Clark/Edwards Ticket

[metisnation]

We have to win the south folks. As much as I like Dean I dont think he can win the south. This seems logical at this point. I know that this will be deaned shortly..we know we are going to win most if not all northern states. We need to pick up a couple down south to win the election.

:dem:

I will vote for anyone who makes it out of the primary but I like this scenario.

[The Sushi Bandit]

1. I like this one!

makes sense

[bearfartinthewoods]

51. unbalanced...two southerners is redundant

[leyton]

52. A southerner and a westerner might work

These are the areas where we need the biggest boost.

[Clark Can WIN]

67. You mean like Clinton/Gore?

That one worked out pretty good for 8 years.

[shivaji]

65. I like it too, but since Dean will be nominated, it does not matter

[oasis]

2. winner (n/t)

[DoveTurnedHawk]

3. I Like Clark/Graham a Lot Better

Graham is more popular in FL than Edwards is in NC. FL has many more electoral votes than NC. Graham also has all of Senatorial experience, executive experience and foreign policy experience, while Edwards only has Senatorial experience. Finally, Graham never kept people like Hugh Shelton on his payroll, and refused to disavow his baseless smears.

DTH

[Jerseycoa]

7. I like Clark/Graham

I also like Clark/Kerry (no disrespect to Kerry supporters). It would be a good geographical ticket in addition to all the other positives.

[The_Joker]

10. Graham? No way.

I like Edwards -- helps pull in the South -- but if you like Bob Graham, then you don't know Bob Graham. Being a journalist in Florida, I like to think I'm pretty up on the dude. Folks, according to HIS OWN SENATE.GOV WEBSITE, Bob Graham is one of the primary authors of the Patriot Act and was the sponsor of Countersurveillance 34.

In other words, he's for allowing the government to walk all over you (Patriot Act) and he's for you not knowing anything about the gov't (Countersurveillance). Look it up. Graham gets zero support out of me. When he dropped out of the race, I did like Bartcop and had a shot of Chinaco.

[DoveTurnedHawk]

11. I'll Concede I Don't Know Much About Him Other Than Broad Strokes

Although I will tell you up front that I am not a one-issue voter, by any means. I still think Graham has some formidable advantages as VP, although he is by no means my only choice, and maybe not even my first choice. I just like him better than Edwards. :-)

DTH

[BobbyJay]

4. I hear "Ain't That America" by John Mellencamp when I see this ticket

[Lefty48197]

5. We can win the election without winning one single southern state

But I do like both Clark and Edwards. I think Clark/Richardson or Clark/Gephardt would be a good ticket too.

[BobbyJay]

6. I agree, places like NC, SC, VA, GA are LOST CAUSES.

Why waste time and money there?

We need to be focusing on NV, AZ, NM, OH, WV.


I like Clark-Richardson myself.

[angee_is_mad]

36. kick

[Kahuna]

42. Clark/Richardson is a slam dunk!

Are you kidding me? Gravitas up the ying yang.

[LandOLincoln]

71. No, no, no!

You leave Bill Richardson alone. He's our guv and we need him a hell of a lot more than the national ticket does.

Seems to me we've got an embarrassment of riches nationally, while poor New Mexico is just beginning to see a little light at the end of the tunnel, thanks to Bill--and if that light ain't a freight train, freight train, goin' so fast--& about to run us down as it has turned out to be so often in the past.

We might let President Clark have him in Clark's second term, but not now.

No way.

Bugger off.

With all due respect, of course. :spank:

[Kahuna]

41. Anybody can do that if you ASSUME (bad practice) that..

you can win most of the blue states and some mid western states. That's a very risky strategy that really didn't serve us well in 2000. Remember 2000?

[Clark Can WIN]

68. Clark/Rihcardson would be pretty sweet too.

Lots of excellent choices out there for Wes.

