"Speeches don't put food on the table. Speeches don't fill your prescriptions."

[hiaasenrocks]

Hillary is exactly right!

What puts food on the table and fills the prescriptions is knowing whether Obama is actually a plagiarist and whether David Shuster is actually a sexist.

Those are the real issues, people!

Thank you, Hillary campaign and surrogates, for highlighting the REAL issues that will put food on the table and fill the prescriptions.

Let's stick to these crucial issues!

[dkf]

1. Speeches put $40 million into Bill & Hillary's pockets

and let her donate quite a nice sum to her campaign...

[City Lights]

4. Exactly. Giving speeches seems to work just fine for them.

Someone should point it out to her.

[dkf]

15. Actually, think of how many people she could feed for $40 million.

That is quite a few mouths.

We should really start a movement and ask her to donate that $.

[Iris]

2. If Obama has to plagiarize to make a speech, then that means he has no ideas of his own.

That's what we want in the White House? We've had that for 8 years now.

[ProSense]

5. Hillary's campaign is the only one

language without permission.

This claim against Obama is a cheap stunt by her campaign to distort what really happened:

“Don’t tell me words don’t matter,” Mr. Obama said, to applause. “ ‘I have a dream’ — just words? ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal’ — just words? ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ — just words? Just speeches?”

Mr. Patrick employed similar language during his 2006 governor’s race when his Republican rival, Kerry Healey, criticized him as offering lofty rhetoric over specifics. Mr. Patrick has endorsed Mr. Obama, and the two men are close friends.

“ ‘We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal’ — just words? Just words?” Mr. Patrick said one month before his election. “ ‘We have nothing to fear but fear itself’ — just words? ‘Ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.’ Just words? ‘I have a dream’ — just words?”

In a telephone interview on Sunday, Mr. Patrick said that he and Mr. Obama first talked about the attacks from their respective rivals last summer, when Mrs. Clinton was raising questions about Mr. Obama’s experience, and that they discussed them again last week.

Both men had anticipated that Mr. Obama’s rhetorical strength would provide a point of criticism. Mr. Patrick said he told Mr. Obama that he should respond to the criticism, and he shared language from his campaign with Mr. Obama’s speechwriters.

Mr. Patrick said he did not believe Mr. Obama should give him credit.

“Who knows who I am? The point is more important than whose argument it is,” said Mr. Patrick, who telephoned The New York Times at the request of the Obama campaign. “It’s a transcendent argument.”

David Axelrod, the chief strategist for Mr. Obama who also advised Mr. Patrick, said Sunday that Mr. Obama adapted the words from Mr. Patrick. Mr. Axelrod said that he did not write the words for either candidate.

“They often riff off one another. They share a world view,” Mr. Axelrod said. “Both of them are effective speakers whose words tend to get requoted and arguments tend to be embraced widely.”

The similarities from a passage of Mr. Obama’s speech on Saturday and in remarks that Mr. Patrick delivered on Oct. 15, 2006, were highlighted by a rival campaign that did not want to be identified. Clips of both speeches are archived on the Web site YouTube.com.

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[durrrty libby]

13. Patrick is a miserable failure. Only an idiot would want to copy him

[hiaasenrocks]

6. Certainly you must realize that politicians of all stripes

have teams of people who feed them information and formulate policy. Rarely do they solve problems with "ideas" that are theirs and theirs alone.

That aside, has Obama plagiarized solutions for problems? Tell me.

[Iris]

9. I wish he would plagiarize some solutions.

[hiaasenrocks]

10. OK, so you have nothing. Thanks. n/t

[Iris]

11. What do you mean I have nothing? You said yourself that politicians don't have ideas, they borrow

them. So how hard can it be for him to borrow some solutions?

[hiaasenrocks]

17. Where did I say they "don't have ideas"?

You just made that up. And why didn't you realize that going by what I said, NO idea would ever be possible, IF your conclusion was correct? Please.

That aside, let's get back to what you were saying. You indicated in your post that you don't want someone in the WH who doesn't have ideas of his own, then you said you hoped he would take some from others. So which is it?

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

8. --->

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4642975&mesg_id=4642975

[Ashy Larry]

12. You want 8 years of Hillary "plagiarizing" from this guy?

[NC_Nurse]

3. At least the Dems aren't trying to put food on your family.

Like Bush/McLame. Ewww.

[BlueManDude]

7. Losing 40 states to McCain in November won't either.

[HeraldSquare212]

14. In other breaking news: water is wet!

[yourguide]

16. Years ago Hillary said...

she was going to get me free health care, havent seen it yet. I live in NY and she hasnt done crap for us.

I have seen the results of Hillary's speeches...the result is goose eggs.

I would rather give someone new a shot to see if he can convert his speeches to reality.