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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:37 PM Original message |
So, If Obama edges Clinton on pledged delegates, but she wins in the total popular vote |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. And: should they go with the popular/or delegate vote of the nation? Or their state? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't think that's going to be an issue |
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AJH032 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. huh? |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. Here y'go |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #15 |
33. That isn't writing it off. No one says a state is a must-win |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Where did you hear/read that? |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. Let's cross that bridge when/if we come to it |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. the will of the people argument only applies if it benefits obama doncha know? nt |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
6. Then we have a real mess. I say popular vote, either way. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Popular vote of their state? Or of the nation? |
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calteacherguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:43 PM Original message |
Popular vote of nation, excluding Florida and Michigan. |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. Nonsense |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. no they shouldn't |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Florida certainly had a fair vote |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. no they didn't |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Then it applies across the board: it was a fair vote. |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. no it wasn't |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Of course it was. It was fair to all candidates. That you don't like the results |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. they didn't campaign... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. None of them campaigned locally. They all had national attention. It was fair. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. It was the fourth highest turnout of any of the 25-30 primaries/caucuses held this year! |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. they didn't campaign... |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. That makes the voice of 1.7 million folks irrelevant? |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. FL and MI will count in the general |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. We don't need Florida, it's in with the Bushes, always has been. Who needs that. |
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houstontxdem (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Where's the smiley? We need every single vote in the general election |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #46 |
60. what other races/issues were on the ballot...? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. Why the nation rather than their state? |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
37. INCLUDING FL & MICH. Don't discriminate against others |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. funny-My family in Miami voted and they deserve to have their |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
34. Except the will of 1.7 million Floridians and 600,000 Michiganlanders (sp)? |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. LOL. It's "Michiganders" |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
7. what exactly bothers you so much about the "will of the people"? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. I believe in not changing the rules in the middle of the game for political convenience |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Then you are all for not seating the FL and MI delegates |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I've explicity said as much three or four times |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. I have no problem with Super delegates doing what they want |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
53. I agree with rules, however, I think the superdelegate rule is a bad rule |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
8. If it's that close they have to vote their conscience |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Exactly, there will be a lot of hard decisions to be made. |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. MI and FL are a very different story... |
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moobu2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
10. That’s easy |
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lisa58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. no it isn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Deleted message |
Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
59. Mann Coulter? Is that you? |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
13. I would say that she wins then. nt |
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catagory5 (321 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. not at all |
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LaurenG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #19 |
26. Well if the rule is that the person who wins the popular vote is |
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Obamaniac (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. Not going to happen |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. You're not counting MI and FL. |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
17. I believe that to be impossible |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. its very possible... |
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lapfog_1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. I was leaving the super delegates out of the equation |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
25. I hope you don't mind, but I used your msnbc line in an email |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. be my guest |
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PermanentRevolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
32. I say we do it by sack race |
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billyoc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. I'd want the SD's to vote for Sen. Clinton in that case. |
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rinsd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
39. Then we are in a real fucking mess. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-15-08 08:56 PM Response to Original message |
52. I think the conventional (pardon the pun) wisdom is that the world blows up |
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chascarrillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
57. There is no total popular vote. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 01:59 AM Response to Original message |
58. Since there should BE no SD's in the first place, the correct answer is: |
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LordJFT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 02:10 AM Response to Original message |
61. won't happen, there are too many states Clinton thinks "don't count" |
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