[nator311]

8. Problem is that

I seriously doubt that America wants a personal injury lawyer in the White House. The problem with Bob Graham is that his personality may seem strange to a lot of people. I am a Clark supporter, and think that Mary Landreiu, Evan Bayh, Max Baucus, George Mitchell and even John Kerry would make great runningmates.

[bearfartinthewoods]

39. EXCEPT

this "personal injury lawyer" has spent years fighting for the average guy against HMOs, drug companies, and insurance companies.

anyone who has ever been denied treatment or suffered from the restrictions of HMO's will see him as a hero and well prepared to take on the healthcare issues.

Edwards is no ambulance chaser and it's gonna be very hard to paint him as such.

[paulk]

9. while I like both candidates

I'd really rather not see two southerners on the ticket. One should be enough.

[The_Joker]

13. Graham's personality is the problem?!

Please. See my earlier post. Bob Graham is a scumbag. He helped write the Patriot Act, and he sponsored Countersurveillance 34. He can bite it for all I care.

[BobbyJay]

14. Edwards helped author it, too.

[The_Joker]

15. Nah...

Edwards voted for it, but he didn't help write it. Remember, Patriot's been out there, waiting to be voted on for a number of years. This is only Edwards' first term in the Senate.

[BobbyJay]

17. Edwards has been there since '98

Look up info on Edwards. He helped co-author the thing.

[JohnLocke]

20. WRONG

[BobbyJay]

25. Oh, maybe it was the IWR he co-authored?

He was visible in his support of the Patriot Act.

[AP]

32. You're basing this on what?

?

[AP]

31. not according to Elizabeth Edwards at Edwards's blog.

[surfermaw]

48. Edwards Had Nothing to do with writing the P.Act

Herd Elizabeth Edwards...say so. It will take Clark and Edwards behind Dean to carry the south, with the three, and a deep recession especially in South Carolina and North Carolina...we could carry Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina...and I think with Clark as his Sec of State and Edwards as Vice President ...Dean could win the election, or Clark and Edwards could win the election...We are going to have to go into the south and do a lot of splaining as Desi said..in I love Lucy. It is going to take time and a lot of talking ,between Dean and Edwards...+ lots of help from Clark, we can carry the south.

[AP]

30. Elizabeth Edwards blogged that her husband did not author any part of PA

it's just a lie that caught hold.

[Kathleen04]

12. That's my favorite ticket! n/t

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

16. I would rather see more regional balance on a ticket

A Southerner and a Northerner, or Westerner, would be better.

[arewethereyet]

18. Edwards has stated that hsi is not interested in the VP spot

I tend to believe him. He has a plan for his life and he does know how to stick with the plan. And, so far, the plan has worked pretty well.

[spooky3]

21. It's possible he means it but it is also possible his mind

will change if he is not the nominee and he is ok with the person who is.

[arewethereyet]

23. anything can happen but I believe what he says on this

the guy is a doer, a leader. I don't think that they will be able to make a case for it being an interesting position. And I really doubt that these two could work together. Too much ego.

[Deesh]

19. Going with your ticket for a minute --

-- I had an image of the Vice Presidential debate, and saw Edwards and Cheney up on a stage.

Cheney: bulbous, monotoned, remote, reptilian, scowling, unapproachable.

Edwards: temperate, good-looking, folksy, affirming, easy-to-smile, warm-natured.

Your ticket isn't my first choice, but if it happens, President Cheney is in trouble.

[Clark Can WIN]

69. That's the truth right there

Clark: Brilliant, articulate, charming
Bush: Uncurious, incoherent, snarky


Edwards: Vibrant, personable, persuasive
Cheney: Diseased, corrupt, indifferent

[rumguy]

22. that would be an incredible ticket!

[leyton]

24. Eh..

If Clark were the nominee, he would be better balanced by someone with executive experience.

Frankly, as an Edwards fan who doesn't think he'll really get the nomination, I'm hoping that Edwards will be made AG, and then he can return to NC to succeed Mike Easley as governor or something.

