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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 02:33 AM
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Larry C. Johnson: Obama supporters, how will he defuse Rezko, Ayers & Khaladi?
Obama's mantra, "Yes, We Can" is inspiring and heartwarming, but in the end is an empty phrase that will founder once the Republican political attack machine spins up. I realize that most Obamatons are so wedded to his vision of hope that any effort to point out the cracks in the foundation of the new Democratic Savior are met with fury and disdain.

If you think for a minute that the Republican party--who used Willie Horton on Michael Dukakis to devastating effect, who portrayed triple amputee and veteran Max Cleland as a bosom buddy of Osama Bin Laden, and convinced many voters that decorated combat veteran John Kerry was a fraud--will give Obama a pass come the fall then you are in serious denial.

But, unlike the attacks on Dukakis, Cleland, and Kerry, the ammunition that Obama has provided to his political foes is significant and deadly. But try telling that to Obama disciples. You get name calling and character assassination (just read the reaction to this piece)....

Obama's untested achilles heel is his relationship with three men--Tony Rezko, William Ayers, and Rashid Khalidi. These names will become shorthand for Corruption, Terrorism, and the Destruction of Israel. Oh yes, I know. I am going to extremes. Well, let me lay out the facts and explain how the Republicans will likely use these relationships to bludgeon Obama's Presidential aspirations into dust. My challenge to you Obama supporters is to explain to me and other readers of this blog how Obama will defuse these issues.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/larry-c-johnson/no-he-cant-because-yes_b_87036.html?view=print
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:15 AM
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1. Hillary has SO MUCH MORE baggage than Barack
it's just foolish to try to compare it like this
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:28 AM
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5. Guess what? That's not going to matter to anyone anymore.
Once Obama has the nomination, the cries of "Hillary has more baggage!" and "Hillary does it too!" will mean n-o-t-h-i-n-g.

Hillary will not be the nominee. Hillary will be under no obligation to you, me, or the Man in the Moon.

Attacks on Hillary will be moot.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:41 AM
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15. Point being, she should not get the nomination.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:45 AM
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20. It will be easier for Barack
Than it will be for Hillary....that's for sure.

Here are some of her problems. How will she diffuse them, is my question?

Hope the op writer can help us on this!


THE DONOR
Norman Hsu, Hong Kong "apparel executive."


THE GREEN
Hsu bundled more than $850,000 for Hillary's presidential campaign and $260,000 for Clinton's Senate races.


THE SCANDAL
Hsu parlayed his charming, obsequious personality into a spot as one of the top twenty Democratic fund-raisers nationwide. Problem is, he turned out to be a convicted felon, on the lam since 1992 due to a grand theft conviction. Then, this December, Hsu was indicted for running a pyramid scheme that defrauded investors out of at least $20 million and that made $25,000 a year in fraudulent political donations.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR (on a scale of 1 to 10, with 1 somewhat sleazy and 10 stupendously so)
8. Hsu missed his initial (September 5) court date for the 1992 grand theft charge, only to be apprehended a day later on a train in Colorado; he was "freaked out," shirtless, shoeless, and holding a suitcase packed with Tiffany jewelry and $7,000 in cash. Now in federal custody, he confessed to running "phony" companies and leaning on investors to make political donations.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS (on a scale of 1 to 10)
7. Extensive Hsu coverage stretched out over several news cycles during Hillary's presidential campaign, and the sordid details of the affair--the pyramid schemes, the links to Asian gangs, the eccentric professional con artist himself--stirred up memories of Clinton fund-raising scandals past. Hillary blamed the fiasco on errors in the donor-screening process.


**


THE DONOR
Marc Rich, fugitive American businessman; Denise Rich, songwriter and socialite.


THE GREEN
Denise Rich contributed $70,000 to Hillary's Senate campaign and $450,000 to the Clinton presidential library fund.


THE SCANDAL
Over seventeen years after Marc Rich fled to Switzerland to avoid charges of racketeering, illegal trading, and tax evasion (he owed $48 million), Bill Clinton pardoned Rich during his last moments in the White House. His ex-wife Denise's generous donations and Friend of Bill status gave the pardon a particularly rotten stench.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7.5. Rich has been accused of a long list of white-collar crimes. The classiest: trading with Iran while the country was still holding U.S. hostages.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
9.5. As Hillary began her career in the Senate, a media frenzy and investigations in both houses of Congress and the Justice Department were launched to see if Denise's contributions bought her ex-husband's pardon. Though the president was never indicted for wrongdoing, the Rich affair is often mentioned as Exhibit A of Clintonian sliminess.


**


THE DONOR
Aaron Tonken, former Hollywood fund-raiser, current federal penitentiary inmate in California.


THE GREEN
In 2000 he hosted a fund-raiser that took in more than $1 million for Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.


THE SCANDAL
Tonken originally drew interest from the FBI for failing to report some donations from the event to the FEC. Although he was never charged for election-law violations, in 2003 he pleaded guilty to stealing from charities, including, according to an ABC News report, the Betty Ford clinic. He is currently serving a five-year sentence for mail and wire fraud.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
9. The self-described con man got his start in Hollywood as Zsa Zsa Gabor's dog keeper. He sold stories about her to tabloids and snuck tourists into her dilapidated, dog feces-ridden mansion while she was out of town. In his memoir, King of Cons, Tonken wrote, "In a land of moral imbeciles, I knew I could be king."


