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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:16 PM
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Hillary Clinton voted for the Patriot Act
Just to let you know
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:17 PM
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1. Just a little flame baiting ... looks like a Repug troll at work
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:19 PM
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10. It is the truth, call me what you want, been a dem for life. Sorry i am a little pissed about her
35 years of experience.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:29 PM
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20. this seems to be the tactic that this poster uses
said the exact same thing to me in a poll I posted about phone calls.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:33 PM
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Defend her vote, not point to what others have done, she is a leader right?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:17 PM
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2. Both Of Them
An act so nice they passed it twice.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:17 PM
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3. Et Tu Troll?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:28 PM
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18. Terse and to the point!
:rofl:
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:17 PM
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4. So did Obama.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:18 PM
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7. nope, he voted for the renewl which fixed many of the problems in the one that clinton voted for.
Nice try
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:19 PM
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11. LOL. Obama voted for the Patriot Act.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:21 PM
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13. Check yourself, he wasn't in congress when the first bill was past
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:30 PM
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21. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
Why is that so hard for you to get?
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:33 PM
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23. Original or the one that fixed many of the problems with the first one?
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:35 PM
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25. The one where everyone had figured out it was screwed up-nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:35 PM
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26. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:40 PM
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28. Original or the one that fixed many of the problems with the first one?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:41 PM
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30. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:42 PM
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33. Defend her vote, not point to what others have done, she is a leader right? You cant do it, thats...
the problem.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:42 PM
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34. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:43 PM
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38. Broken fucking record.
Lift the needle, fix the skip.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:40 PM
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29. Defend her vote, not point to what others have done, she is a leader right?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:41 PM
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31. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:43 PM
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35. I love this argument, So it is okay that hillary voted for it, because obama did. WOW...
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 09:43 PM by wnslnadu21
he didn't vote for the original
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:43 PM
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37. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:44 PM
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40. LOL, one day you will see the light
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:45 PM
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42. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
Truth.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:47 PM
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44. Defend her vote
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:48 PM
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45. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
:rofl:
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:51 PM
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48. So you support this bill? Glad to know... WOW
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:58 PM
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52. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
donchaknow?
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:18 PM
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5. Now shes against it
Voted for No Child Left Behind. Now shes against it

Voted for the war in Iraq. Now shes against it.

Voted for the Bankruptcy Bill. Now shes against.

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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:54 PM
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50. Brent, Brent-you KNOW she didn't vote for the bankruptcy bill. Why do you lie about it compulsively
?

You only debase yourself.
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:18 PM
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6. 'Nuff said.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:19 PM
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8. and don't forget, she literally wrapped herself in the flag
Has prayer meetings with Sam Brownback.

She's 100% phony.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:19 PM
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9. So did all but one Democrat
Noted DINOs Paul Wellstone, Patrick Leahy, and Ted Kennedy voted for it.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:20 PM
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12. AH, Ted Kennedy, A true Dem
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:40 PM
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27. Obama voted to renew it, Clinton did NOT.
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nebula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:21 PM
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14. HC never saw a GOP bill she didn't like
what else is new?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:23 PM
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15. GOP bills are supported by all but one Democrat?
Such as noted DINOs Ted Kennedy and Paul Wellstone?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:27 PM
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17. Check the records before you post
The resolution passed with 98 yeas, 1 nay, and 1 not voting.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:25 PM
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16. Can you list the senators who voted nay?
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:29 PM
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19. Both HIllary and Obama have shown support for the Patriot Act.
And yes, it is a shame.

But then, they also enjoy funding the war, denying equal marriage rights...I could go on.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:32 PM
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22. Defend her vote, not point to what others have done, she is a leader right?
Obama Voted for the renewal that fixed the a lot of the problems with the first one. Defend her vote.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:43 PM
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36. Voting for it, or voting to renew it...either way
it's a slap in the face of our Constitutional rights, and I can't support someone that takes that stand.

I can't stand either one of "our" candidates. Waste of a nomination.
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BringBigDogBack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:33 PM
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24. Haha,
ouch.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:41 PM
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32. I love it how people get called trolls and worse on DU
for simply stating the truth.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:44 PM
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39. TRUTH HURTS
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:45 PM
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41. Obama voted for the Patriot Act
.
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:46 PM
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43. What are you going to do when obama isn't in the white house, what is going to be your defense...
When she continuous to make these horabel decisions?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:49 PM
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46. horabel decisions? Obama voted for the Patriot Act
That's horrible.
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BlackVelvet04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:51 PM
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47. A democrat wrote the patriot act....duh. n/t
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:51 PM
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49. Defend her vote, not point to what others have done, she is a leader right?
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:56 PM
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51. Obama voted for the Patriot Act.
This is FUN!

:rofl:
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wnslnadu21 Donating Member (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:59 PM
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53. so you cant defend it, I am going to bump this for the next month, it just shows you all full of shi
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:00 PM
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55. Obama voted for the Patriot Act?
I didn't know that! :D
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 09:59 PM
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54. Obama voted for the Patriot Act?
Are you sure? If you are repeat after me "Obama voted for the Patriot Act"

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Hoof Hearted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:03 PM
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56.  Obama voted for the Patriot Act!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:06 PM
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57. OMG! Obama voted for the Patriot Act
Wow, I was not aware of that fact!

:D
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:10 PM
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58. She also voted in favor of Jesse Helms' bill opposing the International Criminal Court
In 2002, Helms introduced legislation opposing the International Criminal Court which Bush had been seeking. It was called the American Service Members' Protection Act with the chief sponsor Jesse Helms. This went almost unnoticed in the US media. The purpose of the law was to bar any and all cooperation by the United States with the International Criminal Court in the Hague. The particular reason was to prevent any US Service Members from being charged with war crimes, including supposedly our glorious Commander-In-Chief. The law was later changed in the House and passed and signed by Bush, but without the particular version sponsored by Helms which had the support of Hillary Clinton.

The Helms version had 21 Democratic Senators voting against it (the same 21 who voted against the IWR?) and the rest of the Democratic traitors voting in favor of it including Hillary Clinton, but it later died in the House and was changed for Bush to sign. Hillary voted for a bill that would have cut off any military aid to non-NATO countries that ratified the treaty creating the new International Criminal Court in the Hague.

And most outrageously, the bill Hillary voted in favor of included an amazing section called “The Hague invasion act,” that authorized the President to “use all means necessary and appropriate,” including invasion by military force, to free US personnel and their allies held on war crimes charges at the court in the Netherlands.
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