Once again, Obama says Clinton supporters will back him; not sure his will back her

[journalist3072]

This is the 2nd time in recent days, that Obama has said that if he ends up the nominee, Sen. Clinton's supporters will back him. But if Sen. Clinton is the nominee, he's not sure his supporters will back her.

Is he sending a not-so-secret message to his supporters, that either it's him, or the party goes down in flames?

He seems to be doing a "wink-wink, nod-nod" to his supporters, telling them NOT to support Sen. Clinton. And I think that's his way of saying either he's the nominee, or the party goes down.

Moreover, how dare he speak for Clinton supporters. I'm a supporter of Sen. Clinton, and I have no intention of EVER casting a vote for Barack Obama. So how dare he, in all of his arrogance, believe he can speak for us, and say we will support him.

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Obama says GOP will have dirt on Clinton

By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
48 minutes ago

CHICAGO - Sen. Barack Obama predicted Wednesday that Republicans will have a dump truck full of dirt to unload on Hillary Rodham Clinton if the former first lady wins the Democratic presidential nomination, and said he offers the party its best hope of winning the White House this fall. Clinton countered that she did.

He said if he winds up winning more delegates in voting than Clinton, they "would have to think long and hard about how they approach the nomination when the people they claim to represent have said, 'Obama's our guy,'" he said.

-snip-

Obama suggested there were several areas in which he could do better than Clinton against the Republicans in the fall.

"I have no doubt that I can get the people who vote for Senator Clinton. ... It's not clear that Senator Clinton can get all the people I'm getting," he said.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080206/ap_on_el_pr/obama_18


And he gave this exact same quote the other day.

I posted about it when he said it the other day as well:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4366263

[Blue_State_Elitist]

1. Mr. Uniter.

Bullshit.

[polpilot]

29. ...simply states a known unpleasant truth...many won't vote

for her. This is certainly no surprise for anyone.

[DUyellow]

33. Obama - "who won't just tell you what you want to hear, but what you need to know."

[Blue_State_Elitist]

37. If Obama told his supporters to support Hillary they would.

[Qutzupalotl]

39. Unless the IWR vote is too important to them.

[Evergreen Emerald]

47. people are so lazy

to actually not look at that vote for what it was. If people are actually supporting Obama because of her vote on IWR--then our country is in a world of hurt.

[polpilot]

43. Wrong. Obama voters are independent free thinker true democrats

got ya'!

[Blue_State_Elitist]

45. LOL

[MADem]

2. Maybe some wags ought to start sending him emails, telling him he presumes too much. NT

[joshcryer]

3. Obama consistantly runs a dirty campaign. Consistantly.

The fact that his victory speech last night called out Clinton proves that he has no class.

[journalist3072]

16. Exactly! And the sad part is no one calls him on it. He's not held accountable at all for his

words or actions. He gets a total free pass.

[zabet]

4. The audacity of

hype and arrogance. :puke:

He should not even suggest that
any Dem today that has not been
paying attention, would vote any
thing other than for a Dem candidate.
Uniting the party? Intentionally
dividing it looks more like it.

[maddiejoan]

5. Argh

everytime I think I can support him if he's the nominee --he pulls some dumbass sh*t like this.

Hey, Obama --when you assume.....

[AX10]

6. Obama is getting nasty.

He is the pop-culture candidate. He will not win this Hillary supporter over because he plays on emotions only. He is also very arrogant.

[KittyWampus]

10. no, it's the fucked up Hillary supporters intentionally misreading the intent of what he said.

It's more than obvious he refers to mods and indies who are NOT Dems and who probably will not vote for the Clintons.

But then, you actually know that.

[Straight Shooter]

35. I'm one of those "fucked up Hillary supporters" who is a moderate indie.

Guess what? My reading comprehension skills are a lot better than your social interaction skills.

[Straight Shooter]

38. Wonderful. Ladies and gentleman, it's another episode of "What Obama Really Meant"

What a slippery little silver-tongued devil he is.

edit - and I posted in the wrong place.

[journalist3072]

17. Exactly! The people following him are almost like a cult. In their eyes, he can do no wrong. He's

the Coming Messiah.

It's really sick.

[KittyWampus]

7. are Hillary supporters intellectually challenged? He's referring to the Indies and ModeratesIlar

neither group will gravitate towards the Clintons, they are too polarizing.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

8. Wow, and not only on top of him saying it previously, on top of Michelle's comments too

What nerve. But I'm glad he's showing his true colors in a way that even his kool-aid drinkers can't deny, even though we know they will anyway.

[KittyWampus]

12. One more time before I log off, those intentionally misreading his comments are the ones exposing

themselves.

It is essentially lying.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

13. You and your candidate have no shame n.t

[Levgreee]

9. He is not talking at all about the Democrats

idiots

[frazzled]

11. Today at his press conference he said exactly the opposite

He said each of their supporters would support the other candidate in the end. I heard it with my own ears. And I believe my ears before I believe Ms. Nedra Pickler.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

14. strike 3 and he is out.....he says this one more time and I promise you this Clinton supporter will

NOT......