Hey, a guy can hope.

[porkrind]

26. How about Clark/Kucinich?

My two favorite candidates!

[BobbyJay]

29. I want Kuchie to run for Senate in Ohio

or at least hold his House seat there. We need him in Congress.

[angee_is_mad]

27. interesting

Respond if anyone agrees with this. I feel that a Clark/Edwards ticket would have a good possibility of winning the Carolinas, then an Edward running for Prez would.

Also with Edwards as VP, Clark would have a better chance because southerners could and would identify with them. They would not have to depend on their endorsers to go out and tell the people how they understand their pain. Both of them have lived it and probably know people personally who are still living it. Edwards was born in S.C. and is a N.C. senator. Also the Carolinas are military states.

My gosh, I am just drooling thinking about the possibilities!!!!

[angee_is_mad]

28. kick

[AP]

33. Edwards connects to a broad range of Americans when he's actually given

the right platform -- ie, when he gets to make multiple-paragraph length arguments.

It's a skill that I haven't seen in ANY of the other candidates. I wouldn't waste this talent on the person on the bottom of the ticket. He has all the right symbols, AND he has the skills. I'd put the person with the skills and the symbols at top of the ticket, and I'd put the person with the great symbols, but the OK skills on the bottom of the ticket.

[leyton]

47. Exactly

Many of the candidates could out-debate Bush but Edwards would look good doing it.

It's unfortunate that he hasn't gotten enough attention or momentum to generate real support, because I think Edwards is the second choice for a lot of people, and his nomination would unite the party.

[Sophree]

61. Yes, reverse it- Edwards/Clark

is the strongest ticket out of all possible combinations.

[Clark Can WIN]

70. I would be fine with an Edwards/Clark ticket but

he's not been able to get the broad based support and cold hard cash the way Clark has.

No votes have yet been cast and Edwards could catch fire yet. I'd be happy to vote for either of them in the GE.

[CoffeePlease2004]

34. It could not lose

Clark/Edwards would carry all the Gore states, plus Florida and Arkansas. It could also carry LA,NC,SC,VA,WV, and maybe CO

The Reason it could not lose is because it would do three major things. First, it would steal states in the South that Bush could not win, including Florida. Second, it would force Bush to go on the defense in southern states wasting money. Third, spending time and money defending southern states prevents him from making in roads to states like Iowa, Oregon, Wisconsin, and Pennslyvania.
Clark and Edwards are also excellent at fundraising, have not attacked each other in the campaign, and they are not that bad looking guys either.

Personally, I would like a Clark/Hillary Ticket. But we need to focus on winning.

Mike

[angee_is_mad]

35. Stay focus Mike! lol

The points that you made are the reason why I am drooling right now. For some reason I never thought about those two. I wondered about a Clark/Kerry or a Clark/Gephardt but a Clark/Edwards is just totally delicious!!

And yes they are a goodlooking bunch. They would have the women votes sewed up and would attract the men also with Clarks military background.

[RageAgainstTheirMachine]

37. I agree

I also think a Clark/Rubin ticket would be a sure winner

[ClarkUeberAlles]

38. I agree

I don't really know Edwards platform but those two just look good together. They will surely have the vote of people who vote on appearance.

[Kahuna]

40. I have no problem with it. Edwards has an excellent grasp..

of the issues. I think he would be great. It'd be like Clinton/Gore all over again. Coming to the rescue to save us from the bushistas. :D

[CalebHayes]

43. Thats the one... A winner in 2004

[abburdlen]

44. Edwards not that great in NC

I'm here in NC and don't see Edwards all that popular here. His voting record has been pretty thin since he started campaigning. I think he made a decent senator but jumped the gun running for pres.

My dream ticket is Clark/Cuomo (Sr.)

[AP]

46. Parts of this aren't true.

Edwards polls really well in NC, and they're getting better.

His voting record was among the best until September, but they've all been missing September-October votes.

