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BigD_95 Donating Member (728 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:25 AM
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Polls show Obama beating McCain ( Hillary losing )
Edited on Fri Feb-08-08 10:27 AM by BigD_95
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:29 AM
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1. How 'bout those polls about California's primary
Obama was up by 17% in the polls.

He lost by about the same amount.

Zogby's brother is employed by the Obama campaign. That helps.

--p!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:17 AM
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9. Yeah and other polls showed things sugaring off differently
SUSA, as YOU very well know, showed her winning it by a slightly larger margin than she actually did. And in any case your comment has zip to do with the OP.
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Mr.Fitzgibbons Donating Member (77 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:30 AM
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2. Sorry, I am not anti-Obama, but I don't buy it. Those numbers will not hold up after a few debates
and McCain hammering, over and over, with countless ads and in the debate settings, Obama's glaring lack of foreign policy experience. This really worries me, because so far Obama has gotten mostly glowing, rhapsodic press coverage and there has been very little attention to the real substance of his career and his actual preparation for the presidency.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:40 AM
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4. I agree with you.
McCain isn't great in a debate, but he is way better than Obama, who fucking STINKS (there's no nice way to say it, he comes off sounding either BORING or PISSY--he has a very difficult time being lighthearted) and McCain, who CAN be lighthearted (though at times in an ominous way) is also a SUMBITCH with ZINGERS. He can aim one with the precision of a LASER. All he has to do is let loose once or twice with a well-aimed put-down, and THAT becomes the sound-bite of the event.

Obama's not going to zing Clinton. She's a better debater than he is, they have a mutual respect, and she can zap as good as he can. He'd end up getting his ass handed back to him, as well as look like a petulant bully if he even tried it, so he won't.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:15 AM
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8. How many times have the polls at this time to the last convention...
had loser ahead in the polls?
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godai Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:33 AM
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3. Serves as a snapshot of who'd be the stronger nominee.
Obama can't be dismissed as unelectable, too young etc. His tougher battle will be defeating the Clinton machine for the nomination.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:42 AM
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6. It is a snapshot, but it is woefully out of focus. That blur on the left isn't
Obama, it's Clinton.
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:40 AM
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5. I no longer vote based on what "other" people think
Or, based on the polls.
Remember, Kerry was nominated largely because he was perceived to be electable, as opposed to Dean.

I am NOT saying it should be Clinton. Only that one should vote for the candidate one believes in, not for the candidate ahead in some polls.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 10:49 AM
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7. Is he one up on God and Jesus....probably according to his supporters.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-08-08 11:18 AM
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10. Any candidate and their supporters that uses God and Jesus for their political logic
is no better than Bush and his demented religious followers.
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