[stahbrett]

15. Sigh... he's talking about his proven ability to attract non-Democrats

You guys have poor comprehension skills, or are just trying to start something out of desperation. All election experts know that (a) hard-core Democrats will vote for the Democratic nominee, and (b) Obama is attracting independents and Republican support well above anything Hillary is doing.

[flyarm]

18. you are eother with me or against me..where have i heard that before?? eom

[THUNDER HANDS]

19. they're both playing the game

I have no doubt he'll tell his supporter to back her, should he lose. He won't say, Okay, now go off and vote republican or stay home.

[Blarch]

20. I have been wondering...

are DUers really this stupid ? ..can this simple issue really be flying right over their heads ?

We all know that Obama has brought most of the new voters. Obama is saying that the people who showed up for him might not show up for Hillary.

And for some reason... these certain DUers cannot grasp this simple concept. Lets be honest now.

[journalist3072]

26. And how the hell does he know that? Barack and Michelle seem to be threatening people into voting

for him.

You have Obama now constantly saying he'll get Clinton supporters, but is not sure she will get his.

And then you have Michelle Obama saying over and over that it's now or never....he's not running again.

They seem to be trying to threaten people into voting for him.

It's sick.

And it seems like YOU'RE the dunce...since you're obviously falling for it.

[Blarch]

41. Lets be honest for a second.

These new young voters he brought into the mix...might not 'feel it' for Hillary...and might not show up to vote for her.

Why is that so hard to understand ?

[journalist3072]

44. "MIGHT NOT" are your operative words there. Who the hell are you or Barack to say what those voters

will do? Do you read minds or something?

Again, it just seems like an attempt to threaten people into voting for him and no one else.

[ursi]

21. the only reason Clinton says Obama would be a good VP is she needs his sunshine

[4nic8em]

22. I don't give a

shit who gets the nomination, I'm voting DEM straight ticket. How's that for an agenda?

[MoonRiver]

23. I feel exactly the same. eom

[pstans]

24. My aunt, who has been a lifelong Republican won't support Clinton

My aunt has been a lifelong Republican. Her daughter (my cousin) having interned with a Republican Senator even. She caucused for Obama and would never even consider voting for Clinton.

[AGirl]

25. Obama is *not* likeable enough.

[Qutzupalotl]

27. Many of the people he is getting opposed the Iraq invasion.

Clinton voted for the UMF resolution.

Those voters for whom Iraq is the biggest issue would have difficulty supporting her.

That's all he's saying.

[journalist3072]

28. Could you please quit embarrassing yourself and stop with this ridiculous notion

that Obama is the anti-war candidate.

This is the same man who in 2004 said he did not even know how he would have voted, and that there was no difference in his position on the war and Bush's.

And then he tries to cover that up by saying he was only trying to protect John Kerry and John Edwards during the '04 campaign.

He's an embarrassment.

[Qutzupalotl]

32. Could you please look at the context of his quotes and get back to me?

Like where he said "the case was not made"?

[DUyellow]

30. Obama - "who won't just tell you what you want to hear, but what you need to know."

The time has come for a president who will be honest about the choices and the challenges we face, who will listen to you and learn from you, even when we disagree, who won't just tell you what you want to hear, but what you need to know.

[TheDonkey]

31. It's true. may will splinter to McCain because of Clinton hate

not that I agree but people will tire of "billary" dynasty and go to McCain even though he is insane.

[1776Forever]

34. I said this way before Obama said that his supporters might not go for Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He didn't have to "tell" me this!

[LVjinx]

36. These types of comments are destructive

What he should be saying is "Democrats will unite against the Republicans!" Pouting and saying his supporters will sit out if he doesn't win serves nothing but to boost his ego. And who pays the price for that? All America, if it means Republicans serve another 4 years.

[rug]

40. Sing, goddess, of Achilles' ruinous anger

Which brought ten thousand pains to the Achaeans,
And cast the souls of many stalwart heroes
To Hades, and their bodies to the dogs
And birds of prey.

[Samantha]

42. Dems do not mind speculating on the polarization factor of

Hillary Clinton to the general voting public; but one seldom hears Dems discuss the polarization she creates within the party. It's a longstanding problem, not one that just appeared as the election materialized. Despite the quiet acknowledgment of the party elite of that fact, it is willing to risk her candidacy with the thought that when it comes time to close the deal, the base will fall into line as if it belonged to the Republican party. I doubt that will happen. The scars over the debate over the war will never heal, so why do people think this all-important issue will just be a scab by the time the general election process starts?

[pointsoflight]

46. Geez, people, he's simply saying...

...that he, as a candidate, is drawing new people into the party that don't usually participate, and that if he's not the nominee, some will go back to not participating. That's been a consistent them of his message all along, drawing new people into the party. These sinister interpretations are ridiculous.