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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:47 PM
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I am a woman, daughter and mother
I am delighted with the fact that I can choose, in this context any candidate, for any reason.

I choose to support Hillary. There are those who say that the only reason I support her is because she's a woman. Is that a factor in my decision? Of course it is. Is it the only, or even the main, reason I support her? No, not even close.

I know many Blacks who do not support Obama, for many reasons. Some do, and they support him for reasons other than race.

I, too, have freedom, just as anyone does, male or female. And that is precious, and hard-fought. We stand on the foundation of many great women who fought for our natural rights. It wasn't that long ago, that although we had the right to vote, that women were expected to vote with their husbands.

I'd like this meme about if you're a woman, and vote for Hillary that's your only issue, to go away. That's the opposite of freedom, and demeans ALL women, not just those of us who are voting for a candidate who happens to be a woman. (And yes, we're loving it.)
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:52 PM
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1. Thank you for this.
That's the bottom line. No one expects women to vote for Hillary just because she's a woman.

And true progressives--men and women--should be offended by the sexism that has been injected into this race, regardless of which candidate they choose to support.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:52 PM
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2. Nice post.
:hi:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:52 PM
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3. Women have never voted as a bloc and there's no reason for them to start now. Thanks. nt
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 06:23 PM
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10. Except of course the chance to redress the imbalance of
several millennia...
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:54 PM
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4. Sounds like your mind is made up.
:applause:
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tyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 04:57 PM
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5. Very nice.
That's pretty much the attitude behind Oprah voting for Obama. She's a free woman and because of that...she's free to vote for her choice.

Thanks for writing that.

As a woman, mother, and grandmother...I appreciate it.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:11 PM
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7. So, too, is this great-grandmother.
Who is called "Grandlady." LOL!



Peace:thumbsup:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:10 PM
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6. is this a geritol ad? Or some kind of ad for a vaccine?
:boring:
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:13 PM
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8. Huh?
What ad? Either I'm missing something profound, or you're not making sense. Did you mean to post on another thread?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 05:14 PM
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9. Sorry...she's not offering those...
you might need to look elsewhere on DU for help with your problems.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:56 PM
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11. I saw your reference to this OP in the other thread.
And I wanted to kick & rec it.

In addition, I want to add something that Skinner said that I've bookmarked that was truly an eye-opener for me:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4202492&mesg_id=4203137

It is not a coincidence that the first viable woman presidential candidate projects an image of centrism and moderation. Just as it is not a coincidence that the first viable African-American presidential candidate projects an image of centrism and moderation. The sad reality is that neither candidate can afford to stray too far from the mainstream, lest they be dismissed as stereotypes.

Hillary Clinton's greatest obstacle to becoming president is NOT the fact that some people see her as moderate. It is the fact that a lot more people (wrongly) see her as a bra-burning, man-hating, pantsuit-wearing "feminazi" who has contempt for women who stay home to "bake cookies and have teas." That is the perception that could sink her candidacy if she makes it to the general election, and she knows it.

The truth is that Hillary Clinton could very well be the woman who smashes through that glass ceiling and gets a major-party presidential nomination. And she may well have to do it without the help of feminists. But women -- and feminists -- will benefit if Hillary Clinton does get the nomination. Some day
a woman WILL be able to run for president as a liberal and a feminist. And she will be free to do so because Hillary Clinton came before her and already made the unfair and unpleasant compromises that she shouldn't have had to make, but did.

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TheDoorbellRang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-17-08 03:59 PM
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12. Agreed n/t
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