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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:09 PM Original message |
As much as it makes me grind my teeth to suggest this, is this a possible MI/FL solution? |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Despite the Clinton hype, there really is no need for a "solution" |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I would ordinarily agree with you |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. except that you are advocating the disenfranchisment of voters |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. "except that you are advocating the disenfranchisment of voters" |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There's that lie again! Hillary was NOT the only candidate |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Oh yeah, Kucinich was on the Mich ballot too |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And Dodd. And Gravel. And Kucinich campaigned here. |
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DJ13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. .......and those matter in what way? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. You are spreading an obvious lie, and I called you on it. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
37. I'm not a Hillary Clinton supporter. Nor am I an Obama supporter. I'll hold my nose and vote for |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. Excuse me, but Florida had a VERY IMPORTANT Amendment on the ballot, concerning |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. Disenfranchisement is OK if it benefits one's chosen candidate. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:08 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. see post #9 |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
11. Once again, we tell FL Dem voters to screw off now, we can write off FL in Nov. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
2. If the Democrats want to avoid this shit in future, they need to |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Amen. I have said this before. It seems the powers that |
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anamandujano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. A thousand time YES! Absolutely nothing has me angrier than this. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. Super delegates need to take FL and MI into consideration |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
7. how would that *not be letting Fl and Mi have their way? |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. A super delegate has one vote, as does any other delegate |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. so Fl would get 210 supers and Mi would get 156 supers ? |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. They can vote as any Super D can. |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. they let everybody know well in advance THIS time |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. As I stated above in #18, Florida and Michigan screwed up |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. 'prevailing wisdom' isn't representation |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Just to clarify, I am an Obama supporter (formerly Edwards, formerly Kucinich) |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
10. Note to IDemo |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Note to WilyWondr |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:03 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. 0.o |
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WilyWondr (380 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Dr. Dean ? |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
40. Here's and idea, you haven't suggested, that would make me and probably other Floridians happy. |
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Hill_YesWeWill (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
26. No, this does NOTHING for the disenfranchised voters |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. yes, it is possible that the only solution is to disenfranchise voters |
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JackintheGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
27. It's been said before, and it will be said again |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Do I have to keep posting what the Democratic Party Charter says....? |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:01 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. actually, it *doesn't say every vote will be counted |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Yeah, I know. I bought into that Democratic bullshit about every vote counting.... |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. sorry... but that's not really what that part says either |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. The nominating process does not take place on your dining room wall... |
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Clovis Sangrail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. nor did the primary election process take place in Fl on 1/29 |
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travelpet (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. That's What the Charter Says...but |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. The "gotcha". |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. No. There is no solution other than abiding by the rules as agreed upon at the beginning. |
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suston96 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Yeah, the rules. Here they are - From the Democratic Party Charter: |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Dean has followed every single one of those rules.. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
46. HELL NO!! In fact, most of them should be denied delegate credentials for doing this. |
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