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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:37 PM Original message |
Hillary Supporters Just Don't Get It! |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
1. "I made a mess and you won't clean it up - you're the bad one!" |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. If you choose to ignore the substance, I can't help you. |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Stop it. You're making sense. That's not allowed in Hillaryworld. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I know. I should wait till after 7... When all the Obama supporters come on. |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. No, dude (or dudette, as the case may be), I was agreeing with you! |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Oh, okay. Thanks. |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. saying you're against a war |
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kikiek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
48. BINGO! I didn't hear any complaints then from Obama. He isn't any Kuchinich. |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:15 PM Response to Reply #48 |
76. I worked for Kucinich in 2004 |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. I think so too. |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #19 |
72. It's a tough call - The troops are already there. |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. I served in the army |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. And it could also be seen as not supporting the troops. n/t |
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TheDeathadder (731 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. yeah |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
2. Your argument is that Obama voted to continue the war for political expediency |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. NO, he voted for it to keep the troops alive. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Ridiculous... you are saying troops would have actually DIED if the war was defunded? |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I'm not the one using RW talking points. |
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MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
36. My nephew's life is NOT a right-wing talking point. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Neither is my cousin's |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #10 |
77. Enough died when the war was underfunded!!! |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. You assume there would be an immediate cut off--But you knew that the plans |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
3. No. I get it fine. I get the double standard. I get that no matter what |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Please, one thing Clinton is not is ACCOUNTABLE |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's a BOGUS argument. Obama wasn't in the Senate at the time. He was running to be a Senator. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. NO, he wasn't in the US Senate |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:04 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. NO, it's not the same thing. He's my Senator. I know where he was at the time. Hillary was in the |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Hardly. He still had the foresight to speak out against it. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. He lives here in Illinois. A BLUE STATE. That was a VERY easy position to take here. HE WON! |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. No it wasn't an easy stance to take. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. It most certainly was an easy stance to take here. If it was a bad/hard stance, he would have LOST. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:21 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Well Kucinich DID see it! |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:27 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. LOL...I feel sorry for you because your guy is making a bogus argument and |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. And Clinton lived in NY--lived with the people when had been killed--see her speech--she |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
52. self delete-wrong line |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I read her speech and she said SPECIFICALLY that the resolution did NOT give the psycho the right to |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. oops, wrong person--it was not meant for you. i will try to fix. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. LOL...that's okay. |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
47. In all honesty |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. Yes he opposed the war while running at a time when that could have been suicidal |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. as a State Senator? |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Yes. He was a state Senator running for the U.S. Senate at the time. n/t |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #25 |
79. not my point |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
28. My mistake... He was in the state legislature. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. No I don't undercut my argument. That was the easy thing for him.to do here in Illinois! |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The war wasn't a Red Blue issue then. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. If it was a bad thing for him to do, he would have LOST the election. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. It was the right thing for him to do. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. That doesn't make his argument against Hillary right. His argument against her is still BOGUS. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
69. Hillary was in a blue state |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:57 PM Response to Original message |
14. This forum sucks dog balls. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Like I said... Empty Rhetoric. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
15. He forgives Lieberman for being a rabid war hawk, he even campaigned for him. |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I don't forgive Lieberman. And you KNOW where Liberman stands. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
63. You don't forgive Lieberman but you overlook that Barack campaigned for him. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
26. she's got blood on her hands |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. She can put them through the spin cycle all she wants... It's not coming off. |
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Lord Helmet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. you got that right |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. You don't get it. Before the Oct IWR, Bush had already announced that |
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IndieLeft (851 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. He can announce all the BS he wants. It doesn't make it so. |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. There ya go. You just admitted the psycho is a war criminal. The IWR |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #35 |
53. The fact is that there would have been no way to punish him |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. DOWNING STREET MEMO! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #57 |
82. Not relevant. n/t |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
42. He didn't get a vote..... |
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in_cog_ni_to (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I forgot all about that waffle statement he made about the vote! Sheesh. That makes his anti-war |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Really... |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. you made a fine agument. The OP says clinton does not get it. Do a thread |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
64. How about you do it and I just say |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. oh--not today. i am just not up to it right now. i will be longing of in a bit.i think but |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I was kidding... |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. "the Senators who voted were and feeling the pressure and being told what they were told" |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
80. "He has a tendency to no vote on controversial issues." |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. Is he going to end the war if he gets elected? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
59. Only a brainless Obamaite would ever whine about Hillary calling Bush a dope |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. Obamababies whine all 'all things Clinton"--related or not. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. No kidding. Other people have tried before them, but they've successfully turned this place into WU |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
60. "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk" |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #60 |
70. Bears repeating endlessly |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk" |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
83. I see your point. |
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MethuenProgressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
62. Until Obama entered the race, we all knew Bush planned the Iraq War long before he was elected. |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #62 |
75. Bingo. n/t |
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JAbuchan08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #62 |
84. THose of us who were against the war from the beginning |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
74. Oh they get it..no one could be that |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-08-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
86. Exactly, Obama has always stated he puts troop safety first. |
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