Elizabeth Edwards: Clinton's new health care plan a copy of her husband's except for the Lobbyists

[FrenchieCat]

Edwards, 58, has drawn a bull's-eye on Clinton's back, having claimed that she is "more joyful" than the former First Lady and that her husband would be a better White House advocate for women.

She said Clinton's new health care plan is a virtual copy of her husband's, with one difference being Clinton would invite lobbyists to the negotiating table.

"We think that's the wrong direction to go," she said. "If you sit down and negotiate with them, you're going to give away something the American people need."
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"This primary season is not about Feb. 5. This primary season is about November of 2008, and we have to get a nominee who can win. That's all."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/us_world/2007/09/25/2007-09-25_clintons_tanked_90s_health_plan_for_clou-3.html


Video of Ms. Edwards talking about this further here: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/09/20/clinton-ripped-off-edwards%E2%80%99-health-care-plan-says-wife/

[SoFlaJet]

1. so wait a minute Frenchie

is Elizabeth saying that The Clintons are STEALING an idea? PLAGERIZING?

[FrenchieCat]

3. Something like that......

But that's ok, you see.

[SoFlaJet]

6. Just think only two more weeks

of Hillary Clinton.....ahhh..I....can't.....WAIT

[FrenchieCat]

10. I'm praying for this. They are really on my last nerves.....small and petty......

like it's anyone's fault they didn't plan adequately! :eyes:

[Maddy McCall]

2. Wait...don't you hate the Edwards?

You called them insignificant earlier.

[FrenchieCat]

4. I don't "hate" anyone.......

And I don't recall using the term "insignificant". can you show me this?

[saracat]

7. Wow. Considering the vicious anti Edwards spam you spilled all over

DU both before and after Edwards suspended, I find your comment disingenuous.

[FrenchieCat]

12. Find those for me.

I criticized Edwards on his senate stances versus his campaign rethoric throughout the primaries till he dropped out. There you are correct.

Didn't say shit about him since he dropped out.......although "Shit or get off the pot" would be appropriate right about now.

So just find some proof of what you are talking about once he suspended, cause I'm fucking tired of accusations without evidence. That's a cheap way to go.

Plus, you are attacking me personally, once again. I, on the other hand am sticking to dealing with the primaries and the candidates.

[saracat]

5. And isn't your candidate really the one guaranteeing a "place at the table to insurance companies?"

[FrenchieCat]

8. a place.......

not the whole damn table.

It appears that you will have to take this one up with Ms. Edwards.

Nice Video, but the way! You should watch it.

[saracat]

9. And it is interesting that you have to use OLD news to illustrate some bizarre point you are making

Elizabeth was making a point about an opponent of her husband's . Today it is different. I would have said the same "then". But "today" Clinton's plan is closer to Edwards than Obama;s will ever be. Edwards himself say that is a "sticking " point.

[Maddy McCall]

11. That's her style.

She's a superstar anti-Clinton, anti-Edwards poster.

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[SoFlaJet]

16. nevermind

I'm not gonna say it-I'm tempted but I won't-better angels and all

[FrenchieCat]

13. Why not? There's a thread on this forum from someone else doing the exact same thing.....

Hope you are in that thread denouncing that poster too. Just so you don't look like a great big hypocrite.

[karynnj]

27. If it is the same - it was and is close

The truth in terms of the difference or the similarity is the same now as it was then. Truth is truth.

In fact, all three plans in 2008 are closer to each other than any are to Edwards 2004 plan. This time in 2004, Edwards was saying that Kerry's plan which covered far more people was unaffordable. It says something that the case was made well enough in 2004, 2006 and since that every Democrat running had a plan that included universal ACCESS to health insurance.

The fact of the matter is that if a Democrat wins the Presidency, whether the plan that passes Congress has mandates or not will depend more on whether Congress will pass a plan with or without them (and there are political and econonimc arguments both ways) than on which Democrat is President.

[rodeodance]

20. yes, O. made that very clear

[OzarkDem]

15. That's a pretty good endorsement for Hillary

Since this was written back before Edwards dropped out of the race, and

she said Clinton's health present health care reform plan is a lot like her husband's

and

since she criticized Hillary for not going hard enough after health care reform in 1996,

then Elizabeth's words are a compliment to Hillary.

Why?

She said Clinton's health care reform plan is a lot like her husband's (not like Obama's)

Since Obama is actually doing more to hurt the effort for real health care reform by backing away from universal coverage

There's no other way to interpret it.

Hillary's plan is like Edwards and she's fighting harder for it than Obama. Period.

[rodeodance]

21. yes, that article that Hill's echo's John's have been posted several time. Good for Hil

[ElsewheresDaughter]

17. Hillary's HC plan 1994 remember that...frenchie?

[emilyg]

18. Stale news.

[AtomicKitten]

19. Hokey smokes! It looks like ClintonCo, dare I say, PLAGIARIZED Edwards' plan.

:silly:

[ncteechur]

22. OK, I think a lot of John and Elizabeth Edwards but they are out

and so they need to stay out of the election in so far as official comment goes.

[rodeodance]

23. OP is using material form sep of 07 to play on plagerism. stupid move by the OP

[onehandle]

24. If we would have nominated the best candidate...

...we would have gotten Elizabeth Edwards too.

Too bad we're settling for the second and third best.

[cbayer]

25. This is BS.

It's an article from 9/07 when Edwards was in the race. Why do you post it as if it is happening now?

[FrenchieCat]

26. Same reason someone posted stuff.....From Elizabeth from some time ago.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4650212

[cbayer]

28. Oh, I get it.

It's because most people on this site have knee-jerk reactions to the OP's and don't actually open the links to see what they say, where they come from or when they were written.

And if it's done in a way that hurts your candidate, the best way to retaliate is to do it back?

[FrenchieCat]

29. Not exactly. Someone has a post stating that E. Edwards said that

Obama was a copycat.

So, here, I post that this is not all of what she said. She also stated that Hillary was a copycat.

And here's Hillary stealing Edwards words right out of his mouth. http://www.oliverwillis.com/archives/2008/02/18/clintons-plagiarism-charge-fal/