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
4. A fund-raising committee for Hillary Clinton's 2000 campaign had to pay $35,000 in fines to the FEC for underreporting the costs of the gala, even though a federal inquiry failed to find any culpability on the Clintons' part. The financial burden to the Clinton campaign was insignificant--the real harm done was in the image of guilt by association.


**


THE DONOR
Peter F. Paul, renaissance man, jack of all trades.


THE GREEN
He co-hosted the 2000 fund-raiser with Tonken.


THE SCANDAL
How did Paul underwrite the gala? According to The Washington Post, by improperly borrowing more than $4 million from Merrill Lynch. Shortly after that was discovered, Paul hopped a plane to Brazil and spent years waging a two-front war: fighting extradition and trying to sue Hillary for underreporting the value of the event. In 2003, Paul was extradited to the U.S., and Clinton agreed to pay a $35,000 fine to the Federal Election Commission.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
9.5. You've gotta give this guy credit for flamboyance. According to The Washington Post, Paul's laundry list of crimes includes a 1970s plot to sell $8.75 million worth of nonexistent coffee beans to Fidel Castro--the plan was to sink an empty cargo ship before it reached Cuba so he could keep the cash. In 1979, he was imprisoned for fraud and cocaine possession, then later violated parole, reportedly fleeing to Canada with a dead man's identity. After his release from prison in the '80s, he served as partner and manager to Fabio.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
4. Hillary offered the same explanation for missing Paul's criminal background as she gave for missing Norman Hsu's: technical errors in the vetting process. It worked--by 2008, most Americans have forgotten about Peter F. Paul.


**


THE DONOR
Sant S. Chatwal, founder of Bombay Palace restaurants.


THE GREEN
In 2000, Chatwal hosted a half-million dollar fund-raiser for Clinton in New York. In 2007, he declared his intentions to raise $5 million for Hillary's presidential campaign.


THE SCANDAL
According to The Washington Post, as of September 2007, The IRS was pursuing him for $4 million in back taxes, the State of New York for another $5 million, and the FDIC is suing himin connection with a failed bank venture. The Post wrote, "Yet none of the legal and financial woes--occasionally touched on in American or Indian newspapers or highlighted by political opponents--raised red flags inside Hillary Clinton's fund-raising operation."


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
4. Though Chatwal's legal troubles span several suits and two continents (he's also been charged with bank fraud in India), his alleged crimes lack the color and imagination of, say, a Peter F. Paul.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
1. So far, none. But if any of the lawsuits against him come to a head during election season, the timing would be awful for Clinton.


**


THE DONOR
International Profit Associates (IPA), an Illinois-based management consulting and business development company.


THE GREEN
Bill Clinton pocketed $125,000 for addressing IPA workers in December 2001. The Chicago Sun-Times reported that firm employees have forked over nearly $130,000 in contributions to Hillary's Senate campaigns since 2000.


THE SCANDAL
IPA has faced a string of scandals--most notably, a widely reported sexual harassment suit involving 113 former female employees. Two of them told their stories on a 2005 episode of "Oprah Winfrey Show."


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
8.5. The harassment suit included accusations that the CEO offered money to a female employee in exchange for sex and that a sales manager would pin female employees up against the wall and ask if they enjoyed intercourse.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
3. Though never a large-scale national scandal, it doesn't look good that Hillary has, in effect, shrugged off what the lead attorney for the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (the federal agency leading the investigation) called one of the "most egregious case of sex harassment that the Chicago district office has seen." Senator Clinton--unlike other politicians who received campaign donations from IPA employees, such as Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich and Wisconsin Governor Jim Doyle--has opted not to return the contributions.


**


THE REELECTION FUND-RAISING FIASCO

The tangled web of scandals associated with the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign in 1996 led to hearings by a Senate committee led by Fred Thompson. Though Thompson's hearings are widely considered to have been a bust, several unsavory characters came to light.



THE DONOR
Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie, Taiwanese-Arkansan restaurateur-turned-fund-raiser.


THE GREEN
Trie funnelled more than $2.2 million, much of it from foreign corporate donors, to the DNC from 1994-1996 and helped pay $460,000 of the Clintons' legal bills between 1994-1997.


THE SCANDAL
Trie, who knew Clinton from his days as the owner of the Fu Lin restaurant in Little Rock, moved to Washington in 1994 and began donating to the Clintons and the DNC through various shady channels, including through "straw donors," typically poor legal immigrants who stand in for foreign businesspeople.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7. Trie was notorious for peddling access to President Clinton. Most distressingly, he set up a White House coffee klatch with a Chinese arms dealer.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
7. Trie earned the dubious distinction of being the first Clinton donor indicted during the Justice Department's 1997 campaign finance investigation.


**


THE DONOR
John Huang, businessman and Commerce Department official under the Clinton administration from 1993 to 1995.


THE GREEN
He raised $3.4 million for the DNC in 1996. Most of it has since been returned.


THE SCANDAL
In 1996 Huang solicited an illegal donation of $250,000 from a company in South Korea, as well as $425,000 from donors whose U.S. citizenship was an issue of contention. He also co-organized a 1996 fund-raising event at the Hsi Lai Temple in Southern California, where monks and nuns under an oath of poverty mysteriously contributed large sums of money to the DNC. It was later revealed that they were reimbursed for their donations by the church, and the money had to be returned.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7.5. Thompson's committee suggested darkly that Huang may have been acting as an "agent of influence" for China, though the committee ultimately had scant evidence supporting the plot.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
8. Considerable. Though the money he raised was primarily for the DNC, Huang had remarkable access to the president and the West Wing. The Commerce Department even gave him a top-secret security clearance--with a cursory background check far less thorough than normal procedure--when he was still a private citizen.


