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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:09 AM
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Obama; mute on Impeachment
I have read Obama's website on issues, did several Google searches as well as review ed other web blogs but no stance noted a to where Obama sits on Impeachment. Anyone with links and factual information; please share.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:10 AM
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1. It doesn't matter. There is not going to be any impeachment
and time spent talking about it is simply a waste. Everyone should have figured this out by now.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:11 AM
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2. The whole damned Democratic Leadership is mute on impeachment...
and deaf and blind, too.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:12 AM
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3. And you won't find it on Hillary's site either.
So, your point would be....?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:13 AM
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4. He should stay Mute - he's a senator who would be called to act as JUROR if there was
an impeachment.

Strange that so many Dems are still unaware of how Impeachment and then Removal works.

Senators listen to the CASE presented by a House that has impeached a President and then must JUDGE according to the evidence presented.

You want Dem Senators to say impeachment is needed and THEN have to recuse themselves from being objective jurors?
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:14 AM
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5. And here I thought it was just Hill. They are both voting present on impeachment, eh?
Can you imagine that?
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:15 AM
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7. Senators don't vote on impeachment at all.
The House impeaches.
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stahbrett Donating Member (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:15 AM
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6. I'd rather the candidates focus on what they'll do as president
The Republicans had no chance to get Bill Clinton removed from office, yet they stupidly impeached him anyway. I'd hope the Democrats would be smarter, and focus on winning the White House. There's no way 2/3rds of the Senate would vote to convict Bush or Cheney, and they'll be out of office in 11 months anyway.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:18 AM
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8. As well he should be. It's a divisive topic and I'd rather he stay mum about it.
Doesn't serve any of us if he becomes an attack dog for impeachment and would certainly sink his campaign. The Republicans would go nuts.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:18 AM
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9. it's a moot point ln
as articles of impeachment must be initiated from the House-senators can NOT draw up the papers
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:18 AM
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10. it's a moot point ln
as articles of impeachment must be initiated from the House-senators can NOT draw up the papers
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:19 AM
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11. Obama has stated he is against impeachment.
Apparently, in his opinion, Bush and Cheney haven't committed any "grave breaches" of authority. :eyes:

Obama, a Harvard law school graduate and former lecturer on constitutional law at the University of Chicago, said impeachment should not be used as a standard political tool.

"I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority," he said.

"I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus."


Meanwhile, today in Congress, our fearless leaders are making sure Bush and Cheney are not held responsible for illegal spying, and the telecoms get a "get out of jail free" card forever on the subject. Their crimes are about to be legalized in order to cover up the crimes. Nice. Thanks, Congress. And they say the GOP is the minority party... :puke:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-06-28-obama-impeachment_N.htm
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 12:21 PM
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18. Thanks; I see he is using the Progressive Democrats for
self-serving means. Ohio Progressive Democrats will be unhappy.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:23 AM
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12. He's bipola.....bipartisan.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:26 AM
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13. Senators should be mute on impeachment
they're the jury.
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democrattotheend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:26 AM
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14. Don't think either candidate has mentioned it
Most mainstream Dems have stayed far away from it. Clinton and Obama are focused on winning the election...if the Congressional leadership wants to take this up, fine (although I think it would backfire and hurt our chances of winning the White House in 2008). We'd have to impeach both Bush and Cheney for it to make any difference, and as much as I like Nancy Pelosi, I'd rather have Obama or Clinton as president for at least 4 years than have Pelosi be president for a few months. Impeachment proceedings take months, and it's unlikely that they could impeach both Bush and Cheney before their term expires anyway.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:32 AM
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15. Does it matter?
Edited on Tue Feb-12-08 11:33 AM by bowens43
A presidential candidate would be a fool to jump on the impeachment wagon.
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:37 AM
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16. And you found several links indicating that Hillary is ready to pull that trigger?
I guess I don't understand posts that say "OBAMA BRUSHES HIS TEETH EACH MORNING" if it's the same thing that Clinton does.

Point out the differences, but trying to "villify" one when the other is on the same path makes no sense.

If you're pissed because NO ONE is going after Bush, then change the post title to "Obama & Clinton aren't going to Impeach Bush" to try and at least appear impartial on the topic.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 11:46 AM
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17. It's not a policy issue
At least in theory, what goes on a campaign website is what the newly elected person hopes to do vis-à-vis policy. Once Bush leaves office, he cannot be impeached and therefore irrelevant to what Obama would do in office. His other policies regarding open government speak to the issue, even if indirectly.

That said, is any current candidate talking about impeachment?
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