Why do dissenting opinions continue?

[Iverson]

In case you haven't noticed, this isn't Dissenters Underground. It's DEMOCRATIC Underground. Get a clue! ROTFLMAOWCUB.

I am sick of tasting other people's sour grapes. I thought that this forum was supposed to unite but it seems more like it is a place for sour grape distributors to grand stand.
So you dissenter people find your own damn forum!

And furthermore, the fascist octopus has sung its swan song!

[Vladimir]

1. you see

Siberia isn't all bad :)

Purge all those impure thoughts... condemn don't empathize... then wonder why the right is winning...

V

[Dhalgren]

2. Can't I dessent just a little bit?

If I keep it down and don't bother anyone? Maybe i'll whisper **I don't like Kerry much*** Ooops! I didn't say that! No, no! It was that Iverson guy, he did it! (Points finger and rallies the mob).

[Iverson]

5. Unmutual. Unmutual.

Dhalgren is unmutual.

(The Committee closes in.)

[RichM]

15. Ahem. It pains me to say it, but I've noticed Comrade Dhalgren is not

entirely, shall we say, "loyal," in his orientation. It would be unhealthy, should these deviant mutterings continue...

[AZCat]

26. Perhaps a little 're-education' is in order

We can stop by at a convenient time... say, 3:00 in the morning?
And then we can have a nice chat...

Q: Who do you support?
A: Uh...
<zap!>

AHHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAH! (sorry, got carried away)

[Minstrel Boy]

20. "It is the will of Landru."

[Kahuna]

31. Did you see the movie, "Topper?" That sounds like what

Roland Young(Topper) said to Cary Grant(George Kirby) in the movie. :7

[DuctapeFatwa]

3. Just dead-enders who aren't ready to pull the plug on America

Kind of like a poor family, the hospital has already told them the life-saving surgery is out of the question, but they keep hanging around the bed, or at the nurse's station, whining for morphine for their loved one, a request which has also been denied numerous times.

Security will have to be called.

[trumad]

4. It will stop

just give the Admin time to implement the rules...

[DNA]

7. Yikes!

If you're for Kerry and Edwards I'd find a more flattering photo. They look like they're reflected in a funhouse mirror.

[trumad]

11. And you're Brad Pitt?

:eyes:

[DNA]

17. No.

But candidates whose cheeks look like they're made of silly puddy kind of scare me.

[Iverson]

29. Please send Brad Pitt to the Committee Room.

That is all at this time.

[redqueen]

9. I love your posts!

:yourock:

[DuctapeFatwa]

22. Thanks, but I think Iverson got me this time :)

Chalk one up for him, I have seen so many posts like that I figured this was another one and fell right in LOL

[redqueen]

32. Yeah he did, but

I still LOVE YOUR POST! :D

[bunk76]

6. I think..

F.D.R put it best(paraphrasing here)"I do not belong to any organized political party,I'm a democrat".There is going to be dissent in our party but in the end when crunch time sets in,we will unite in pulling the lever for our parties best hope,Sen John Kerry,and thats a good thing.
:evilgrin:

I stand corrected,I believe it was Will Rogers,never mind.

[DNA]

8. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

You were just doing your Nazi impersonation, right?

[Iverson]

10. You're getting warm.

Now sign the papers.

[Dhalgren]

14. Seriousness is just for laughs.

The funny thing about being serious, though, is that the jokes go over really big, but no one gets them.

[Gman]

12. Actually, DU is a mini-Democratic Party

When Will what's his name said "I don't belong to any organized political party, I'm a Democrat" he captured the true spirit of the Democratic Party.

Democrats have always argued with each other. Primary battles can be 10x more vicious than the general election. I remember days when pro-marijuana legalization ultra-liberals fought labor hand and fist over whether or not to approve a stupid resolution supporting marijuana legalization at the state convention. And it was a life or death issue for both sides.

Here in Texas the old Mexican-American Democrats tried to have this white boy thrown out of their caucus because I was white, had just joined MAD that day, and I was supporting and voting for the anti-establishment candidate for Chair, Albert Bustamante (formerly of the U.S. Congress and the federal pen in El Paso). The late State Rep. Matt Garcia was the main one trying to get me thrown out.

I had a delegate from West Texas once screaming in my face and wanting to kick my ass at the state convention once because I was a floor leader for the old party Chair, Calvin Guest.

And speaking of ass-kicking, I once had 4 Teamsters that wanted to kick my ass at the Texas AFL-CIO convention because we had taken over all the microphones for Ann Richards in her fight for the labor endorsement over Jim Mattox in the governor's race. Fortunately for me, the Austin P.D. showed up just in time.

So I've just been laughing out loud since last fall about all the whining and complaining about bashing other Democratic prez candidates. This stuff has been going on for eons and it won't change. In the fall, everyone comes together to work to get the Dem elected, most of the time.

[TreasonousBastard]

54. heh...

in NYC last year one Democrat shot another one over a political slight.

Here in my town the last of the uncorrupted Democrats was arrested at a City Council meeting while he was trying to get the goods on one of the others who couldn't remember where a $50,000 check went. My guy for the Council was wiped all over the floor by a last minute cute trick. At least we kept the school board-- it was a big fight to see who would steal a couple hundred million in school construction funds.

And don't even think about trying to figure out the Borgian intrigues between the Democratic county machines around here. We have at least three Democratic parties in this county alone.

Democratic politics is a blood sport-- you wins or you loses, and you picks yourself up and gets ready for the next fight.