**


THE DONOR
James Riady, Indonesian banking magnate.


THE GREEN
Riady and his business associates gave more than $700,000 to the Democratic Party between 1991 and 1997. They also paid $100,000 to Clinton friend Webster L. Hubbell, who resigned from his job as associate attorney general after being charged with tax evasion and mail fraud.


THE SCANDAL
Riady, a regular visitor to the Clinton White House, was busted by the Justice Department in 2001 for funneling foreign corporate money into Clinton's 1992 election effort. (He had to pay out $8.6 million to the DOJ--the largest campaign finance settlement in history.) In 1997, the Thompson-led committee accused Riady of maintaining "a long-term relationship with a Chinese intelligence agency."


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7. Riady was a big fund-raiser for Bill from his Arkansas days, and repeatedly pressed Clinton on sensitive foreign policy issues. Riady was also closely linked to a number of other scandals, including the improper appointment of John Huang (a former manager at Riady's company) and the Hsi Lai Temple fund-raiser (which was organized by Huang).


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
6. In 1997, pre-cigar, William Safire called the Riady affair "the low point of the Clinton Presidency." Still, his name is all but forgotten today.


**


THE DONOR
Johnny Chung, a Taiwan-born, California-based businessman.


THE GREEN
He gave $366,000 in personal and corporate donations between 1994 and 1996. All the money was returned by the DNC.


THE SCANDAL
Chung's contributions to the Democratic Party earned him significant access to the Clinton administration: He made at least 49 visits to the White House between 1994 and 1996. He arranged for five of his Chinese business clients to attend a taping of one of President Clinton's weekly radio addresses after making a $50,000 donation to the DNC. Furthermore, Chung claimed that part of his donated funds came from sources connected to the Chinese government. (The Chinese government emphatically denies the allegations.)


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7. Ick! One radioactively slimy Chung quote: "The White House is like a subway: You have to put in coins to open gates."


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
7. Chung was one of the most recognizable--and damning-- figures in the campaign finance controversy; 49 White House visits will have that effect.



**


THE DONOR
Roger Tamraz, a Lebanese-American businessman.


THE GREEN
Tamraz and his company donated $300,000 to the Democratic Party in 1995 and 1996.


THE SCANDAL
In 1996, Tamraz apparently sought to leverage his donations into a face-to-face meeting with President Clinton over the objections of a National Security Council staff member. Members of the Democratic National Committee, the CIA, and the Clinton administration were all alleged to have gone to bat on Tamraz's behalf to allow him access to the White House. Tamraz then used the meeting to propose a $2.5-billion oil pipeline through Central Asia, a proposal that was then passed on to officials in the Energy Department. (Nothing ever came of it.) He was later a key witness at the Thompson committee hearings.


THE SLEAZE FACTOR
7. Know when your reputation could use a boost? When The New York Times writes sentences about you like this: "Indeed, in describing Mr. Tamraz in testimony on Wednesday and again today, the adjective used most often by lawmakers was 'shady.'" (It didn't help that when Joe Lieberman asked Tamraz at the Senate hearing if he thought he got his "money's worth" for his $300,000 donation, Tamraz replied "I think next time I'll give $600,000.") Also, at the time of his meeting with Clinton, Tamraz was wanted by Interpol for allegedly embezzling hundreds of millions of dollars from a Beirut bank. In a separate case before that, the Times reported, a French court had ordered him to pay $56 million for his role in the collapse of a French bank.


THE DAMAGE TO THE CLINTONS
3.5. Not so bad in the context of the larger scandals. But Tamraz's name continues to surface from time to time, most recently on the best-seller list and the movie marquee. The saga of a man (modeled after Tamraz) using cash to gain access and influence in the White House appeared in former CIA agent Robert Baer's book See No Evil, which served as the inspiration for Syriana.




**


HONORABLE MENTIONS

So many donors, so little time. Here, other donors who have sullied the Clintons' reputation over the years.

Jeffrey Epstein: In 2002, the wealthy money-manager and Friend of Bill flew the former president in his private jet to Africa to discuss AIDS policy. He was recently indicted on charges of soliciting prostitution from underage girls. The Smoking Gun has the gruesome details. (Warning: Link is disgusting.)

John K.H. Lee: The South Korean businessman scored a meeting with President Clinton in 1996 after making a $250,000 donation to the DNC. Under U.S. federal election law, foreign companies and individuals are not permitted to make donations, but Lee tried to skirt the restriction by donating via a U.S. subsidiary of his company, which, problematically, didn't really exist. When it was discovered in September 1996 that the money had originated from Lee's South Korea-based parent company, the DNC returned the contribution.

Pauline Kanchanalak: Kanchanalak, a business executive and Democratic fund-raiser who met frequently with President Clinton, was sentenced to six months of house arrest in 1996 for funneling $690,000 of foreign contributions to the DNC. She claimed the money came from her in-laws.

Ng Lap Seng: The businessman and owner of Macau's Fortuna Hotel (per The Washington Post, "known as much for its prostitutes working the lobby as for its floor show of whip-wielding, leather-clad dancers upstairs") wired more than one million dollars to convicted Clinton donor Charlie Trie between 1994 and 1996 through a company the two co-owned--nearly a quarter of that money ended up in the DNC's hands. Ng attended DNC events and met with the Clintons at the White House.

