Obama distorts in Denver

[KennedyGuy]

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/1/30/23229/8465

Barack Obama spoke in Denver today. Here's what he said:

“It’s time for new leadership that understands that the way to win a debate with John McCain is not by nominating someone who agreed with him on voting for the war in Iraq; who agreed with him in voting to give George Bush the benefit of the doubt on Iran; who agrees with him in embracing the Bush-Cheney policy of not talking to leaders we don’t like, and who actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed.”
Hillary's refutes him point by point on her website.

This is a dangerous road for Obama. Check out his past support for Rumsfeld and Bush, expressed during the confirmation process of John Ashcroft. He even calls Rumsfeld "not out of the mainstream." (video here)

"The proof in the pudding is looking at the treatment of the other Bush nominees," Obama said. "I mean for the most part, I for example do not agree with a missile defense system, but I dont think that soon-to-be-Secretary Rumsfeld is in any way out of the mainstream of American political life. And I would argue that the same would be true for the vast majority of the Bush nominees, and I give him credit for that."
I would say "pot meet kettle" except his statements about Hillary were not true. Hillary has been the most vocal critic of President Bush and his policies among all the Democratic candidates. From the early debates, while the others criticized her because they perceived her to be the frontrunner, she kept her eye on the real enemy: President Bush, his Administration and its failed and misguided policies.

[Tweed]

1. KennedyGuy, I hope your brain doesn't explode

But Clinton voted for YEA for Rumsfeld.

This is an insanely stupid argument to make.

[KennedyGuy]

3. thanks for the concern...

[Tweed]

4. wow, don't even address the point

Typical Clinton style politics, just try and tear everything down, refuse to discuss logic.

[KennedyGuy]

5. where did you address the point?

you had a rather mindless attack Obama style yourself..
I mean..is insanely stupid the best an obamababy can do?

[NJSecularist]

2. It's about time Obama draws a contrast between him and Hillary on the Iraq war

I don't know what took him so long. That is one of his most valuable weapons in this campaign.

[Lucinda]

8. I think it because the response will be that he kept voting to fund it & made no effort to stop it

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. Thanks. Can't wait til she destorys him with this tomorrow

[DemCam]

7. me too

[emilyg]

10. Yes.

[lapfog_1]

9. Refuted on her website...

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

The refutation consists of "Well, Obama actually voted the same way Hillary did on Iraq issues"..

Which is true!

But hardly the point. And doesn't address what Obama said in the paragraph you quoted.

Obama did not vote for the IWR, Clinton did. Obama didn't vote that way because he was in the Senate. And, going by what he SAID at the the time, he didn't think that it was a good idea to go to war in Iraq. Clinton says that she voted because she was "told" that Bush would use it to negotiate with Iraq. She trusted Bush... which should disqualify her to be President (lack of judgment).

[stillcool]

11. Rummy still is "part of the mainstream...

of American political life"...and he has been for decades. Where you been?
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