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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:45 PM
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Wilder Still Sore Over Clinton Comment
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Feb 9, 9:48 PM EST


Wilder Still Sore Over Clinton Comment

By BOB LEWIS
Associated Press Writer


RICHMOND, Va. (AP) -- The nation's first elected black governor said Saturday he is not ready to excuse comments former President Bill Clinton made about Barack Obama.

In campaigning for his wife last month on the eve of the New Hampshire primary, Clinton called Obama's opposition to the Iraq war "a fairy tale." Clinton suggested Obama had toned down his early anti-war fervor during his 2004 Senate campaign.

"Barack Obama is not a fairy tale. He is real," former Virginia Gov. L. Douglas Wilder told reporters at a Democratic fundraiser as the former president spent the day campaigning for Hillary Rodham Clinton in Richmond and three other Virginia cities.

The grandson of slaves, who was elected in 1989 in what was once the Confederate capital, endorsed Obama last month. Now Richmond's mayor, Wilder's comments still get the attention of the state's black voters, though his influence has waned since he left office 15 years ago.

Clinton also implied that an Obama victory in South Carolina would amount to a reward based on race, like the Rev. Jesse Jackson's 20 years earlier.

Wilder said the former president's comments stung him and other black voters and diminished their respect for Clinton.

"It's not just me (who) feels that; any number of people feel that," Wilder said. "A time comes and a time goes. The president has had his time."

Clinton spokesman Mo Elleithee said Bill and Hillary Clinton both "have tremendous respect for Governor Wilder. He has been a trailblazer who made it possible for both Senators Clinton and Obama to run for president."

In stops across Virginia, Clinton was careful Saturday to avoid any comment remotely critical of his wife's rival for the Democratic presidential nomination. Virginia, Maryland and the District of Columbia hold primaries Tuesday

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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:47 PM
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1. Obama's minions have been twisting...
Clinton's words, playing the race card for Obama.
Bastard!
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ingac70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:49 PM
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3. Yeah, only black people have been voting for him.
:sarcasm:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:50 PM
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4. An Inconvenient Truth? n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:41 PM
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12. Yeah, clintons are bastards all right..
you got something right, axegrid.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:48 PM
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2. i agree with his sentiment, thanks for posting (eom)
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:03 PM
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5. I guess his dumb ass can't read or hear. President Clinton did NOT call Obama a fairytale. He
called Obama's running as the candidate who had so-called better judgement on Iraq, a fairytale. President Clinton eloquently pointed out that Obama said in 2004 that he didn't know how he would have voted regarding Iraq, and that there was no difference between him and George W. Bush on Iraq.



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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:11 PM
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6. Obama is still backing the funding for the war.
As Clinton said, his pure anti-war rhetoric does not match reality.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:13 PM
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7. Precisely...And I'm just truly and deeply disappointed in Doug Wilder, a man I used to respect and
hold in high regard, for continuing to pimp this notion that President Clinton called Obama a fairytale. We all know he did not.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:26 PM
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8. funny how you guys have lost respect for anyone who calls out the
Clintons BS. I've lost count of the many people you guys have now thrown overboard and "lost respect for". And the list just keeps growing. <sigh>
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:30 PM
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10. One small problem here....Wilder didn't call the Clinton's B.S....there was no B.S. to call, idiot.
Wilder was disingenuous and lied.

What part of President Clinton never called Obama a fairytale, don't you get?

He called Obama's argument that he had the so-called better judgement on Iraq, a fairytale.

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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:51 PM
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13. when you have to resort to name calling (idiot?) you've lost your
argument. Clinton clearly thought he could diminish Obama by calling him (a grown ass man) "kid". Saying things like "roll of the dice". Let's say the "fairy tale" comment was misrepresented, Clinton's other tactics in SC were intentionally designed to paint Obama as the "black" candidate, and it looks like it's backfired BIG TIME. One of his most loyal constituencies have fled him in droves. He should just keep his trap shut.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:56 PM
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14. Doug Wilder was specifically talking about the "fairytale" comment, not anything else. You're the
one interjecting other stuff in to this debate...because you know you can't win regarding the "fairytale" comment. You have no basis to stand on.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:06 AM
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16. Okay, I'm gonna "ignore" you now because your blinders are
on, way too tight. In this thread, you've called Sen. Obama a "dumbass", and me an "idiot". I really don't think I can argue with someone like that. Toodles.....
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:56 PM
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15. Nah.
Let him run off at the mouth. He might learn something.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 12:09 AM
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17. I highly doubt it, and if he's a journalist as his screen name implies...
I'd have to venture a guess that it's Paul Krugman? :rofl:
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JimGinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:30 PM
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9. YOU SAID PIMP!!!
If Hillary finds out she may cry!

:crazy:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 11:39 PM
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11. I voted for Wilder with enthusiasm, so I can say he's a bastard w/a 'plays well with others' problem
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 11:40 PM by MookieWilson
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 02:17 AM
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18. The man is right: Clinton time is OVER.
I'm pleased the old corporate scumbag attacked Obama so viciously; it has hastened the end of his and his wife's control over the party.

Attaboy, Big Dawg. Keep flapping your trap!
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