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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:04 PM
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Let me get this straight. When Hillary leaves WI, she "knows she's going to lose" and "doesn't care
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 10:28 PM by jlake
about all of the states". When Obama leaves WI he is a "brilliant politician" who is going to "get a hero's welcome in Hawaii"

That's not a double standard, is it?
The ardent Obama supporters strike again.
:crazy: :crazy:
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jezebel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:05 PM
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1. Obama is going back to Wisc for a rally Monday night. Is Hillary? NT
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:07 PM
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4. You do realize that a day out of the schedule is a day whether it's Sun-Mon or Mon-Tue.
Or did that slip by your giant and fair brain?
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:05 PM
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2. He is leaving? I believe he is going to working that state through Tuesday. . .
. . .no double standard here, you just have your facts wrong.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:07 PM
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5. He is going to Hawaii tomorrow.
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tandem5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:10 PM
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7. uh oh - his internals must show he's losing a grip on the aloha state!
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:19 PM
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21. lol! That would be the spin if it were the other way around
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:24 PM
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35. That's possible.
I've read that the party controls the caucus and the party supports Hillary. I wonder what he plans on doing there.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:13 PM
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11. No he is not n/t
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:15 PM
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15. Yep. Just confirmed on CSPAN
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:19 PM
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19. Did you even read that thread? The OP misheard. nt
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM
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22. I saw it as well.... it is happening....and even if it wasn't, the reactions prove my point....care
Edited on Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM by jlake
to defend that?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:21 PM
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I hope they both go to wherever they think they'd be most effective.
Now that wasn't so hard.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:22 PM
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30. I think that would be fair - but that is certainly not the reaction from many Obama
supporters.
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wndycty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:24 PM
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36. Dude he will be all over Wisconsin on Monday. . .
Beloit, Madison, Milwaukee, etc. Believe what you want but he is not blowing off Wisconsin like Hillary. Keep spreading lies, ITS WHAT SUPPORTERS OF A DESPERATE CANDIDATE DO!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:06 PM
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3. Amen!
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jkshaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:15 PM
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13. pirhana, I love that little running dog!
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM
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25. Thanks!
I just got a real one and it seems appropriate for my life right now...chasing my busy puppy around, keeping her out of trouble :)
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:08 PM
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6. "Obama, doubling our standards and dividing the populus."
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:10 PM
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8. Another negative bullshit directed at Democrats post?
Wow, incredible. You actually think smear tactics work to the Democrats you support, or Democratic Undergrounds, favor.





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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:12 PM
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10. I think that Obamanation was trying to smear Hillary, and now that he is doing the
same thing they are praising him. That doesn't strike you as a bit odd?

Don't try that schtick with me.
That is the same as Bush saying "If you don't support the war, you hate America"
I can critique and question people's motives and be a GREAT Democrat.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:17 PM
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17. Ok you lost me as soon as you use the word "Obamanation".
This is not schtick, jlake.

You decided the best way to promote your candidate was a foolish nickname.

YOU are playing games with people. If someone you disagree with offends you, you decide the best
way to make your case is you also act like an idiot?

Sorry that is kinda creepy.

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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:19 PM
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20. Sorry from this "Hillbot" or was that "Hillshill"
Tired of the shit from the Obama camp.
Y'all are a bunch of punks who think it is all a game.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:23 PM
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33. I have never used either word, so don't broad brush me, pally.
Now you're calling me names too?

That's a great case you're making for your candidate here.



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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:24 PM
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37. I didn't say you did, but the people that the OP is referring to certainly have. - and worse.
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:27 PM
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40. Did you ever think to yourself that there are people who
are posing on both sides to try to poison the well here at DU?

Rise above that shit, man.

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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:28 PM
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41. Thanks. I have edited out the offensive word.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM
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24. jlake is fighting back against the Obama machine
:thumbsup:
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:25 PM
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39. You call that fighting? Good grief!
You're not winning any hearts and minds with that crap, I'm pretty sure about that.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:11 PM
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9. ummm
Hillary is only going to be there what, 2 1/2 days? Obama will be there, what 7 days, 8 days?

Big difference.

I see Hawaii is another state that Hillary doesn't care about.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:13 PM
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12. Spin me round! Yowza....you're making me dizzy!
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:15 PM
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14. She consistently leaves states she is about to lose. Like S.C., there is a pattern
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:16 PM
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16. So then Obama must be about to lose..... oh, right *he* is a "Brilliant Politician"
y'all don't live in reality.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:18 PM
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18. I don't think he's going to Hawaii...
Hawaii still on Obama's mind and satellite schedule

by John McCormick

EAU CLAIRE, Wis. – This place probably seems a long way from paradise for Sen. Barack Obama.

Still, as the Illinois Democrat campaigned Saturday across Wisconsin in advance of Tuesday's primary, he also was expected to spend some time trying to make sure he locks in the vote in his native Hawaii, which will hold its own caucuses Tuesday.

Obama was scheduled to do four taped satellite interviews with Hawaii television stations Saturday, shortly before he is set to speak at a party fundraising dinner in Milwaukee that will also feature Sen. Hillary Clinton of New York.

Chelsea Clinton appeared in Hawaii on her mother's behalf Friday and was expected to campaign there again today, as Obama's sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, does the same for her brother.

“I guess this is springtime in Eau Claire, huh?” Obama said, speaking to a sunshine-warmed overflow crowd outside a gymnasium at the University of Wisconsin-Eau Claire. “Everybody is feeling all balmy and warm.”

In Hawaii, where the weather is warmer, but the political fight colder, Obama has also been running radio ads that suggest the state has a chance to elect a "native son" president.

more...

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:21 PM
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27. They said it on CSPAN.
That he's going. I don't see it on his schedule.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:20 PM
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23. Have you thought about this at all?
Honestly, I think Hillary made a major mistake with Wisconsin and I said it on Tuesday that passed. I said she should have gone to Wisconsin first. Then TX or Ohio. Being there just 1 day would have helped her symbolically. So she decided to show up on Saturday before the election and stay through Tuesday. Then she changed it to Sunday. It's honestly a mistake. I guess she figures that she's going to lose by a certain amount, and being there isn't going to make a difference.

Considering how disrespectful Hillary's campaign has been about the states she loses, you can't blame people for being cynical.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:21 PM
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26. Back to the topic. Don't you see the double standard?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:21 PM
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28. Not in this case.
And that was my point.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:22 PM
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29. Yeah, your point was BS Spin - not surprised.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:22 PM
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31. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make it BS.
You could be wrong and you are.
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jlake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:23 PM
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34. Same action: Hillary = "going to lose" "hates states". Obama = "Brilliant Politician" "Hero"
Got it!
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:25 PM
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38. Obama has spent the entire week there.
Hillary has been there two days. Now if Hillary wins Wisconsin, I'll say she was brilliant, but I honestly think she made a mistake. And I have never said Obama was a brilliant politician or a hero of mine.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 10:23 PM
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32. Its Obamalogic. Just say it and it makes it so. Its magic.
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