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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:45 AM
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It's a campaign slogan. That's all.
You know, campaign slogans: "I like Ike" "All the way with LBJ"

Well, "Yes we can" is simply a campaign slogan. So don't ask what it means. That's just silly gotcha crap. And Obama supporters, don't fall for that shit.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:48 AM
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1. Si se puede!
he stole it from Dennis this campaign

I noted that since Dennis ended his campaign, Barack has picked up several of his themes

like "Yes we can" and "Right on Day-1"

Can say I blame him, they are good
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:53 AM
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3. Did Dennis steal it from the Disney channel?


That's where I first heard it.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:17 PM
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14. Cesar Chavez
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:19 PM
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16. Tells you how young and inexperienced I am!
:hi:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 01:02 PM
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17. yep
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:54 PM
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22. And it's a helluva lot more than a slogan
People who have been at the bottom and had others believe in them and show them how to fight their way out of despair know that.

I hate this OP. I really do.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:51 AM
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2. Ahh, shades of Brando
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:03 PM by Tarc
Voters: What're you rebelling against, Obama?
Obama: Whaddya got?

That "Yes we can" slogan is a great one, yes, as it epitomizes his campaign to a T. It does not stand for changing anything specifically, it just stands for "change" itself.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:55 AM
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4. "Let the conversation begin" was so much more substantial.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:02 PM
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8. In many ways, it was
Inviting the voters into a dialogue on what's wrong and how to fix it vs. "Let's hope for change" ?

Yea, the former is sounding pretty good right about now.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:12 PM
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9. It was extraordinarily misleading, if that's what you took from it.
There was no "dialogue." Clinton has not changed her plans based on voter feedback; she has, rather, formulated them and presented them. As in all races, it's a monologue that we can vote on.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:14 PM
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11. I'm afraid I don't really expect comprehension from you
Edited on Mon Feb-04-08 12:14 PM by Tarc
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:15 PM
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12. Hand-waving is not refutation.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:56 AM
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5. Name one presidential campaign slogan that was
fraught with meaning. There aren't any. Campaign slogans have a long history in this country. Anyone looking for meaning in a campaign slogan is an idiot.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:57 AM
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6. I disagree. I think this one has meaning.
This one says that, "yes we can come together as a country and make change".

It's clear as day to me.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:12 PM
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10. I think "Tippecanoe and Tyler too" was pretty straightforward.
I mean, that's what you got.
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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 11:57 AM
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7. LOL! Dont ask what it means...
That about sums up the entire Obama campaign.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:18 PM
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15. Yes, "I like Ike" was so meaningful.
Why not educate yourself on the history of American political campaigns. This has nothing to do with Obama's positions on issues. It's a bullshit canard. And you are disingeuous and simply parroting mindless bullshit.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:50 PM
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19. Isn't the Clinton campaign now using, "Yes, she can?"
Don't ask what it means. :eyes:
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 12:16 PM
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13. It is hypocrisy

coming from the mouth of a corporate shill. Anyone who thinks that an Obama, or Clinton, administration is going to be worker friendly is in for a serious disappointment, including the unions backing them.
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:48 PM
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18. "You have the power" great words from a great candidate
Howard Dean. Obama seems to have some of the same ideas as Dean. It's the idea that we do count if we stand up and demand to be counted. Why are so many people disgusted with Congress, because we have been ignored. It is business as usual and many are tired of it. When you are bucking the media it's hard for the people to be heard.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:52 PM
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20. If it doesn't mean anything, then why use it?
Seriously...?

You summed up my extreme nervousness about the entire Obama campaign: "'Yes we can'" is simply a campaign slogan. So don't ask what it means."

I must know what it means. And if it really means "nothing," well...
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:56 PM
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23. Seriously, American political campaigns- ALL of them
are at least one part theatre and hype to one part substance. Do some reading about 19th and early 20th century presidential campaigns. quite fascinating. Campaign slogans are often meant to capture a certain sense of the campaign- but that's it. Hillary's campaign is no different.
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Sapphocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:06 PM
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24. I know, so...
...why are half the Obama supporters so possessive about a slogan that A) doesn't mean anything, and B) isn't original anyway? Rhetorical question, I guess.

(Btw, I can think of one old slogan that really did mean something: "Tippecanoe and Tyler too!")
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:08 PM
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25. beats me
why. I guess it's all part of the fierce competition thing.
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 04:53 PM
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21. Si se puede!
There are powerful associations if you are Chicano and/or Californian.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 05:10 PM
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26. The problem with "yes we can":
The vagueness of the speech behind it. It's as if the saying is drawing attention to itself, but one is left wondering what is really there.
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