Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

"Obama should do what Romney did and bow out." C-SPAN caller

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:31 AM
Original message
"Obama should do what Romney did and bow out." C-SPAN caller
I agree! :kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:32 AM
Response to Original message
1. That's absurd
It's still a tight race. Why should Obama bow to the Queen?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:35 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. It was a caller's opinion. Felt the issue of MI and FL is just too divisive,
and he should bow out for the sake of the party and the country.

Of course he's not going to. But I liked the sentiment! :D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:51 AM
Response to Reply #3
14. Hillary should. Why Obama when he is going to win?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:10 AM
Response to Reply #3
40. MI and FL should bow out, they ran illicit primaries
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
UALRBSofL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:11 AM
Response to Reply #1
22. Hillary a Queen-There goes the sexism again
People should be outraged.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:19 AM
Response to Reply #22
23. I didn't think King would be appropriate
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #23
31. Let's switch to monarch then
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:22 AM
Response to Reply #22
25. Just asking, but why is the allusion to royalty, available to both men and women,
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 09:04 AM by Old Crusoe
NOT applicable for use by observers of those in public life?

In individualized romantic references, a woman may be "Queen of ( )'s dreams," and that is not strictly speaking, a sexist reference, but rather a matter of exultation of the desired lover. Is "Prince Charming" anti-male any more or less than "Queen of my dreams" is anti-female?

In the film AMERICAN BEAUTY the realtor was the 'King of Real Estate" sales but it really had nothing to do with his sex or gender. Which isn't to say that he wasn't an adulterous cad. But so was the female character he slept with.

There is the issue of Bushes and Clintons occupying the same office for a considerable number of recent years, and the allusion to "royalty" is persuasive in that context, and does not relate IMO to sex or gender.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:33 AM
Response to Original message
2. Could be that caller was a tad biased, or stupid.
I think 'stupid' is persuasive.

By all counts, the Obama campaign is doing pretty well these days.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:07 AM
Response to Reply #2
19. Or both / nt.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
4. Why? How is Obama's campaign like Romney's?
Has he had to self-finance? No, that would be Hilly.

Has he had limited success winning votes and delegates? No, he's just about even with Hilly and on the verge of surpassing her.

Why, beyond your fervent desire to see him drop out, should he?

Logic, please.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
5. Stupid post. He's ahead so she should bow out.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:36 AM
Response to Original message
6. I'm for Hillary bowing out and taking her divisive campaign staff with her.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:37 AM
Response to Original message
7. I know....I would too if I had the chance of being POTUS
This is an ignorant thread
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:38 AM
Response to Original message
8. Not On Your Life, Pal.
.
The process for selection is still alive. Shall the people be allowed to decide?
.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:46 AM
Response to Original message
9. Sour grapes from a Hillary supporter seeing the establishment candidate losing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. You think you're seeing sour grapes now?
Just wait until tonight when the returns come in from NE, WA and LA. If Obama wins those states, you're going to see an unprecedented deluge of ugly from the Hill supporters here.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:02 AM
Response to Reply #11
32. I just worry because the media has set the bar at Obama winning
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 09:06 AM by karynnj
everything in the next few weeks. This risks, them diminishing a series of wins, if they happen - and saying HRC beat expectations if she wins anywhere. (A la the huge upset they spoke of when she won NH - where she had been 20+ points ahead throughout 2006 and having the entire Shaheen machine behind her - all because the media hyped a big Obama win because of polls done in the first 3 days after Iowa.)

There have been very few people who have mentioned that SuperTuesday was pretty much designed to make anyone but HRC noncompetitive. That Obama is still standing at this point is far above what was expected in December 2006 - where national polls showed HRC consistently double digits ahead.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:31 AM
Response to Reply #11
42. Oh brother...
Can't wait.. :popcorn:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:47 AM
Response to Original message
10. ...
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 07:47 AM by Jamastiene
:kick:

:rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:50 AM
Response to Original message
12. no way. we are about to see if he surges ahead of Hillary or not.
Edited on Sat Feb-09-08 07:51 AM by jonnyblitz
there is no rational reason why he should at this point unless he has personal reasons unrelated to his performance. I am not a supporter by I can see past my bias in this case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:51 AM
Response to Original message
13. I would encourage Obama
to cut a VP deal. Continue to milk the cash-cow of online donors for say 3-4 more weeks before anouncing.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:53 AM
Response to Reply #13
15. Offer Hillary a V.P. spot? No way! It's time to end the Bush/Clinton dynasties.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #13
17. I'm sure you would encourage him to do that
tough. He has no need to. He's going to beat her in LA, NE, WA, ME, VA, D.C., VI, MD, VT, and he'll be competitive in TX and RI. Why the hell should he cut a deal?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:35 AM
Response to Reply #17
28. Almost all of those states are part of the peanut gallery.
They are in "shock-n-ah" at the moment to even be significance during the Primaries wherein they are being discussed for a day in the media......