Abdul Rehman Jinnah: According to the Los Angeles Times, this Pakistani immigrant raised more than $45,000 for Hillary Clinton's HillPac, allegedly reimbursing employees who contributed to Democratic causes, including Clinton's political action committee, which is illegal. He fled to Pakistan after a grand jury indicted him for violations of election law in 2006, and was placed on the FBI "featured fugitives" list. He returned to the U.S. last year.

Ron Burkle: He's never been accused of any crimes, but Ron Burkle lies at the center of any innuendo about Bill Clinton's post-presidential life. A much-commented-upon May 2006 New York Times article stated, "Mr. Clinton is rarely without company in public, yet the company he keeps rarely includes his wife. Nights out find him zipping around Los Angeles with his bachelor buddy, Ronald W. Burkle." The zippy Burkle, friends with Bill since 1992, often flies the former president in his private Boeing 575, described by Clinton as "Ron Air" and "Air Force Two." Burkle, also reportedly a "longtime friend" of Michael Jackson, has thrown lavish fund-raisers for Hillary at Green Acres, his Hollywood estate. Rumors abound about the supermarket billionaire's private life. "Page Six" covered Bill's bachelor buddy unfavorably, writing that he used the jet to entertain young models--and that he was dating Gisele Bundchen. Burkle then made headlines by secretly recording an alleged extortion attempt by a reporter for the gossip column. He has also been accused of using his influence as a Democratic donor to speed a law through the California legislature that would have kept the records of his messy divorce proceedings sealed.

Bill Clinton has been a senior advisor to Burkle's Yucaipa Cos. since early 2002. Clinton is only now trying to untangle himself from the company, a move that will simultaneously free him from questions about Yucaipa's ties to Dubai, while also netting a reported $20 million payday. One particularly shady deal Clinton's scheduler helped Yucaipa arrange was its investment in Catholic Church properties at the urging of a young Italian businessman named Raffaello Follieri. As The Wall Street Journal reported last fall, in 2005, Follieri intimated to Clinton aide Douglas Band that Yucaipa could make a killing on the deal--and that his ties to the Vatican would smooth the transaction. Yucaipa plowed as much as $100 million into the venture, and Band was paid a $400,000 "finder's fee" by Follieri. The Italian then spent Yucaipa's cash on an apartment in New York, private jets, and gifts for himself and his girlfriend, The Devil Wears Prada star Anne Hathaway. Burkle is currently suing Follieri for misappropriating at least $1.3 million.
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=076fd56f-4aca-4683-a9d1-3c55d748946e&k=60222



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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:48 AM
Response to Reply #15
23. Not the point at all.
Johnson is asking how Obama is going to address these issues "once the Republican political attack machine spins up."

It's a valid question -- no matter how unpopular it is on DU.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:27 AM
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65. More perhaps, deadlier No. Better a pant suit than 2 law suits./nt
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 08:27 AM by Iceburg
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:31 AM
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66. Hillary's baggage is right out in the public eye. Obama's is
hidden. No one will vet him before it is to late. The R's are just stock piling and waiting for a clear shot once Hillary is out of the way. Why will the MSM vet Obama? Hint: Rove Machine said hold fire till Hillary is out. Obama will be down so fast once uncle karl gives the ok to shoot, we won't know what hit us! Get a clue, please.
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:24 AM
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2. And how did the Clintons make those millions? He'd better take a look at their kettle first.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:26 AM
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3. Get it off your chest, now. Whitewater? What scandal would you like to talk about.
Since you have no answers for the questions about Obama.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:30 AM
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8. How about sweeping ALL of the Bushes crimes under the Oval Office rug....
Which if Hillary is elected will be more of the same.

Taking Care of Business.

Her campaign song she chose kinda says it all.


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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 AM
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12. Irrelevant as soon as O gets the nom.
See post #5.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:45 AM
Response to Reply #12
19. I'll take my chances with Obama
He only has a carry on bag, while the Clinton's baggage could fill a cargo plane.


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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:49 AM
Response to Reply #19
24. Again, that's not the point of Johnson's question.
Come on, I know your reading comprehension is much better than that.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:07 AM
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Bully on you, I didn't read it to begin with, I've done my own extensive research
I probably uncovered some things I haven't seen anywhere else. I even comtemplated posting it here on DU, but I thought better of it.

Why would I want to give that information to the Dark-Side?.?.?

I've never thought it was a good idea to expose our candidates misdeeds. Just makes it easier for opposition researchers.

Why make their job any easier?.?.?


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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:07 AM
Response to Reply #24
40. Delete DUPE
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:09 AM by MagickMuffin
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:09 AM
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41. 'I didn't read it to begin with'
:silly:
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:50 AM
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25. But what will happen when he gets the nom and the shit hits the fan?
That's the point of this.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:30 AM
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10. The one where Hillary had Ron Brown's secret love child...
...adopted it out to Vince Foster, and then... well, you know the rest.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:31 AM
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:34 AM
Response to Reply #11
14. LOL! You joined last week and you are calling people trolls?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:35 AM by Bluebear
:rofl:

Larry C. Johnson is CEO and co-founder of BERG Associates, LLC, an international business-consulting firm that helps multinational corporations and financial institutions identify strategic opportunities, manage risks, and counter threats posed by terrorism and money laundering.

