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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:56 PM
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Poll question: John Edwards Should Be John Kerry's Running Mate-Do You Agree?
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 05:05 PM by DemocratSinceBirth
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:57 PM
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1. I think he just too a BIG step out in front, with that speech.
:)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:59 PM
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6. What A Awesome Speech....
Part Bill Clintom

Part John Kennedy

(and)


Part Robert Francis Kennedy.....
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:59 PM
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7. I kept thinking...
"Bobby Kennedy". :)
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:01 PM
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8. RFK Was Great....
but John Edwards is a powerful public speaker....


Bobby Kennedy's passion was more quiet, cerebral and intense
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:57 PM
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2. Hands down. Kerry/Edwards. Woohoo!
nt
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CalebHayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:57 PM
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3. Can we at least think about some other options?
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:58 PM
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4. Well...yes
I really like Bob Graham but I think Edwards would bring an energy to the campaign that Sen Graham couldn't. Also Edward built tremendous name recognition during the primaries so we don't have to spin our wheels building that familarity with the voters.

Soooooo....sure, he's as good as it gets.
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Cat Lewis Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:19 PM
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17. Bob Graham?
Graham may be a plus, in terms of his popularity in Florida and his Senate committee experience, but he has a BIG minus that would more than cancel that out.

What was wrong with Quayle, Perot's VP choice and many others? They were idiosyncratic, and this allowed the opposition to paint them as ridiculous. Graham is the same. He'd break out into song and then start writing his eternal notes: "Ate two eggs for breakfast. Went to bathroom and combed my hair...".

The media would have a field day, making him an object of ridicule.

I can't think of a more damaging choice for VP.




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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:06 PM
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34. idiosyncratic
like Ashcroft being afraid of calico cats?
like Ashcroft recording patriotic music?

yeah, that's had a big impact.

don't misunderstand. I respect Graham's honesty and respect his service but I'm not going to take an advocacy role.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 04:59 PM
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5. Ruinnig mate?
Oh, he's not that bad, is he?:silly:
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nator311 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:09 AM
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42. yes he is
It's why Gore decided against selecting him as a running mate in 2000-thought that the press would be over absorbed with his journals.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:01 PM
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9. I personally think Bob Graham would be a better choice.
More of an attack dog, from more of a swing state, with more experience. But Edwards would be a good choice as well.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:02 PM
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10. He was incredible!
I really think he's the one!
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:03 PM
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13. He sure sounds like it
What a fantastic speech!:D
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:25 PM
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37. He really did give a great speech yesterday.
I was listening on NPR and I was really ticked off when they cut him off. I'm really looking forward to hearing him speak at the convention...
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:02 PM
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11. In 2008, yes, in 04 no, Attorney General
in 08 NC will be more moderate as long as we have a successful dem administration. But until then It's not at all likely to go tossup much less pro Kerry.

Bob Graham should run as vp in 08, win Floridas 27 votes for us(not meaning as people always do that we shouldn't try for the midwest and southwest), and then retire in 08 and have Edwards or someone else as vp
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:04 PM
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15. The last NC poll showed Edwards beating Bush head-to-head.
15 EVs are nothing to sneeze at, not to mention the HUGE slap in the face it would be to the Repugs...
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Bombtrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:43 PM
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29. at the top of the ticket JE does, at the top JK loses by 11
27 votes in Florida are pure swing evs NC's 15 aren't
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Cat Lewis Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:26 PM
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23. Edwards As Attorney General?
Oh, no!

First of all, it would be wasting his greatest talent. An Attorney General doesn't do that much speaking, and this is where Edwards shines. He'd be far better in a more high-profile job.

My fondest dream is to see Hillary as Attorney General. There is no other person on the face of the earth that would bug the wingnuts more in that position.

They'd go nuts - I'd LOVE it!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:43 PM
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27. Sure There Is
Bring back Janet Reno if you really want to drive them up the wall.
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littlejoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:02 PM
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12. Only if Kerry agrees.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:03 PM
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14. Absolutely NOT.
He won't win his home state, and there are others who can help Kerry a helluva lot more than Edwards.
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Cuban_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:05 PM
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16. You keep saying that, and yet...
the last statewide presidential-preference poll showed Edwards BEATING Bush in NC.
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:21 PM
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18. And you haven't provided a link to the poll
...or a history of the poll showing consistency!

EDWARDS would suck as a VP choice. He offers nothing that Kerry doesn't already have--and NC would be a dog fight!

The wise choice, the strategic choice, would be someone who can easily win their home state...that ain't Edwards.

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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:26 PM
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22. I'm quite certain he didn't bookmark it.
But he's right, and FWIW, I think it was surveyusa.com .
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:35 PM
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25. He didn't win in the poll...
...it was a statistical tie with a MOE of 3.9% with the difference between the two 3%, and a sampling of 654 voters! Puhhhleeeeeeze!