Edwards still hasn't missed a vote in which his vote would have made a difference.

[webkev]

78. your site is great

I love the intro :)

[Red_Storm]

45. I like Clark/Kerry in 2004

[Killarney]

77. That's a good one!

:toast:
That would be fantastic.

[TexasSissy]

49. Both from the south? I don't think so.

While I love the idea of Clark/Edwards, personally, I think Clark would go for someone to help in the north. Probably some congressperson or former congressperson that southerners aren't too familiar with, but that northerners are. So I wouldn't be familiar with who those possibilities might be.

Graham would not be helpful, either, to Clark. (But would be for a candidate from the north.)

[TexasSissy]

50. Also, Edwards supported the recently passed Medicare farce of a bill,

didn't he? That would not be helpful to Clark, esp. since Clark doesn't like the bill.

[chimpymustgo]

53. Edwards did NOT support the bill. I am SICK of this!

What is with these MYTHS about this incredible candidate?

Edwards did NOT write, or co-write the Patriot Act.
He did NOT write the IWR.
He did NOT vote for the Medicare bill. In fact, Edwards, Kerry, and Lieberman left the campaign trail to come back to DC to make impassioned speeches against the bill.

It is really unfair to throw those charges against someone - especially such a wonderful man as John Edwards.

[Sophree]

62. you tell em, chimpy!

Edwards stayed and missed the debate to vote AGAINST the medicare bill.

And didn't Lieberman skip the debate, pretending to stay in DC for the vote and then didn't vote at all. Whattawuss!!!!

Edwards- a man of true and enduring character.

[TexasSissy]

54. Maybe.

I've had second thoughts on this, since I remembered that Clinton/Gore was a southern/southern ticket.

[stickdog]

55. Clark is a political cipher. And skipping debates sure doesn't help. (nt)

[incapsulated]

57. Just couldn't resist

The need to say something nasty in a Clark thread, eh? Even if it's completely off-topic.

[SCB]

63. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[in_cog_ni_to]

56. I would hold my nose for that VP.

Edwards hired Hugh Shelton to be an advisor for his campaign. We ALL know what General Shelton has done to our guy Clark. Also, I wonder what Clark thinks of Edwards hiring Shelton? :grr:

[incapsulated]

58. That's why..

It probably won't happen. His campaign fired off an angry letter about it.

It's a shame, because I think it would be a great ticket.

[in_cog_ni_to]

59. Do you have any idea

how the Edwards camp responded to the letter?

If ONLY Edward's had not done that. It was a stab in Clark's back. :(

[incapsulated]

60. I never heard about any reply

They may have made one, but I don't know.

[spooky3]

74. He didn't "hire" him. Shelton is also from NC and they have

known each other for many years.

[SCB]

64. Reagan held his nose after Bush Sr. hit him with

"voodoo economics" and went on to win.

[in_cog_ni_to]

73. I remember that,

but I see this Shelton issue as a little more "personal" than the Reagan/Bush "voodoo economics" policy issue.

[Lobo_13]

66. I don't think that Edwards

would attach himself to a losing campaign.

What the hell is the point of being the VP if the campaign just can't get it done.

[in_cog_ni_to]

72. Clark will win,

that's why he would attach himself to the Clark campaign. He will wipe the floor with the mindless wonder.

[Lobo_13]

75. and if wishes were wings

frogs wouldn't bump their asses when they landed. (My mom says that alot.)

The Clark campaign has made strategic errors from day one that doomed him.

[Leilani]

76. All those strategic errors

sure have hurt Clark's fundraising ability, growing support, increased media attention.

Wow, has he blown it.

[funky_bug]

79. What errors?

Yes do tell... what "strategical errors" have been made? Seems to me he's not suffering any of the silliness the Dean backers are floundering in. Talk about a flip flop...

[CalebHayes]

80. you've got it!

[CalebHayes]

81. you've got it!