Mr. Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism, is a recognized expert in the fields of terrorism, aviation security, crisis and risk management.

Mr. Johnson has analyzed terrorist incidents for a variety of media including the Jim Lehrer News Hour, National Public Radio, ABC's Nightline, NBC's Today Show, the New York Times, CNN and the BBC. He was even employed as a Fox News Contributor during 2002. Mr. Johnson has authored several articles for publications, including Security Management Magazine, the New York Times, and The Los Angeles Times. He has lectured on terrorism and aviation security around the world, including the Center for Research and Strategic Studies at the Ecole Polytechnique in Paris, France. He represented the U.S. Government at the July 1996 OSCE Terrorism Conference in Vienna, Austria.

From 1989 until October 1993, Larry Johnson served as a Deputy Director in the U.S. State Department’s Office of Counter Terrorism. He managed crisis response operations for terrorist incidents throughout the world and he helped organize and direct the US Government’s debriefing of US citizens held in Kuwait and Iraq, which provided vital intelligence on Iraqi operations following the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Mr. Johnson also participated in the investigation of the terrorist bombing of Pan Am 103. Under Mr. Johnson’s leadership the U.S. airlines and pilots agreed to match the US Government’s two million-dollar reward.

From 1985 through September 1989 Mr. Johnson worked for the Central Intelligence Agency. During his distinguished career, he received training in paramilitary operations, worked in the Directorate of Operations, served in the CIA’s Operation’s Center, and established himself as a prolific analyst in the Directorate of Intelligence. In his final year with the CIA he received two Exceptional Performance Awards.

Mr. Johnson is a member of the American Society for Industrial Security. He taught at The American University’s School of International Service (1979-1983) while working on a Ph.D. in political science. He has a M.S. degree in Community Development from the University of Missouri (1978), where he also received his B.S. degree in Sociology, graduating Cum Laude and Phi Beta Kappa in 1976.

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Some "troll"!
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:44 AM
Response to Reply #14
17. You know what that usually means.
Somebody's been in the sock drawer.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 AM
Response to Reply #17
31. Don't be too fast to jump to conclusions
No, I'm not anyone else's sockpuppet, and though I support Obama quite openly I'm not part of his campaign organization either. I have written a few letters and emails on behalf of his candidacy and made some small donations. I've also been a volunteer for the Kucinich campaign in 2004 and for a Green party candidate for SF mayor in 2003.

And with that, you can draw your own conclusions about my politics.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:00 AM
Response to Reply #17
37. 'You get name calling and character assassination (just read the reaction to this piece)'
Johnson must be psychic.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:22 AM
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51. Or possibly just predictable.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:52 AM
Response to Reply #14
26. Yes, I am.
I call it trolling because I've seen multiple threads on here already today that are nothing more than cut'n'pastes of the same article. And I'm calling your reposting of it trolling, not Larry Johnson's writing of the column in the first place. I really don't care what you think of the join date. I've been reading DU for over a year and discussing politics over the internet since 1992. So my skin is plenty thick, and I've seen off thousands of cut'n'paste artists like yourself.

When you write, say, a reasoned criticism of why Obama's interview with the Chicago Sun-Time in November 2006 ( http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/124171,CST-NWS-obama05.article ) doesn't satisfactorily answer your questions, then we can have a real conversation. But I guess it's easier to repeat slurs than admit you were taken in by them.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 AM
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30. I don't particularly care for a 'real conversation' with someone as rude as you, frankly.
Ciao.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:00 AM
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36. Anything to save you the effort of a substantive discussion!
Funny, people who make out that Rezko is a big deal disappear every time I post that link. I'm starting to sense a pattern here!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:03 AM
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38. I don't come to DU to discuss anything with boors. Ciao!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:13 AM
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44. Oooh, I'm being dismissed. The shame!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:16 AM
Response to Reply #44
46. Nah, just put on ignore.
Do me the favor and do the same for me, since I am such a troll. :rofl: Have a nice life!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:20 AM
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50. Sob! I feel so pwned.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:29 AM
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6. See post #5. n/t
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:28 AM
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4. But what about Hilaryyyyyyy?!?!
You know I had to say it. :rofl:

K&R
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:30 AM
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9. Pavlov would have a field day with these people. nt
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:32 AM
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13. Indeed
Say "Obama did XYZ" and watch the drooling begin.
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anamandujano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:44 AM
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16. Actually this thread is full of good ideas on how Obama can debate McCain
when he brings up the topics.

He can keep pointing to Hillary's scandals and mention that his aren't as bad. If McCain questions his qualifications for foreign policy, a great comeback would be that Hillary voted for IWR and never even apologized for it. If he asks about health care, Obama can talk about how terrible Hillary's MANDATE is.

Well, you get the drift. He may be able to get some traction with this strategy.

And of course the old stand by, "You're a racist!"
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:46 AM
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21. Hey, if it works for his supporters,
it may just work for him. :shrug:
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:29 AM
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7. Obama has a cake walk compared to Hillary and her baggage.
If you doubt me, go a googling.
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:45 AM
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18. Yawn, yawn, and yawn.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:47 AM
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22. One of your typically erudite replies
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Unsane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:55 AM
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28. The "Obama hates gays" crowd deserves nothing better.
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:18 AM by Unsane
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 AM
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32. Yeah - that one's pretty worn out.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 AM
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33. Did you hear that, Bluebear? We're a "crowd".



