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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:42 AM
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Poll question: Who would Al Qaeda support for President in 2004?
Since Al Qaeda would want a reactionary president in order to keep the organization inflamed and unified as well as have optimal conditions to get new members to sign up, who would they prefer and support for US President in 2004?
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:50 AM
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1. They would support the guy that's
too busy going after personal vendettas than to catch them.

George W. Bush.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:50 AM
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2. Just like in Israel they support Sharon and just like Nader --- the worse
things get the happier Nader, Bush, Sharon, Arafat, Fundamentalists of all stripes and Al Qaeda are: they then feel vindicated in their views that violence is the solution and that humanism and progressivism and multiculturalism and culrural/social/political liberalism are the enemies of evil (i.e. them).
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:07 AM
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7. Do you liked to be called a terrorist just because you have a different
view point.do you even bother to care that nader has spent most opf his life making things better? its funny that you mention sharon kerry has defended his apartheid wall.this has gone beyond sick.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:38 PM
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34. Nader is a complete elitist fraud. Its the Princeton in him
which, like the Princeton and Skullery in Dulles, Carlucci, and Rumsfeld, destroyed his humanity and made him a spooky long term blackops professional IMHO.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:55 AM
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3. The fearful chimp, of course.....
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 09:56 AM by webster_green
Their goal is to make us afraid. Smirky re-enforces the fear on a daily basis. He is obsessed with the idea that we should live our lives in constant fear of Al Qaeda.

If they hate us for our freedoms, then ChimpCo Inc. is the obvious choice, as they are taking away our freedoms as quickly as they can.

edited for spelling
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:46 PM
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37. Chimp and Al Quaeda
have a symbiotic relationship. Each one feeds off the other. Each one's power is sustained by the fear and hate generated by the other.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:56 AM
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4. Al Qaeda = CIA
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:02 AM
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6. El Gato = Wrong
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:07 AM
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8. Not entirely wrong....
Osama WAS trained by the CIA.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:19 AM
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10. Not directly
Osama was trained by middlemen during the war against the Soviets. Bin Laden has insisted he didn't know that the CIA was supporting the war, nor is there any reason to believe that the CIA knew of Bin Laden's existence. Its just one of those odd things that proves the law of unintended consequences and that the old dictum, "my enemy's enemy is my friend" is not always apt.
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:17 AM
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15. LOL! mobuto post = denial

until people are willing to face the hard and ugly truth
nothing will change

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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:43 AM
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19. Remember this one? Philippines bomber Michael Meiring
The Meiring Mystery:
“Affront to Philippine sovereignty”
(First Part)
Carolyn O. Arguillas / MindaNews / 30 May 2003

DAVAO CITY-- Exactly a year ago today, May 30, a fuming Mayor Rodrigo Duterte lashed out at the “arrogant” agents of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation for having spirited out of the hospital an American national who nearly lost his life when explosives he owned went off inside his room in a budget hotel on May 16.

“An affront to Philippine sovereignty,” was how Duterte described to the Regional Peace and Order Council (RPOC) what the FBI agents did in getting Michael Terrence Meiring out.

Who was Michael Terence Meiring and why did the FBI get him out? How did he manage to leave the county despite warrants of arrest and hold departure orders? Why hasn't he been returned to this city to face charges of illegal possession of explosives and reckless imprudence despite promises last year by the police and the National Bureau of Investigation? Why doesn’t the Special Anti-Terrorist Unit want to say exactly what kind of explosives went off in Meiring’s hotel room?

http://www.mindanews.com/2003/05/30nws-meiring01.html

---------------------------------------------------------

the Michael Meiring mystery: an agent provocateur in the philippines?
by brian, Thursday August 07, 2003 at 03:55 PM

by Carolyn Aguillas this story shows us the role of the CIA as agent provocateur in asia. This event should call to mind the Lavon affair of 1954

DAVAO CITY-- Exactly a year ago today, May 30, a fuming Mayor Rodrigo Duterte lashed out at the “arrogant” agents of the US Federal Bureau of Investigation for having spirited out of the hospital an American national who nearly lost his life when explosives he owned went off inside his room in a budget hotel on May 16.

“An affront to Philippine sovereignty,” was how Duterte described to the Regional Peace and Order Council (RPOC) what the FBI agents did in getting Michael Terrence Meiring out.

Who was Michael Terence Meiring and why did the FBI get him out? How did he manage to leave the county despite warrants of arrest and hold departure orders? Why hasn't he been returned to this city to face charges of illegal possession of explosives and reckless imprudence despite promises last year by the police and the National Bureau of Investigation? Why doesn’t the Special Anti-Terrorist Unit want to say exactly what kind of explosives went off in Meiring’s hotel room?

http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2003/08/51985.php

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:44 AM
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20. Playing 'Confuse A Cat' Again, Are You, Mr. Mobuto?
That is wicked of you, my friend....

