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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:41 PM Original message |
Survey USA Texas Poll: Hillary 50 Obama 45 |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. :) |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. Amazing |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. almost tied and Obama hasn't even touched down yet! |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Original message |
, thanks. He seems to have closed the gap nicely |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
4. not surprised ... wait until election day ... Obama for the WIN |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
5. bad news for Hillary |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
6. Thanks Herman! She was up by 15 just a week ago! |
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GarbagemanLB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. LOL |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
8. My initial thought is that they overrepresented Latinos and underrepresented blacks |
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Herman Munster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. actually they may have underestimated hispanics |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Link? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Hispanics haven't shown up in Texas. |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
57. Why not 70% |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
9. First time in my life I ever recommended a Herman thread! |
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Iktomiwicasa (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
60. Herman's full of good news for Obama |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
10. Survey USA overall has a good track record and I think this is about right |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
11. Don't we have a debate coming up soon? |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm going to say that they may be underestimating crossover voting. |
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mckeown1128 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
13. I have come to trust SUSA more then the other polls... |
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Araxen (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
14. A poll I think I can trust |
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BeyondGeography (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
16. Be very afraid, Herman |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. I bet he is! Obama might win Texas! |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
18. 20 point lead gone just like that. And Obama hasn't even campaigned there |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
19. Very nice. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. Thanks Hermy! |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
22. Texas is not a Hillary Clinton firewall |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #22 |
73. The purpose of a firewall is not to stop the fire |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
23. I Never Understand this. He leads among Indies and Repukes, while she leads among dems, BUT |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #23 |
48. dems in TX tend to be conservatives or moderates |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
24. Seriously.. .how bad must things be for Hillary when HERMAN, of all people, is... |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Go Herman! Gobama! |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. Doesn't Hillary have to win both TX and OH by 20 points to catch up? nm |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. No |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. But winning by five wont do it. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. There are plenty of other states after March 4 |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Obama will win at least Vermont, and dont be surprised if he takes Rhode Island |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. It is hard to see him winning Rhode Island if he lost Mass. despite having Kenney/Kerry/Patrick |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. He won CT. Plus, arent there some upscale liberals in Rhode island, Like in Newport? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I don't know much about Rhode Island |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Moving the goal posts |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. She needs to win both. The margins don't matter. |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Yes |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-18-08 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
27. With two debates before Texas and we know how Hill owns Obama in every debate |
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Quixote1818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Actually most of the debates are about a wash. No clear winner or loser. nt |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:03 AM Original message |
With multiple candidates. Two candidate debates can have a significant impact |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
40. Didn't work out as well as you say in the California debates |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. How did that work out on Super Tuesday? |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. How do you "lose" when you get about 100,000 more votes? |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Because delegates count |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. After the last debate, Obama won 13 states (out of 22) and more delegates.... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
44. And lost by about 100,000 votes (all states are not the same size contrary to Obama mythology) |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Yes we know. They are "second class." |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. No but it is as dumb to throw the states won number now as it was when the rethugs did in 00' and 04 |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #46 |
62. yes - the 50 state strategy sucks, according to Hillary |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:15 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. All that matters is delegates...... Obama won those..... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Obama had been surging after South Carolina |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Wait a minute.... you Hillary supporters spent the days after SC |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #54 |
55. I was an Edwards supporter. I only became a Hill supporter recently |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #44 |
63. I bet he's totally wishing he had those 100,000 votes now |
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CTLawGuy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. thats a shitty margin |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
39. She needs to win MUCH bigger then that, or she is done |
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jefferson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
41. Wow. Great news for O. SUSA has proven to be the most reliable pollster out there this season. |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
43. txxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx |
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jonathanseer (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 12:53 AM Response to Original message |
56. Keep Dreaming |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. RASMUSSEN IS THE MOST ACCURATE?????????? LOL |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
66. You missed a lot |
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jonathanseer (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #59 |
68. NO THEY DID NOT Here is the link - I know facts give you a headache |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #68 |
71. O OK, they had Romney tied when he lost by double digits. |
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jonathanseer (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. well then why did you comment? If you don't read a post, who gives a damn what you think |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. What are you smoking? Rasmussen has been terrible all primary season. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. Prove Rasmussen is the best pollster. I guarantee you are wrong. |
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jonathanseer (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #65 |
69. You canNOT prove a SUBJECTIVE POINT because it's an OPINION |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #69 |
72. I'll give you your facts buddy |
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MrRobotsHolyOrders (681 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #56 |
67. It's all a conspiracy! |
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DesEtoiles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
61. What does the ARG poll say? |
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