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LadyVT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:22 PM
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Latest Wisconsin poll data
Pollster Dates N/Pop Clinton Obama Undecided
American Research Group 2/15-16/08 600 LV 49 43 7
Research 2000 2/13-14/08 400 LV 42 47 11
Rasmussen Reports 2/13/08 855 LV 43 47 10
Public Policy Polling (D) 2/11/08 642 LV 39 50 10

:)

Also, watched fox news (gasp) special just now, where they focus grouped a group of undecided voters, and had them rate the ads of all the candidates, which was interesting. Previewed Clinton's new ad which will air in Wisconsin tonight--it was great!
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FARAFIELD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:24 PM
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1. Did Frank Luntz
have his undecided that he carries around with him?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:27 PM
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5. They were all nestling comfortably...
...in his toupe.

A few were on the first floor.

A couple were on the second floor.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:32 PM
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6. That miserable fucker is .... UNWATCHABLE. And such a mendacious asswipe! NT
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:26 PM
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2. So 3 of the 4 polls have Obama winning by 4 to 11 points?
:shrug:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:34 PM
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7. Well, if you look at the dates, there's a trend that she's doing better as time goes on.
Of course, they are all different pollsters.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:28 AM
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12. You are relying on the ARG poll.
It's funny. When ARG had Obama winning Texas by six points the other day a lot of Clinton supporters on this board were quick to opine that they didn't believe that poll and that ARG is a crappy polling outfit. But now that ARG is the only poll out of several that shows Clinton ahead in Wisconsin suddenly ARG is a good poll. What hypocrisy!
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 09:00 PM
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14. I am not "relying" on anything. I was simply speculating based on the tiny amount of
information provided in the post. It looks, generally, like the trend was upward as time progressed.

I am not from there, I haven't locked on to what is going on there, and I have not a fucking clue what will happen there.

But DO go on, and get all 'dramatically partisan' because I simply noted the faint appearance of a trendline.

That's the only "funny" thing happening up in here....the goddamn immature, unceasing, "in your face" pouting accompanied with earnest whining shouts of "Hypocrisy!!" any time anyone dares to suggest ANYTHING that doesn't raise Saint Obama Up On High as Our Lord and Savior.

And you wonder why there's not much concordance in the Democratic Party?

Your "lashing out" post is a perfect example of why people who actually like to discuss issues are fed up to here.

:wtf:

:eyes:
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angie_love Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:26 PM
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3. Did you watch that? I saw that too, it was the biggest load of crap ever
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 11:29 PM by angie_love
Those "undecideds" were the sorriest group of people I've ever seen, so pessimistic and angry. It was hysterical, they were dumping all over the democrats and saying that McCain sounded more positive than Obama. LOL. Yeah i'm sure that represents the "real world". That "new" ad they showed from Clinton isn't really new, Obama already came out with a response to that 2nd new ad, which they didn't show.


Edit: Frank Lutz is the biggest dweeb on tv. Whats his his finger shaking all the time?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 06:47 AM
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11. I watched, not because I think there's any truth to it, but to see what they're pushing now.
I don't believe for a moment that group of people is made up of "uncommitted" voters of all stripes, or that their "opinions" were more than lines. They may not all be actors, but many were acting and had ready lines. It was entirely unbelievable in every regard.

Of course, Luntz has been caught the past few months using actors, and presenting them as uncommitted voters. There's one actor who showed up on his Fox News segments in two separate states. Same guy, different elections.

I assume everything Luntz does is a lie, is fabricated, is planned, and is designed to sell some point of view.
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bilgewaterbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:27 PM
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4. ARG- Hillary's ahead!
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 02:46 AM
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8. ARG
but they show Obama ahead in TX, so i don't believe either of them.
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Obamaniac Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:38 AM
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9. Is ARG proving to be the worst poll of this cycle or what?
nt
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NMMatt Donating Member (523 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 05:39 AM
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10. LOL true... I'll swap WI for TX
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-18-08 08:30 AM
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13. Doesn't Wisconsin matter?
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