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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:46 PM
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Clinton superdelegate: Bill "has screwed this thing up for her big-time...I am angry"
"When she won New Hampshire, they thought they were back on a roll again, so they decided to send him into South Carolina and try to make a difference there," said a Clinton supporter with high-level experience in national campaigns over the past three decades. "They should have just let Barack win by 12 points, because it would have been nothing, and they would have moved on. Instead, they made 12 points into 28. The strategy all along has been mistake after mistake after mistake."

Another supporter said voters had begun to get comfortable with the idea of her as president but "the more came into the picture, the more it detracted from that. It also brought up this image in people's minds of a co-presidency, which voters weren't comfortable with."

A Clinton superdelegate who served in Bill Clinton's administration said the former president "has screwed this thing up for her big-time. They need to send him out of the country for a long, long time. I am angry at Bill Clinton and I think there are other Hillary people who are angry at Bill, who felt that she was running a very good, solid campaign - she wasn't the exciting one, but she was the solid one - and then he came in and made it nasty, and single-handedly pushed away black voters."

This Democrat, in an assessment echoed by other campaign veterans, also described Clinton's recent failures in caucus states as astonishing: "That's where Walter Mondale racked it up against Gary Hart. That's where experience is supposed to count, and Obama's been winning all those caucus states."

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-te.clinton17feb17,0,1052310,full.story
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:55 PM
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1. Don't forget Shaheen and Kerrey
Somebody decided to insert race, she didn't stop it, she is responsible.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:56 PM
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2. I Just Saw A Book On Sale At Borders
http://www.amazon.com/Clinton-Black-America-Dewayne-Wickham/dp/0345450329">"Bill Clinton and Black America". Any thoughts why it might have been in the remainders section?
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 PM
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3. I really don't think Bill ever wanted Hillary to win.
He probably doesn't want another 4 (or 8) years of scrutiny with his dealings in Kazakhstan, the rumors of new affairs and various other issues we won't ever know about.

Every time he has opened his mouth, he's damaged her chances. Bill's too smart for those to be all accidents - I think he's been sabotaging her campaign all along and he has a subconscious desire to stay away from the White House.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:02 PM
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4. Give me a break
After Obama won Iowa and was polling so well in New Hampshire, African Americans realized that Obama had a real shot at becoming President. That's why they voted for him in overwhelming numbers. If I had been an African American in South Carolina, I would have done the same thing.

If Obama had been white, then South Carolina African Americans would have supported Bill's statements and voted for Hillary because African Americans did better economically when Bill was President than before or after.

It wasn't what Bill said; it was that Obama made African Americans realize that one of their own could be President.

The same thing happened when JFK ran and Catholics voted for him.

The same thing happened when Carter ran and Georgians voted for him.

The same thing would have happened if Mitt had won the nomination; Mormons would have voted for him.

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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:03 PM
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5. Bull. The Clintons were simply answering questions and their
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:03 PM by anamandujano
answers were mischaracterized as provocative and racist. The MSM helped Obama by continuing to run with the story.

Whoever these people are, they haven't been paying attention and they certainly aren't helping Hillary by speaking like this.

Looks like the effect of more arm twisting by the Obama camp.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:08 PM
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6. She Penned the campaign
Too much media, not enough organizing. Too much "strategy" and not enough logistics. Pretty amazing when you're the frontrunner.
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