:rofl:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 AM
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35. I'm glad you wrote. This is an excellent chance to put each other on ignore.
Bye!
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:53 AM
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27. Keep spreading the nonesense, this is such crap, read the enclosed link...
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 03:58 AM by still_one


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/29/171056/015/838/445627

The Real Story of Rezko and Obama: 10 Myths Debunked
by JohnKWilson

Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:20:40 PM PST

Note: I'm the author of a new book, Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest, but I'm not part of the Obama campaign.

There’s been a huge amount of misinformation and rumor about Barack Obama’s dealings with Tony Rezko. This is not a new story. At the first Democratic debate in 2007, Brian Williams of NBC asked Obama about his connections to Rezko. The same thing happened on ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos. But it’s a complex set of charges, and a lot of details have been falsely reported on blogs and in the mainstream press.

Here are 10 myths debunked about Obama and Rezko:

JohnKWilson's diary :: ::
Myth #1: Obama did legal work for Rezko

Claim: Hillary Clinton during a debate denounced Obama for "representing your contributor, Rezko, in his slum landlord business in inner city Chicago."

The truth: According to Factcheck.org, "Obama was associated with a law firm that represented the community groups working with Rezko on several deals. There's no evidence that Obama spent much time on them, and he never represented Rezko directly. So it was wrong for Clinton to say he was ‘representing ... Rezko.’ That's untrue."

Myth #2: Obama knew Rezko was a slumlord

Claim: The Chicago Sun-Times reported that in 1997, Rezko’s company failed to turn the heat back on in one of his buildings, while giving $1,000 to Obama’s campaign fund.

The truth: There’s no evidence that Obama knew about problems with Rezko’s buildings. A state senator doesn’t deal with tenant complaints, and the Chicago newspapers never reported on Rezko’s problems as a landlord until after he was indicted. According to the Chicago Tribune, "in the years before 2005, Rezko enjoyed a reputation in Illinois as an up-and-coming, even enlightened entrepreneur with a strong interest in the risky low-income and affordable housing markets." http://www.chicagotribune.com/...

Myth #3: Obama underpaid for his house in a deal with Rezko

Claim: Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass wrote: "Rezko paid more than the asking price for the side lot, and Obama paid less than the asking price for the big house. It’s the Chicago way." Kass claimed that Rezko was "Obama's Real Estate Fairy" and this is "the story of the dream house the Obamas wanted and couldn't quite afford and how the Rezkos helped."

The truth: None of this is true. The seller decided to divide the lot in offering it for sale, not Obama or Rezko. Rezko had paid the list price for his lot, not an excessive amount (as the resale value later proved). The owner reportedly had already been offered $625,000 for the side lot, so Rezko didn’t offer any more money and there was no way Obama could have gotten a special deal this way. The only special arrangement Rezko provided was selling the two lots on the same day, which simplified matters for the seller. Obama paid $1.65 million for a house originally priced at $1.95 million. His was the higher of two bids for the main property. It’s not unusual at all in the Chicago real estate business to see a 15 percent price cut on an expensive house that’s been on the market for four months. Nor is it unusual that a vacant lot next door would sell to a condo developer without such a discount. In the Hyde Park market, there are a lot of upper-middle-class residents making six figures, but not very many millionaires (it’s not Lincoln Park or the Gold Coast). Therefore, a pricey mansion is very difficult to sell, while a $300,000 townhouse is very common.

Myth #4: Rezko’s lot was a front (yard) deal

Claim: One blogger declared it was "a $925,000 favor to a sitting US Senator" because "the Rezko property was never intended to be a separate piece of land."

The truth: It’s insane to think that Obama arranged for Rezko to buy the lot as his front yard, and never intended for anyone to develop it. If Obama had arranged such a deal, it would be crazy for him to spend $104,500 to buy part of the land from Rezko. There is not even the slightest evidence to support this notion.

Myth #5: Obama underpaid (or overpaid) for the slice of Rezko’s lot

Claim: John Kass declared: "Obama’s appraiser told him the fair market value of that slice was $40,500. Since that’s one-sixth of the Rezko side, it means Rezko paid $625,000 for property that was actually worth $243,000. That would make Rezko a complete fool. But he’s no fool." Fox News Channel incorrectly reported that Rezko "sold half that lot to Obama for 1/3 its original value."

The truth: The appraiser was clearly wrong (probably basing the low value on the fact that 1/6th of the lot was too small for any house, which would dramatically reduce its value standing alone). That’s why Obama decided to buy 1/6th of Rezko’s lot for 1/6th of what Rezko paid for it ($104,500). A year after the 10-foot-wide strip of land was sold to Obama, a Rezko business associate bought the rest of the lot for $575,000, resulting in a profit for the Rezkos of $54,000 from the two land sales. This sale proved that Obama paid fair market value for his portion of the land.

Myth #6: Obama hasn’t returned all the money linked to Rezko’s donations

Claim: The Chicago Sun-Times accused Obama of downplaying the $50,000–$60,000 in donations he received from Rezko (Rezko, before his legal troubles started, had cohosted a fundraiser for Obama). The newspaper claimed the actual amount was $168,000.

The truth: The Sun Times came up with that figure by counting every donation to Obama from anyone ever associated with Rezko, even if there was no evidence Rezko prompted the donation. Obama donated additional money to charity, but he’s under no obligation (legal or even moral) to return every dollar ever linked to Rezko. If you play a game of "six degrees of separation" with Rezko, he’s linked to almost every politician in Chicago.

