The Clinton hate crowd has plastered a bullseye on Kerry's forehead

[CatWoman]

http://www.citizensunited.org/index.html

and I'd like to know just who is sponsoring THEM.

The RNC is asking that MoveOn ads not be run because MoveOn is violating campaign finance laws.

[Hippo_Tron]

1. How come liberal websites aren't as obnoxious as these are?

It's no wonder there are so many college Republicans.

[cyclezealot]

2. Cause to worry?

The right wing attacks on Clinton did not stick until Lewinski and not even then..Clinton had majority support all through the repug actions. Right wingers do not give up..It is like a Chinese water torture..I suspect Americans will see through their methods.

[Florida_Geek]

3. Kerry's wife is well liked and I do not think

their upcoming attack on her will be liked by the general voters.

[CatWoman]

4. This webpage is maintained by David Bossie and Floyd Brown

www.talkingpointsmemo.com

Along those lines, and we'll be saying more about this, David Bossie and Floyd Brown are back in the mix. And they're after Kerry too with a new independent expenditure ad lambasting him as an effete Massachusetts liberal.

Bossie, you'll remember, is the Republican hate freak who provided much of the dark comedy of the Clinton-hating years playing the role of second-string Wile E. Coyete to Bill Clinton's Road Runner.

Bossie's pal, Floyd Brown, first made a splash helping along the democratic process by putting together the 1988 Willie Horton ad -- which was, not particularly convincingly, disavowed by the president's father.

By 1992 Brown was back in the mix running an anti-Clinton Gennifer Flowers ad with a 900 number viewers could call for steamy details.

Along the way the two were publishing classics like Prince Albert: the Life and Lies of Al Gore (2000) and Slick Willie: Why America Cannot Trust Bill Clinton (1992) and between the two of them managing to be involved in every twist and turn of the anti-Clinton shenanigans from their 1992 'investigations' in Arkansas, through various Whitewater and Paula Jones dirty tricks, through Bossie's telling role as 'Chief Investigator' for Dan Burton's Committee on Government Reform and Oversight.

There's much more of course -- and you can follow their role as semi-hapless bad-actors in the books of Sid Blumenthal, Joe Conason, Gene Lyons, and Jeff Toobin. But if I go into any more detail at the moment my head will surely explode and then I won't be able to finish this post and there will also be a big mess on my desk.

In any case, now they're in the hunt for John Kerry, starting with the new ad you can see at their website. Go take a look, to get a taste of what's coming down the pike.

-- Josh Marshall

[blm]

5. Richard Mellon Scaife.

Kerry has survived Scaife before.

[rhino91063]

6. Here is where you can get info on them

Information concerning Citizens United's registration and financial information can be obtained from the following: Florida Division of Consumer Services by calling within the state 1-800-help-fla, reg. No. SC-04837, 100% of contributions are received by the organization; documents and information submitted under Maryland's charitable solicitation act are available, for the cost of postage and copies, for the Maryland Secretary of State, State House, Annapolis, MD 21401, [phone]; Mississippi Secretary of State's Office by calling 1-888-236-6167; Attorney General of the State of New Jersey by calling 973-504-6215; New York State Attorney General, Charities Bureau, 120 Broadway, New York, NY 10271; North Carolina Department of the Secretary of State, solicitation licensing section, 919-807-2214; Pennsylvania Department of State, or by calling, from within Pennsylvania, 800-732-0999; Virginia Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Affairs; Secretary of State (State Washington) by calling 1-800-332-4483; West Virginia Secretary of State, State Capitol, Charleston, VA 24305; or by contacting Citizens United, 109 Carpenter Drive, suite 210, Sterling, VA 20164. Registration with a government agency does not imply endorsement by that agency.

[jenk]

7. that ad makes my blood boil

we need to counter, and get down and dirty just like they do. seems like everything is fair game.

[sandnsea]

8. I like those bumper stickers

Those are really classy!

[citizen snips]

9. We all know who is sponsoring them.

Take a wild guess.

[WilliamPitt]

10. They'd have done this to any of our candidates.

[CatWoman]

14. I'm aware of that

but I wanted to let people know what's going on behind the scenes.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

11. Do they NOT realize their candidate's father was business partners with

THE BIN FUCKING LADEN FAMILY????

What about all those pics at Kennebunkport and on the Bush family yachts??

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

12. More about Bossie

David Bossie, Vast Right-Wing Conspirator of the Week


May 7, 1998 --- New York (APJP) -- So just who is this David Bossie character?
David Bossie --
a smile only a
mother could love
The Doc thought he'd fill you in on another charter member of the vast right-wing conspiracy by providing some "fun facts" about David Bossie, the disgraced and dismissed chief investigator for Hoosier Hooligan Dan Burton's House Government Reform & Oversight Committee.

Bossie started his political career (almost) innocently enough in 1988 when he served as the National Youth Director of Senator Bob Dole's unsuccessful presidential campaign.

In 1992, Bossie was working for the right-wing organization Citizens United (the group that "invented" Willie Horton). As executive director of Citizens United chairman Floyd Brown's "Presidential Victory Committee," he used taped conversations allegedly between then-Governor Bill Clinton and Gennifer Flowers as part of an advertising and "800" number scheme to smear Clinton. The tapes have since been discredited because they were edited and doctored. A direct mailing from Citizens United using this material was made to look as if it were an "official" mailing from Bush campaign -- and the Bush people alerted the FEC to the mailings in an effort to stop them!

Bossie spent a great deal of time in 1992 in Arkansas, digging dirt on Clinton. David Corn reports in the May 6, 1998 issue of Salon that "at one point, Bossie got into a fistfight in Arkansas with a private detective who claimed Bossie had welshed on a $10,000 payment for anti-Clinton material."

That same year, Bossie harassed the family of a suicide victim. "An anonymous and untraceable letter" was faxed to some 30 news organizations "claiming Clinton had had an affair with a former law student who committed suicide 15 years ago," an "emotionally distraught young woman, seven-months pregnant" named Susan Coleman. Only after the fact of the fax campaign did Bossie attempt to contact the family for "confirmation," and did so in a repetitive and unrelenting manner suggestive more of harrassment than fact-checking. Bossie, with help from former Washington DC police officer James Murphy, went so far as to follow Susan's mother to a hospital in Augusta, Georgia, where her husband was seriously ill and recovering from a stroke. They "burst into the sick man's room and began questioning the shaken mother about her daughter's suicide." (Source: CBS News, July 13, 1992, quoted at The Allodium web site)

Not long into the Clinton Presidency, Citizens United produced the video "Clinton Chronicles," based largely on dirt Bossie had been digging in Arkansas. The video, filled with a plethora of factual errors and uncorroborated or disproven rumors, has been almost completely discredited.

By 1994, Bossie found himself working for Senator Lauch Faircloth -- and his penchant for self-promotion was already showing. Bossie claimed that Citizens United had fed Whitewater information (much of which turned out to be misleading, incomplete or untrue) to "the top fifty major publications, networks, and editorial boards... We've provided the same material on the Hill both on the House and Senate side."

http://www.americanpolitics.com/050798DISpatch.html

[mot78]

13. This group can't attack Kerry on anything substansive so they attack his

character.