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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:05 AM Original message |
The controversy awaiting Michigan and Florida... |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. If she tries to seat those delegates, she loses me. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. She is presently counting them in her totals....? |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. No, she is not. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. You are positive about that? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. She is not counting them, please don't spread misinformation. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Well, they do show MI and Fl in her column on the TV .... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Which TV? What channel? Do you have a link? That's proposterous. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. MSNBC and CNN |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. CNN online does not have MI or FL in Clinton's column |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. It was colored in in dark blue for Hillary... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. The talking heads have been parroting this unlikely scenario for weeks now. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Can either candidate get the necessary delegates without Fl or MI? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #22 |
27. I hope so. If not, long running primary season, and brokered convention. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:43 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I agree... DNC needs to put their foot down and require |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Of course.... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Rotate each election |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Both Obama and Hillary said they would try to seat those delegates. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. I am not aware of Obama EVER SAYING THAT...Link Please? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Here you go: |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
4. they won't be seated until the nominee is picked |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:51 AM Response to Reply #4 |
12. If they actually come in to play then no nominee is chosen and we have a brokered convention. |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #12 |
18. As close as the present race... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Someone will have a majority (by one vote), a perfect tie is unlikely. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
5. If it comes down to super delegates and/or FL and MI, it will be brokered, anyway. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
17. Exactly, brokered convention if MI or FL matter. |
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TomClash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
7. If those delegates are seated before the nomination is decided . . . |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. They won't be, that's against the rules, they can only be seated by popular vote. |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
8. they will be seated ... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Constitution does not apply to presidential preference primaries |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 10:53 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. This is why it's paramount that either candidate have a majority going into the DNC. |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #9 |
32. I will disagree about the constitution ... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:41 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Presidential Primaries are by party rules. |
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JorgeTheGood (736 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Agree they make the rules ... |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Then why aren't all primaries open primaries? |
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stillrockin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 10:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
43. THEY set the rules in MI and FL: move up primary, delagates don't count. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Why can't Michigan and Florida run new primaries in the late spring or early summer? |
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Pathwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. And just who will pay for it? Michigan is broke. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I assume primaries are pretty expensive (thought I don't know why SC conducts |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Another primary would require Michigan and Florida legislators to enact law for it to happen. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. They shouldn't have to, they broke the rules, they deserve the punishment. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. My impression is that it is Hillary's supporters who want them to be players, since |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 12:00 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. "Punishment"? I hope the delegates don't get seated... |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
30. If the delegates from FL or MI in any way decide the nomination, I will quit the Democratic party. |
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Meshuga (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-06-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #30 |
38. It's going to be bullshit |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-07-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
45. They can't change the original decision - It will appear corrupt |
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