Myth #7: Rezko had a special relationship with Obama

Claim: The Clinton campaign denounces "Sen. Obama's 17-year relationship with the indicted influence peddler."

The truth: Rezko attached himself to lots of politicians. Rezko donated money to every major Democratic politician in Illinois, then helped organize a $3.5 million fundraiser for President George W. Bush in 2003. After giving large campaign donations to Democratic Illinois governor Rod Blagojevich, Rezko arranged to have his buddies appointed by Blagojevich to state boards such as the Teachers’ Retirement System Board and the Illinois Health Facilities Planning Board. With his friend Stuart Levine, Rezko threatened to hold up a $220 million deal to invest teachers’ pension fund money unless $2 million was paid to Levine or $1.5 million was donated to Blagojevich’s campaign. Rezko and Levine also demanded a $1 million cut from a developer to build a hospital. Rezko was indicted for pretending to sell his Papa John’s pizza restaurants while secretly maintaining control of them, and fraudulently using the transaction to get $10 million in loans. It is Blagojevich, not Obama, who did favors for Rezko. Rezko’s eye for scouting political talent was amazing, but he did not capitalize on Obama’s influence. Obama said he had known Rezko for twenty years and "he had never asked me for anything. I’ve never done any favors for him."

Myth #8: Obama did favors for Rezko

Claim: Chicago Sun-Times revealed that in 1998, Obama wrote a letter endorsing a low-income housing development for which Rezko was a codeveloper. As the Sun-Times put it, "NOT A FAVOR? As a state senator, he went to bat for now-indicted developer’s deal." Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass wrote, "No favors? When you transcend politics and walk on water, I guess it all depends on what your definition of favor is."

The truth: The common definition of a favor in this context is a political action done in exchange for donations. Rezko’s lawyer reported that Rezko had not asked Obama to write the letter. Instead, Obama (along with a local state representative and an alderman) endorsed the project because it had widespread community support. It’s difficult to imagine any politician on the south side of Chicago who wouldn’t have a routine letter written to endorse government funding for affordable housing and social services for low-income senior citizens in that area. When it came to political influence, Obama didn’t do any favors for Rezko. The Chicago Tribune reported, "when Rezko pushed for passage in Springfield of a major gambling measure, Obama vocally opposed it."

Myth #9: Obama should have known about Rezko’s sleazy background

Claim: The Chicago Tribune, although endorsing Obama, wrote: "His assertion in network TV interviews last week that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing strains credulity: Tribune stories linked Rezko to questionable fundraising for Gov. Rod Blagojevich in 2004."

The truth: At the time Obama bought his house, there was no public indication of Rezko’s problems. When Obama bought a small strip of Rezko’s land in 2006, rumors were swirling around Chicago that the federal government was investigating Rezko, but he wasn’t indicted until October 2006. The Tribune stories before 2006 reveal that Rezko was a tightly connected political player, but the evidence of criminal misconduct wasn’t proven.

Myth #10: Obama hasn’t been forthcoming about his mistakes with Rezko

Claim: The Chicago Tribune editorialized, "Obama has been too self-exculpatory."

The truth: Obama has been honest about the mistake he made, and the fact that Rezko was trying to buy future influence with him. Obama declared, "I am the first one to acknowledge that it was a boneheaded move for me to purchase this 10-foot strip from Rezko, given that he was already under a cloud of concern. I will also acknowledge that from his perspective, he no doubt believed that by buying the piece of property next to me that he would, if not be doing me a favor, it would help strengthen our relationship." Obama’s mistake was in allowing the appearance of impropriety. He never actually did anything wrong. And that’s the key issue here.

Despite all of these rumors about Obama and Rezko, none of the evidence indicates any actual wrongdoing. Conservative Republican Tom Bevan called the evidence against Obama "pretty darn weak." Conor Clarke of the New Republic reported that Obama’s real estate deal with Rezko was a "nonscandal." According to Clarke, "journalists have followed the smoke and haven’t found the fire. At that point, accusing someone of something that looks wrong stops making sense."



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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:57 AM
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29. Go ahead and write Larry Johnson about his "nonesense"
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 AM
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34. I just corrected the link refute it for me bud
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:00 AM by still_one
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/29/171056/015/838/445627

and you can take your IWR candidate and push it right into war with Iran via the Kyle/Lieberman Ammendement, but not with MY KIDS


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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:03 AM
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39. I am waiting....
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:10 AM
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43. Yes, who is this "diarist" JohnKWilson?
I would think that people would have heard of Larry Johnson more than this "JohnKWilson". "Wilson" by merely saying such and such isn't true isn't much solace if one can't vet who he is.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:13 AM
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45. are you calling Wilson a liar? did you go to any of the links in that article?
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:15 AM by still_one
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:17 AM
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47. Temper, temper, now. Where did I say he was a liar? I asked who he is.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:22 AM
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52. OK I had to look myself. The author of "Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest"
Grand.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:39 AM
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55. I responded who he was in another post, but the point is the links he refers to are independent
and are not of HIS creation

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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:37 AM
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54. You are right, I lost my cool, sorry BLuebear. He is a writer whose
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 04:41 AM by still_one
articles have appeared in The Nation Magazine, Daily Kos, and other other publications

