I thought Hillary gave a great speech tonight. Obama followed her at WI Founders Day event:

[rodeodance]

Tammy Baldwin and Barb Lawton, the Lt. Gov of WI introduced her. She started off slow talking about incidents with people she meet today in WI-their problems with health care and the mortgage problems

“Lets get real”—about Energy policy (green job-creation, education (get rid of NCLB, ect ). “I WILL END THE UNFUNDED MANDATE OF NCLB!”--she said this 3 months ago!

“547,000 people in WI without Health care Insurance!”!--its a MORAL imperative to make sure ALL people have Health insurance.

"change is going to happen"--need the right kind of change"

She focused running against the Repugs. I really did not catch any dissing of Sen. Obama.

Obama on the other hand was defensive—(IMHO). He brought up many things that he said people are worried about –like empty rhetoric. What is hope.

Anyway thoughts?

[rodeodance]

1. BTW--Tammy Baldwin, Dem, WI is her co-chair along with Barb in WI

[k8conant]

2. ...the right KINK of change indeed!

Hers are the words that are cheap. Yes--change is going to happen but not by voting in her tired old ways and rhetoric.

[rodeodance]

4. I edited. thanks

[rodeodance]

6. Tired?--now she looked spunky tonight.

[NJSecularist]

3. Apparently you didn't hear the LT Gov throwing barbs at Senator Obama.

[rodeodance]

5. they were soft little whispers.

[rodeodance]

7. I did not like the music btw.

[BenDavid]

8. HRC gave reason through her words why she is the better

person to be the nominee and the president. Did not watch obama because you can usually recite what he will say and how he will say it. If obama is the nominee the democratic party will be set back for another 8 years....we had this election until the might obama decided he had to save us all.....







If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, "Let us go after other gods"- which you have not known - "and let us serve them," you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams........

[rodeodance]

9. I admit I had him on in the background. just perked up once in a while.

[MadBadger]

12. IF you only had him on in the background, than how can you make an honest review of his speech

Answer: You're not honest.

[rodeodance]

15. I will contribute to the part that I heard. simple as that.

IF you only had him on in the background, than how can you make an honest review of his speech
Posted by hnmnf


Answer: You're not honest.

[Thrill]

10. How many times are you going to post the same BS?

Set the party back, Set the party back. You're like a damn broken record

[k8conant]

11. You keep saying the same things about Obama stealing this election

from Hillary. I always know what Clinton will say because she's made up the stuff recently and has to keep saying it to herself so she knows what she means.

I have trouble watching her now that I always seeing her literally going through the motions that Stephen Colbert called "Clap clap point point".

[rodeodance]

14. I hear Colbert is a hero but do you get all your news from him and then just replay it here?

[BlackVelvet04]

18. That's not what he's saying at all........

read it again and think about it.

[scheming daemons]

13. Hillary was set to LOSE this election, until Obama stepped in to save the Democratic party from ....

ourselves.


BenDavid.. you have it exactly ass-backwards. Hillary can't win in November. Nominating her would set the Dems back for another four years.

Of the two, Obama is the only hope for the Democratic party to win.

[rodeodance]

16. scheming daemons " you have it exactly ass-backwards."

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13. Hillary was set to LOSE this election, until Obama stepped in to save the Democratic party from ....

ourselves.


BenDavid.. you have it exactly ass-backwards. Hillary can't win in November. Nominating her would set the Dems back for another four years.

Of the two, Obama is the only hope for the Democratic party to win.

[NoodleyAppendage]

17. "Yes, We Will...Yes, We Will...Yes, We Will..." LOSE THE GENERAL if Hillary is the nom.

Get comfortable with the prospect of President McCain if you really think Hillary is the best Dem candidate for the general election. NO EVIDENCE supports the claim that she will win with a healthy margin.

J

[rodeodance]

20. FEAR FEAR=== thats right--use the old bush adm trickie--FEAR

[NoodleyAppendage]

23. Which Dem candidate has very high negatives in practically ALL national polls?

Which Dem candidate have the Repukes been putting out there as their "choice" opponent...knowing full well that they can kick her ass?

Fear has NOTHING to do with it. I'm all about practicality and what it will take for Dems to take back the WH. Hillary is not the practical choice.

J

[rodeodance]

24. seems to me it is BO who gets the good press--so it must be him they want

[Yael]

19. Just think -- in 2 weeks we will have a candidate

and all of the negativity goes away.

w00t!!

[rodeodance]

21. waiting waiting ........

[rodeodance]

22. but I seriously think it will go till JUNE