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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:02 PM Original message |
Skip the spin: Obama really is the front runner at this point... |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. I really thought she'd win today... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. I think the weather probably affected things... |
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bicentennial_baby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. That's possible, but Maine-ahs are generally pretty tough |
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quinnox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't ever count Hillary out |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I agree with this...nobody takes a punch like Hillary and bounces back... |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. What makes her a "masterful politician"? |
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sniffa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. But look at the money she spent to beat that lamb |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I made a thread on this earlier - you're not giving Obama enough credit.. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. She has taken massive punches her whole political career...in office.. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
69. The fact that she is viable after 16 years of Republican abuse. n/t |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
4. I don't think we can call him the front-runner unless he wins Ohio and Pennsylvania |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. If she loses everything after Feb 5, do you really think we can.. |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Small states don't count in this contest b/c the delegates from one large state |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. I agree with her strategy, but do you really think her leads will hold... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. He may be performing better than her, but with her current fund raising |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Her good fund raising will be over after Tuesday... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. Guess on whose spin you believe |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:46 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. People that lose continually aren't getting funding from donors... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. As long as her supporters believe she can take those big states |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. Again, I think you'll find her supporters are starting to get disheartened... |
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Debi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. We are going to continue to disagree on this point until March 4th |
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localroger (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #13 |
58. That would be true if winner-take-all, but it isn't. |
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NoBorders (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. Exactly. It will depend on how big her wins |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:10 PM Response to Original message |
7. As I've posted elsewhere.... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I'm an Obama supporter, but I don't buy that for a second... |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. We've all been surprised so many times during this campaign, it's taken so |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
12. She's still the frontrunner. She has more delegates, if the endorsements from supers are counted |
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pdxmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
17. As long as the MSM keeps including the super delegates in her count, |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I'm not talking about the MSM spin...I'm talking about absent of spin... |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
18. Oh no no no Hillary is the front runner she is way ahead |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. Hillary will always be the frontrunner. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I ABSOLUTELY agree not to underestimate her...but |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I do feel like some kind of momentum shift has happened. |
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A_Titanic_Mess (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
24. re: Skip the spin: Obama really is the front runner at this point... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:29 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. If you think Hillary hasn't been attacking Obama, you haven't been.. |
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gravity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
49. That's why Obama will win |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I can haz cheezburger? |
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donheld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
66. Welcome to DU you Mess |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
25. Shhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #25 |
33. self delete |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
27. I agree. Obama is the front runner, but Hillary could still win easily. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Hillary can still win...but it won't be easy. |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
30. Hillary is STILL ahead in all committed delegates. Obama is not the frontrunner yet. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Fair enough...but |
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tandem5 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
34. she's the underdog nt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. Not until her delegate count is lower. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Be honest...who do you think will win at this point? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. The one who ends up with a higher delegate count |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Your spinning...I'm not...nt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Saying anything but that the person with more delegates is the front runner is spinning |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. By your own logic, your last post has been refuted...if Obama |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Oh, ok fine. Then he'll be the front runner, although IIRC Hillary is leading in WI polls. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:40 PM Response to Reply #46 |
55. Good news. We can agree. CBS just announced his delegate count is higher. He is the front runner! |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. I will be if its true. :) |
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Imagevision (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
45. Obama would more easily defeat mcCain then Billary... |
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Medusa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. And that's why Hillary is the GOP's Dem nominee of choice |
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jbm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
51. it's waaaay to early to make that call... |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Maine was Hillary's state too...as were many others...and... |
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Zhuk (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
52. its too early to say |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. that's all I'm saying...not that Obama will win, but that he is... |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
56. Don't get over-confident |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
59. Obama did very well, but things are still very close. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. If Obama wins all three states on Tuesday will he be? |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Most likely. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
62. She is the underdog. |
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Colobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
64. No, she's not. She's a Clinton. She's got the establishment behind her. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. Your guy has the MSM behind him. |
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sfam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Romney had the establishment behind him...was he the front runner? |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
63. Maine was only 24 delegates. Obama gained only +6 from it. |
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