He is the founder of the blog http://collegefreedom.blogspot.com/ and the author of "Barack Obama: This Improbable Quest" and "Patriotic Correctness: Academic Freedom and Its Enemies."

and yes his bias is toward Barrack, just as Larry Johnson's bias is toward Hillary

but the links in his article are NOT from him, but independt sources







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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:41 AM
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56. OK I will gladly take a look through, thank you for the response
and taking the time to post an opposing view, not just rhetoric. :toast:
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:47 AM
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57. and though I am an Obama supporter, I WILL VOTE FOR WHOEVER the nominee is
and that means if Hillary is the nominee I WILL vote for her WITHOUT hesitation


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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:48 AM
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58. Likewise.
I voted for Edwards in my state's primary before he dropped out. I certainly will vote for our nominee.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:19 AM
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49. But you can vet who he is.
It only took me 5 minutes. And I sure as hell who who the Chicago Sun_times is, so I'm comfortable with the reliability of their interview, as well as their other coverage of the whole Rezko thing.

I keep hearing why this Rezko thing is such a disaster for Obama, though nobody can articulate quite why. Strangely, the same people who claim to be 'worried' about it don't seem to have any problem with, say, Hillary Clinton's long relationship 9and much more significant funding by) Norman Hsu. Because hey never post about what a problem that would be in the GE.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:10 AM
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42. This deserves its own post, still_one. n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:18 AM
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48. Yes it does. I got this from another thread by those trying to perpetuate this slur
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 04:34 AM
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53. Kick.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:00 AM
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59. Obama serves on an anti-poverty board with a guy who 30 year ago was in an organization that
Edited on Sun Feb-17-08 05:01 AM by usregimechange
bombed the pentagon "after calling in bomb-threats and making sure their target buildings were evacuated" (Wiki) to protest the war in Veitnam. Damn, you got us on that one. He may have once been in a grocery store with this guys uncle as well. Is it time to bring up Susan McDougal or should we leave such BS to Rove and co? By the way, what kind of slime do we have on McCain? Did he have sex with midgets in the 1950s?
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:09 AM
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60. Oh, wait, we don't know if McCain had sex with midgets 50 years ago because we are too busy finding
slime on the Dem candidates.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:22 AM
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61. try reading this article
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 05:30 AM
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62. I glanced at it.
And that's just another "debunking the Rezko myths" article.

That's not what Larry Johnson is asking.

Geez, did anyone who's freaking out about this actually read the OP?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:06 AM
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63. There are cracks on your side as well Larry.
Just my opinion (from a Sibel minion and surrogate).
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:23 AM
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64. Vin Gupta: The man the Clintons love - Lincoln Bedroom - Use of Jets - Free Vacations -
http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/may/30vin.htm

Vin Gupta: The man the Clintons love

Aziz Haniffa in Washington, DC | May 30, 2007

(snip)

Vin Gupta, besides being one of the single biggest individual contributors -- whom Kapur by now had coveted and cultivated -- was afforded the honour of introducing Clinton, which he did with rousing gusto.

From then on, Gupta courted the Clintons and in turn, was afforded the opportunity of spending a night in the White House Lincoln Bedroom -- the first Indian American to do so.

As his sustained contributions to the Democrats continued to flow, Clinton offered him the post of first Counsel General to Bermuda and then the Ambassadorship to Fiji, both of which Gupta declined. While he maintained this was for business reasons, it was rumored to be because there were doubts his nomination would be confirmed by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee due to alleged violations of Securities and Exchange Commission rules.

Just before his second term ended, Clinton appointed Gupta as a member to the prestigious Board of Trustees of the John F Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts.

But even with Clinton out of the White House, Gupta's friendship with the now former President grew, and he brought him on as a consultant to infoUSA and, according to the lawsuit, beyond nearly $3 million in consulting fees, had flown the Clintons and himself to Acapulco, Mexico, on a vacation in 2002 and also to Switzerland, Hawaii and Jamaica. He was also said to have provided corporate jets for Mrs Clinton at least seven times since 2002, although it was unclear whether he had done so after she began her Presidential campaign.

***********************

Hillary is the one that ties her tail to Bill's Administration - She and he have not opened the Clinton Library to records that might tell us more of her dealings with outsourcing to India thousands of jobs that were once done in the U.S.

:hide:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:10 AM
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68. OK, then maybe we need to be thinking of Gore again.
Can you answer anything without saying "Clinton did it too"? Maybe BOTH remaining candidates will have trouble in the GE?

Do you have any answers for teh OP?
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 08:35 AM
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67. Mark Rich, White Water, Johnny Chung oh and REZKO:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:31 AM
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69. and Epstein and Burkle and Kazahk dictator....
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 11:40 AM
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70. The Larry Johnson who gave us this vile crap
In the meantime, we have to watch the equivalent of a papal coronation, as the media and fans exhult in the Obama Messiah, the black Jesus come to save us. But sometime in the next four months, the excitement will fade as the reality of who Obama is comes out.

<...>

Now I know Obamaphiles will simply bend over and stick their head in their neighbor's ass and proclaim the putrid aroma as the heaven-sent breath of God. They will say this means nothing and is just carping.


link

He's a disgusting asshole!

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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 09:47 PM
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71. Reality is going to hit the fan when the two nominees are decided.
The Democratic primary "victories" seemed to have over-inflated a lot of egos -- the "greatest" page is a testament to that. The big guns won't be brought out until the two nominees have been declared.
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