Asking any candidate to bow out is undemocratic

[RestoreGore]

It isn't bad enough that Edwards and Kucinich were pushed out and others left and no one even bats an eyelash.... Now, because Obama is giddy because he has a few more delagates, his supporters think they can just push everybody else out. Sorry, but even though I am not crazy about Hillary Clinton myself I find it absolutely arrogant and undemocratic to suggest that she or anyone else drop out just so Obama supporters can gloat. It is all so sleezy and downright dirty. Seems those who call for 'change' still believe in the same Bs political tactics.

Primaries are not over until JUNE. Why were they then scheduled that far ahead? To DELIBERATELY disenfranchise voters? Many Americans have not had their voices heard yet. And in many cycles before those who voted late didn't have a voice because the nominee was crowned months before. So I am actually interested in seeing this go until June if it has to in order to give ALL the people a chance to vote. But of course, Obama and his supporters don't want that because it might just give Clinton some momentum.

It is the same BS that pushed John Edwards out just when he was gaining momentum. Therefore, I don't see much difference between Obama and his supporters and any others. All of you want nothing but to stroke your own egos and claim "you won" and in the process do exactly what you accuse the Clintons of doing.

And people wonder why so many in this country are totally disillusioned with this crappy process. To me at this point it will make no difference who gets the nomination as they are both basically the same, even though Obama's supporters refuse to admit that... so if it goes until June with allowing the PEOPLE to vote that will say to me that Democrats at least care more for Democracy than their counterparts. Though considering so many still condone and eat up the media hype, the polls, and pushing out the others, that is small consolation. Of course, that is not the way it will more than likely be allowed to play out, because it appears that the people in this equation regardless of party are insignificant in this EGO contest.

[niyad]

1. thank you

[RestoreGore]

5. I know from my state being at the end many times with our voices not heard

I say, let the process play out.

[Deja Q]

2. Closet fascists. I just love GDP!!

:rofl:

[niyad]

3. k & r

[Hydra]

4. Considering how undemocratic this process has been already

I have to wonder why I bothered to go to the poll anyway. None of my candidates were available at that point...

On a side note, I do think it's rather amusing how many people here argue that Obama is a progressive.

I'm a progressive, and I've almost been ostracized here, let alone in a race for the presidency!

:evilgrin:

[RestoreGore]

7. yes, it stinks

And now with media polls assuring us that Obama is the winner already after pushing McCain on us, why not just have the coronation already? I mean, democracy means nothing in this country anymore.

[NastyRiffraff]

6. K&R

Excellent, and thank you. I don't care who the candidate is; he or she will bow out, or not, when and if ready. It IS undemocratic to proclaim your candidate "won" when he doesn't have close to the required delegate count.

It's fine to bask in your candidate's success, but trying to push everyone else out to crown someone who hasn't come close to winning the race is arrogant and unseemly. Besides, what do you (Obama supporters*) think you're accomplishing? Do you really think anyone's campaign organizations listens to you? Please. They couldn't care less what you think.

*SOME of Obama's supporters, not all.

[thoughtcrime1984]

8. Watch the broad brush

Not all Obama supporters are calling for her to bow out. I honestly think March 5th will be her day, but we shall see.

[NastyRiffraff]

11. I know there are some good, honest and thoughtful Obama supporters

...who are being shouted down themselves by the screwballs. I try to make it clear that I'm talking about SOME of his supporters, not all. Sorry I left that out, Obama-for-our-future. You're one of the good guys :)

(I edited my original post to try to make more clear that I wasn't talking about everybody who supports BO)

[dkf]

9. No we are asking whoever loses the pledged delegate count to bow out.

That isn't happening yet.

I fully respect all parties right to campaign and win or lose the next batch of primaries/caucuses.

[AliceWonderland]

10. Dang, thank you - the pushing-out process has been depressing

And the "it's for the good of the party" line only makes it worse. I know that as a progressive, I'm voiceless in the proces, but jeez, they don't have to rub it in.

Good post. I swear, I keep looking around for a Cheshire cat in the trees and a vigorous round of flamingo croquet.

[RestoreGore]

15. yes, it is kind of surreal

And many in this forum don't seem to be focused on issues. Just insults and fantasies.

[Guava Jelly]

12. I agree with the title of your thread

I would and have never suggested that Mrs.Clinton bow out.
She is a tough candidate and Bill isn't a slouch himself.
If anything I see this as a way to figure out who is the most battle ready.
This is a kin to Rocky punching a slab of meat to train for the big fight.
This process is making both candidates tougher.
McCain doesn't have to fight really..
Our candidate when one emerges will be ready to kick some serious puke ass!!

And please do me a favor...Try not to use a broad brush when painting Obama supporters..
Many are calm sane adults just like many of those who are supporting Clinton..

[CatnHat]

13. No one should bow out

Let the democratic process play out. With a tight race as this, it's anyone's game.

[Guava Jelly]

14. It is.

It is just a messy game.
:)