Plagiarism - the unauthorized use...

[Blue State Bandit]

or close imitation of the language and thoughts of another author and the representation of them as one's own original work. Unauthorized use!

I've got another word for you guys.

Calumny - a false and malicious statement designed to injure the reputation of someone or something.


Don't throw mud if your going to complain when you get it all over you!

[thereismore]

1. Yes. She is grasping at straws. nt

[K Gardner]

2. You mean these dipwads didn't even know the DEFINITION of plagiarize before, during

or AFTER their desperation mass sling??

Why am I not surprised.

[Blue State Bandit]

3. OK , I admit, they did it....

I just opened the Websters dictionary and found every word they said.

[truedelphi]

6. The Clintonistas did not take into account

The horrible fact that Hillary did not acknowledge the ghost writer for her much heralded "It Takes a Village" project - that woman writer had to go to court to set things right!

[amborin]

4. plagiarism === failure to attribute

ideas, words, material, etc....to their author

it's passing off something as one's own original creation

it's misleading the audience.....into thinking the ideas, words, etc...are one's own, by failiing to inform the audience that the ideas, words, etc....were authored by someone else

[qazplm]

14. so paid speechwriter

doesnt equal plagiarism, but unpaid campaign cochair and friend does?

Yeah, you are going to go real far with that one.

[sniffa]

5. Stephanie Tubbs disagrees

[sniffa]

7. Now she's attacking the media

They don't scrutinize Obama enough, pick on HRC too much. And now she's almost screaming like Hillary.

[K Gardner]

11. We just discussed this Hateappearance on another thread.. astounding that she is

a sitting congressperson, and is on air spewing bitter partisan hackery on behalf of Clinton. She must have been promised a cabinet job.

[sniffa]

13. Which thread?

I want in.

[K Gardner]

16. Here..

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4646664

[sniffa]

23. Thanks

[Maddy McCall]

8. Actually, it's also the "uncited" use.

[blocker]

12. so it's ok for Hillary to do it, why not Obama

There was no uproar when Clinton did it, what's going on here, especially when Obama quoted the speech from his friend and partner!
This is getting stupid and will backfire on Clinton for sure.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Hillary_also_fired_up_ready_to_go.html

[rocktivity]

9. Speaking of calunmy, shame on the New York Times

for running this story with an anonymous source (a "rival campaign who did not want to be identified"). They hold Obama accountable for the content of the speeches, yet they don't hold the source accountable for not identifying themselves? They're equally guilty--and cowardly and pathetic.

:mad:
rocknation

[apocalypsehow]

10. Excellent post. K & R.

:thumbsup: :kick:

[MonkeyFunk]

15. So if I get permission from my college roommate

to hand in his paper as my own, no problem, right?

[scheming daemons]

17. PAPERS != SPEECHES

But nice try......

[MonkeyFunk]

18. No

but that's not the topic under discussion now, is it?

The claim is that having permission is an absolute defense against a charge of plagiarism.

I contend that that is a false claim.

Now do you want to argue that particular point, or something else?

[Abacus]

19. That is a false analogy

and I'd have expected better from you. If your professor allows ghostwriters and speech writers and your roommate gives you permission, then correct: no problem.

[MonkeyFunk]

21. My point is a very narrow one

and a very simple one: permission is not an absolute defense against charges of plagiarism.

[Abacus]

22. I agree, that's why context is important.

In this context, it cannot be rightly called plagiarism without designating every politician as a plagiarist.

[MonkeyFunk]

25. And I never claimed otherwise

but others here, in this thread and others, are claiming that authorization precludes plagiarism. That's what I'm arguing.

[Lucinda]

20. plagiarize

plagiarize
Main Entry: pla·gia·rize
Pronunciation: \ˈplā-jə-ˌrīz also -jē-ə-\
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): pla·gia·rized; pla·gia·riz·ing
Etymology: plagiary
Date: 1716
transitive verb
: to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive verb
: to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/plagiarize

[kingsbridge777]

24. The bottom line: Obama is unauthentic

First his flip-flop in campaign finance, and now this passage in which he had to borrow a line from someone else.