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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:16 AM Original message |
Breaking: Obama expands lead on Clinton in California (Reuters). Leads by 6 now. |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
1. Hopefully this will translate into an Obama win on Tuesday. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. And some HillBot will come back with another poll in, 5...4....3....2...1 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I expect these polls to reflect reality. |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:19 AM Response to Original message |
3. I don't put much stock into polls |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. Something big may be happening. |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
5. Not only is that surprising, but Romney is beating McCain by 8% in California |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. CNN reported McCain was ahead by at least 10%earlier today |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:25 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Yeah, and there are CA polls showing Clinton up 9 that aren't very old |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
44. Most polls have Obama up, or tied with her. |
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Hutzpa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:15 AM Response to Reply #12 |
57. We have to be careful how |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
64. When did you last get polled? I never have, no one I know ever has. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
6. If Obama wins California he will probably be considered the nominal "winner" of Super Tuesday |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Yes, but if Hillary were to somehow win, they would return to the delegate count stuff. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. Yup that will be the Obamite claims |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:49 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Obama was down double digits in California just two weeks ago |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. You don't understand, there was no "momentum" until SC. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
51. Calif has 441 Democratic delegates, assigned proportionately. It's hard to "overhype" that number. |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. But if it's close they will get virtually the same number of delegates |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:08 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. No, you don't get it. If Obama wins by 51% he's the big winner. If Hillary does... |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:16 AM Response to Reply #53 |
58. I agree with you 100% that will be the narrative |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
62. I just hope for your sake the MSM doesn't drop you like it did Dean and Kerry. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:37 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. one big difference is that Obama is bringing in a million $ a day |
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usregimechange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. Yeah! |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
8. omg.omg.omg.omg.omg. |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #8 |
13. I can't do it, either. I'm so fucking nervous. |
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mahina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Calm and encouraging, no fear baby. Be the love. |
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sab3rX (28 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. I know exactly what you mean; the higher my hopes are, the more afraid I am |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
48. I'm hoping sooooooooo badly he takes CA. I think he can do it. |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. I am taking work off until Wed |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. loveangelc we have to hope. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
27. We are the |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. Oh I'm hoping beyond hope right now lol. |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Me too! n/t |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. Hes also up 5 in MO and tied in NJ |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. And this poll was before Maria Shriver endorsed Obama in L.A. today. |
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my3boyz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Thank you so much |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:28 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Zogby is a brilliant pollster. He picks up trends better than anyone. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. That could be the cover story of the LA Times |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:23 AM Response to Original message |
17. We have to do the work |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:24 AM Response to Original message |
18. I wonder what affect the absentee ballots will have |
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Drunken Irishman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I think the number is 25%. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. A new Suffolk poll has Obama up one and included absentee voters. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. How did they poll absentee voters? |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I dont know the exact method, but out of the 700 surveyed, 140 said they had voted already. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. They would be a smaller subset, 140 absentee isn't statistically significant. |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:30 AM Response to Reply #18 |
61. Not everyone votes on who is "winning" according to the media... |
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ForRusty (72 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:25 AM Response to Original message |
21. At this stage of the game honestly these polls aren't to trustworthy. The real show is on Tuesday. |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. I would like to believe this but Romney leading McCain like that |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I'm supporting Obama, but |
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loveangelc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. welcome. and im skeptical too because of the romney thing too. |
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Metric System (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
28. Amazing! Especially given the resistance Obama has faced from the MSM & political establishment! |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:35 AM Response to Reply #28 |
63. MSM wouldn't want Bama to be up against McCain would they? |
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TeamJordan23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
30. James Carville said on MTP that a loss in CA could be devastating for Hillary. |
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
32. Barrrrrrrack the VOTE!!!! |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
33. I wonder if this Romney lead is legit or not. I hope it is. Maybe this is the conservative backlash |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Yeah |
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The_Casual_Observer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:40 AM Response to Original message |
35. Up 30 points in the last week? Sounds like bullshit to me. |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. sounds like Big Mo to everyone else |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:50 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Oh, you'd be surprised at the power of the MSM. :) |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. You are Johnny one note, aren't you. n/t |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. You can call me Joshy One Note. :) |
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psychopomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
54. As California goes, so goes the nation |
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ariesgem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
56. Great News! |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
59. I'm hopeful, but I don't know if we can trust the polls |
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candice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 02:29 AM Response to Original message |
60. These polls are SO exciting. Bama leads by 95% now! |
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krkaufman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-04-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
66. Ditto other post. Ghosts of run-up to New Hampshire primary. n/t |
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