Obama did not win the key states like Hillary has done to date. She will take Ohio, maybe even Pennsylvania.

He, Obama, is still Junior Senator from Illinois. The super delegates know this. They who have endorsed Obama will switch to Hillary at the end. The inner D.C Beltway's controlling elements of the right wing persuasion, they will set him up for shame, blame and weakness. The Congressional super delegates know this well and want to dominate and will choose the chosen leader. They posture now, to boost Obama for cash flow and for recognition as VP equal.

That's the real game plan. Deal has been brokered.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:05 AM
Response to Reply #28
34. Virginia is the peanut gallery? Louisiana? How about Illinois?
Georgia? You're wrong. And guess what, nursie? Small states are vital too. Can't win without tham.

Hilly is the jr senator from NY. Didn't you know that. And more and more SDs are coming out in support of Obama. That will increase after he wins several more states. SDs do NOT want Hilly on top of the ticket. She may win Ohio or she may not. He has 3 weeks to close the gap- and that's a lot of time in this race.

So who is the "they" who will set him up for "shame, blame and weakness"? Care to elaborate or are you full of nonsense? The truth is that many Congressional SDs just don't want to see her as the nominee because they fear she's a drag down ticket and believe she can't win.

You have no inside knowledge. You're just blowing smoke about some deal being brokered.

Enjoy your candidates long string of losses starting today. Have fun tonight. And Tuesday and all the rest of the month. And don't bank on Ohio or Texas or PA. You may be in for a very nasty surprise.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:55 AM
Response to Original message
16. I think that's a very arrogant suggestion...
from the caller and from you. There's no more logic to Obama just dropping out than there is for Hillary to do the same. Wishful thinking doesn't count.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 07:58 AM
Response to Original message
18. Was it a long distance call for you?
Maybe the Clinton campaign can reimburse you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Hailtothechimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #18
20. Perhaps not. They're working for free, ya know.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #18
38. Tie w/ Post 35
Just can't decide.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
EffieBlack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:10 AM
Response to Original message
21. Funny that you would post this next to your Al Gore avatar
Considering that was the argument that the press - parrotting the Bush campaign line - kept badgering Al Gore with during the Florda recount in 2000.

Remember? When is Gore going to concede? When will Gore give up? Why won't Gore bow out gracefully? He needs to step out for the good of the country, to stop the diviseness, etc. And all this while the recount was still going on and Gore and Bush were neck-and-neck.

Right now, the race between Obama and Clinton is just as close. Why should Obama bow out? This isn't a coronation, it's an election. And until someone gets enough votes/delegates to ensure the nomination - or it becomes clear that such an outcome is inevitable, there is no reason for either candidate to concede.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:20 AM
Response to Original message
24. Desperation is not becoming. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:23 AM
Response to Original message
26. Obama bowing out is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
He's virtually tied with Hillary today as far as the representative delegates go and after this weekend may well be leading overall.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:24 AM
Response to Original message
27. Isn't it the broke flailing candidates that usually bow out? Maybe you should talk to your girl. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:40 AM
Response to Original message
29. Ignoramus Ignore List growing: "I agree"
KMA
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 08:55 AM
Response to Original message
30. As they are essentially tied
It makes as much sense to say that HRC should drop out. In both cases, it makes no sense at all.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
33. I heard that. Ha! That was funny. He's winning...more states, more $$$, more popular....
Why would the winner step down? If anyone should, Billary should, for the good of the country. She is so devisive. She is not wanted by the majority of Americans. She should step down for the good of the country.

But Billary has never done anything for the good of the country, that I can see. It is always about them, isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:07 AM
Response to Original message
35. Did the caller have a hoarse voice with a mild Arkansas accent?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:06 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. Tie w/ Post 18 n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Blarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 09:56 AM
Response to Original message
36. He is about to become President.
Why drop out ? ...It seems repubs are scared to death of this guy
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:08 AM
Response to Original message
39. What are she and you smoking? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
yasmina27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 10:14 AM
Response to Original message
41. Bullshit!
This is TRUE democracy in action, and I look forward to watching it play out over the next couple of months. I would love for PA voters to actually finally have a voice in the primaries. I've heard several times recently that the race could come down to the votes in PA, and I look forward to it and hope it happens!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu May 02nd 2024, 10:09 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC