I don't disagree that it has improved. It is still a factor though. nt. |
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George_Bonanza (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. So in a battle b/w Deval II and Dubya II, MA would side with the latter? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Many people do not equate McCain with Bush. |
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I Vote In Pittsburgh (387 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #31 |
48. Let's hope so! |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
30. What do you think of the SUSA polls that show Obama outperforming her in |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
32. Mass. already has the original so I guess they're not too interested in the Xerox copy. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #32 |
65. lol! |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:24 PM Response to Original message |
34. On the other hand Obama is running better than HRC in several states |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. Yes, that is the only possibility. So, er, MA is more racist than MO or VA (looking at the H2Hs)? |
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x-g.o.p.er (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. Dude, it's FEBRUARY |
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rox63 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. Race won't be a factor here in MA |
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kerry-is-my-prez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
53. If it's playing a part in Mass the most liberal state - we're totally screwed elsewhere. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
56. I think it may nationally in the GE, privately in the voting booth, not publicly n/t |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
61. Obama campaign modus operandi, "it never hurts to cry race." |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #61 |
72. I love how you all.... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:42 PM Response to Original message |
62. Massachussetts is so racist it is one of 2 states with a minority governor! |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-22-08 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
67. Time will tell, won't it? |
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