Juxtaposition, parallel interest, and such like, even with occasional geographic proximity, fall far, far short of demonstrating witting co-operation, let alone control and obedience.

Some people, it seems, simply have a problem accepting the United States does not control the world in all its details, and that there are independent actors out there with their own agendas, in some cases including hatred of the United States on the basest grounds of reactionary religious obscurantism conceivable.

"They would believe nothing they could not prove, and could prove anything they believed."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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el_gato Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 12:01 PM
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21. some people have a problem looking past propaganda

no matter how much evidence is out there

no matter how many contradictions in the official story

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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 12:08 PM
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22. That Would Certainly Be Me, Mr. Gato
My ignorance and lack of perspicacity are legend in these precincts....

"Kufr is at war with Islam. Islam is at war with Kufr."

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:48 PM
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35. Ummm - baloney?
Is saying that's baloney allowed?

Osama and the Bin Ladens are Saudis (via Yemen) who were completely connected to BCCI, the Bushes, the CIA and the BFEE.

To claim that the CIA and BFEE had no idea about him is simple horse dooky
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Mattforclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:58 AM
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5. Dubya, of course
Why would he want a democrat in office, with Wesley Clark probably holding some position like NSA or secstate, or maybe even VP? He would actually be in trouble then.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:10 AM
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9. selfdelete
Edited on Fri Mar-12-04 10:22 AM by corporatewhore
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:03 AM
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11. Bush and OBL - A socially dysfunctional, mutually co-enabling couple.
The "War on Terror" seems to only benefit these 2 men.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:06 AM
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12. Ralph Nader, the Osama bin Laden of American Politics?
Who knows?
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:09 AM
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13. uh no.
Bad comparison -

I don't like Ralph but he never murdered or bankrolled the murder of 3000+ people.

People on this board FREAK OUT when any Democrat is compared to Usama but it's okay apparently if they are of another party or an independent.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:33 AM
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17. Fair enough
I think of Nader as a political terrorist, but obviously he's not anything like Osama bin Laden.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:35 AM
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18. hes been a political terrorist most of his life
well in the view of big corporations
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Ficus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 01:47 PM
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24. one man's terrorist
is another man's freedom fighter.
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mobuto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:55 PM
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27. And of course, that man is none other
than President George W. Bush, who owes his healthy salary and life-time pension to the freedom-fighting of Mr. Nader.
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corporatewhore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:24 PM
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29. what about kathrine harris jebster and diebold
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:12 AM
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14. Easy

OR

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eissa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 11:22 AM
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16. More world indifference
to the terrors of AQ if * wins.
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Spirochete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 01:18 PM
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23. The Unabomber
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mikehiggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:46 PM
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25. Its Bush in a landslide
Anyone who wants to see the US dig itself deeper and deeper into its own grave just has to support the Phantom Airman.

And Lord knows that Osama has to figure somebody else might actually catch him, something Bush has managed to fail at for over two years with all of the resources of the entire United States at his disposal.

This year Bush has something he didn't have in 2000.

This year he has a record, and it is a disaster.
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mot78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 03:53 PM
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26. Doesn't matter
They were burning effigies of Clinton five years ago, and now they're burning effigies of *. In a year from now they'll be burning effigies of Kerry.
...To Bin Laden, there is no differance between Republicans and Democrats. Anyone who opposes Al Qaida's agenda is an infidel.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:23 PM
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28. kick
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DuctapeFatwa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:26 PM
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30. Whoever will up their per diem the most
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:38 PM
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31. Who knows, and more importantly, why should anyone care?
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 08:50 PM
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32. It doesn't matter
Osama paints David Duke and Noam Chomsky with the same brush and would just as quick kill one as the other.

Of course, if he really wants America to die a slow, tortuous death, he'd vote for Bush.
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katieforeman Donating Member (785 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 09:02 PM
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33. Bush is a great for recruitment and fundraising.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-12-04 10:42 PM
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36. They would support the guy
that serves as a lightning rod for recruitment. Namely Bush.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 04:42 AM
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38. chimpy, cause they have so much
in common, they share the same beliefs about suppressing people's rights and religious extremism.
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genius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:38 PM
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39. You are assuming that Al Qaeda is separate from Bush.
Al Qaeda was organized by the CIA and is still working for Bush.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-13-04 02:44 PM
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40. They need the Global Oil Project.
It's the old "for every action theirs an opposite but equal reaction". They need a lack of responsibility and arrogance with total diplomatic incompetence for their tactics to bring their desired results.
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