That is hardly representative of the whole state, or a trend in Edward's favor. Where is the trend? Where is the large sampling? Where is the solid methodology?

One tiny sample poll makes you think Edwards could win North Carolina from the GOP? NO WAY.

Kerry needs to choose a VP that is CERTAIN to win his home state, not a VP that will either lose badly for be in a dogfight for his homestate, and who won't help bring any other red states into the blue column.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:39 PM
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26. Oh, horsefeathers!
Edited on Wed Mar-03-04 05:39 PM by Padraig18
Their methodology is sound, and he was WINNING within the MOE. I thought you Clarkies were all about who wins, numberwise? Isn't that what pissed you all off so badly about OK, because Edwards claimed a tie for 1st before the results were certified?

Your 'hardon' for Edwards is so obvious, I'm about to trip over it...

:eyes:

edit: typos
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:58 PM
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31. I think your bias is obvious.
How convenient is it, since you brought it up, that you believe a POLL showing 47% to 50% with a Margin of Error of 3.9% is NOT A TIE, but an ELECTION, that does not have a MOE, and is seperated by 1,300 VOTES, IS A TIE?

And on the Edwards website, it REMAINED listed as a tie for first place beyond the week after the mandatory recount?

YOUR bias is obvious, as a poll that has a MOE is considered a 'win', and a vote that does not have a MOE is considered a 'tie'.

BullshiP.

Oh, and he WAS NOT WINNING WITHIN THE MARGIN OF ERROR. Check your facts. Polls have a margin of error, and the end result does not factor the margin of error. The margin of error is considered AFTER the % seperating the two candidates--not BEFORE.

This arguement is getting ridiculous because you are no longer making sense and your arguement completely lacks reasoned thinking.


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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:01 PM
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33. Your argument never did make sense.
You take a poll that shows a man winning, piss on it and make black into white, but then turn around and say an uncertified vote total ISN'T a tie for 1st. Make up your mind--- are we gonna use apples or oranges in this little math game?

:wtf:
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cosmokramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 09:13 PM
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39. Since when is an uncertified vote a tie?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...your lack of reason is astounding! There is no such thing as a 'tie' by 1,300 votes!
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Josh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:23 PM
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36. Yes, but not as VP -
It's a very different story. I like Edwards, but you need someone willing to go on the attack as VP, and someone who should be able to carry their home state on the ticket. Edwards won't carry NC as VP; as President, maybe, but not as VP. Clark can carry Arkansas; Graham *might* be able to carry Florida, but I'm not certain he gets it for us - again, because he'd be the VP.

The top of the ticket is what matters. If someone can just eek out a win in their home state on top, it's going to be much more difficult to get it as the running mate.
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Vittorio Donating Member (73 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:22 PM
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19. Absolutely.
I think Wes Clark would make a great prospect for VP as well.
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:25 PM
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21. Better than Graham
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:23 PM
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20. I think he became Kerry's de facto VP today.
Who could have watched that magnificient speech, and not be moved? After today, I think Kerry's 'screening' will be done largely as a courtesy to everyone else. Edwards just 'won it' in the hearts of Democrats nationwide, IMO...
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mac2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:27 PM
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24. Remember Edwards wouldn't be there without Kucinich...
I hope Progressive issues hit the platform in Boston.
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californiahippie Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:43 PM
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28. Edwards!
Go Edwards!
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SangamonTaylor Donating Member (537 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:45 PM
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30. I completely agree@!!!!
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BL_Zebub Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 05:59 PM
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32. Nothing against Edwards, but 2 senators on one ticket has as much chance..
..as Hell getting a National Hockey League franchise
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atre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:01 AM
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40. Why is that?
nm
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:10 AM
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43. Don't say that...
The NHL has already overexpanded to way too many warm weather areas (San Jose, Tampa Bay, Anaheim, Florida, Atlanta, Nashville, Dallas, Carolina) and neglected other places like Milwaukee way too long. They need to eliminate some of these Warmer area teams that don't get into Hockey that much and start going to areas that actually go through real winters that appreciate Hockey more.

Rp
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earthsea wizard Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:16 PM
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35. Tom Harkin /nt
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-04 06:30 PM
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38. I'd be very happy with Edwards as VP n/t
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GreenArrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:04 AM
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41. John Edwards should go back to NC
and pick up his law practice. Maybe he should pick up a few pro bouno cases while he's at it.
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nator311 Donating Member (83 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-04-04 12:12 AM
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44. my top vp selections
Virginia Gov. Mark Warner, Sen. Lincoln, Sen. Nelson of Florida
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