And yeah, whining is a sure sign of virginity.

[littlejoe]

65. I disagree. It seems as though the bulk of DUers are young,

inexperienced in the ways of the world, especially in the full contact world of politics, and extremely uncompromising and in a few cases very ill-mannered.

Having said that, I love them anyway.

[TreasonousBastard]

68. Yeah, they are the future...

and it's great they have such spirit.

But sometimes you just wish they'd just shut up and listen for once.

[Gman]

71. We had that very same spirit

and oh no! we weren't going to lose our ideals... no siree! Just like the folks 5-10 years or so ahead of me protesting the Viet Nam war. No they weren't going to lose that spirit either...no siree.

Then we all grew up. We have the same principles but they've been tempered by the real world.

The very same exact thing will happen to these kids too. I guarantee it.

--on edit--
I forgot to say that I am tickled to no end that after 20 years, there's finally a generation that gives a damn.

[PurityOfEssence]

13. Here, have a pompous lesson in human nature

You've been treated to it many times on this board, and it shouldn't be too hard to learn.

Just as an extremist candidate who calls for drastic and immediate change runs against the current of humanity, expecting instant allegiance is not the way of the world. Today and tomorrow there will be some sadness and recriminations--emotions being what they are, and knowing that many people actually care--but they will be largely be gone after that. Some will crop up to throw bombs, but the vast majority will ignore or quell them.

That's the lesson: things don't change immediately. Many of us are hearing versions of the immediate events that don't square with our view of things, and its hard not to bring them up.

For me, an ardent long-time Edwards supporter, hearing the media just flush him as a pretty faced moderate-to-conservative who only got populist because of the influence of the greatgodDean, is not something that's going to promote civility. Many are wounded and sentimental at this time.

This has happened over and over, so I'm surprised if it takes you by such storm this time: the human dynamic for something like this is a couple of days. It's already tidier than I thought it would be.

I, too, for all my snottiness in general and in this post, want things to simmer down and to build an unstoppable coalition; you'll find me working in that capacity in the near future, but for the moment, I need to get back to work and relax. Tonight's poker night; I need that. Last night I turned off the TV, played with the kids and went to be early. The California election was slobbering idiocy of the most exquisite form, so I too need to recover.

So, there's the huffy rejoinder; you too can chill a little. You're a rational and fair minded sort, so this must make a little sense.

This is the normal human dynamic; one can almost set one's watch by it.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

16. "I have no earthly idea."

We are headed for the apogee of the Dem party and here there's all these sniveling babies!

Get a tissue, Communists!

:cry::grr:

[Dhalgren]

56. I am sorry

but I will have to report you to Commrad Iverson. Well, not "have to", I mean it's more like a duty. NO! WAIT!! Not "duty" - privilege! Privilege! I meant privilege!! Honest, I love turning in thought criminals - I mean, I just LOVE it!

[Mattforclark]

18. Dissent is wonderful

When you have free discussion of ideas, the best ideas will come to the top. That's the idea, anyway.

One such good idea that has come to the top is ABB.

[Dhalgren]

57. ABB? What's this "ABB" everyone is talking about?

All Balls Bounce? After Bickering, Brood? Alabama Baked Bread?

[greatauntoftriplets]

19. I will kick and scream...

..as I am dragged off for "re-education".

[Iverson]

24. then you'd better have a screaming permit!

And it had better be signed by someone on the Committee!

:mad:

[greatauntoftriplets]

28. Such a dissenter am I....

...that I am now forging my own screaming permit.

:evilgrin:

[Iverson]

34. mmm hm

(makes notation in small spiral notebook)

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

21. Where are they? I will report them to the "dissent czar"

;-) (just kidding!)

[Iverson]

41. The dissent czar is currently occupied.

However, the Dissent Review Maven and the Dissent Pursuivant should be at your front door shortly.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

44. Great...now that's Iverson with an "O"...right?

Don't want them to scoop up the wrong Iverson and throw an innocent man in solitary.

[Dhalgren]

58. Do you know how hard it is to find a dissent czar these days?

(He grins big while raising his bushy eyebrows up and down)

[Iverson]

70. You could be destined for bigger things.

Let's see how you work out on the television show Che for Children. We may be needing a new Dissent Pursuivant soon. He hasn't come back from his last assignment.

[GreenPartyVoter]

23. *lol*

[JVS]

25. What does ROTFLMAOWCUB mean?

[Iverson]

27. Young people today use these abbreviations.

I don't fully understand them myself, having a preference for the word, but apparently it is "rolling on the floor laughing my ass off while coughing up blood."

[BootinUp]

37. it was the coughin up blood part

I couldn't figure out. Maybe thats from too many cigarettes though?

[DuctapeFatwa]

35. It's a coded message from Al Qaeda. In this particular case, Iverson is

inviting people to join his sleeper cell, pointing out that they have a really cool treehouse and are getting sunhats.

[felonious thunk]

30. Dissent is good

But instead of bashing people on our side, why can't we unite and work for common good and common goals? Let's talk about what the Republicans have done to this country. Let's work together to, behind our party's nominee to make sure that Bush is no longer able to ruin our country. We may not all agree on everything, but there's a lot we do agree on, and we need to work together, all of us, to bring about the right outcome.

[Kahuna]

33. Dissent is bad when we're trying to accomplish a very..

good goal. There comes a time when the dissention must end. Our new leader has been selected, and it's our job to support him.

[felonious thunk]

36. Ok, let's not call it dissent

let's call it advocacy. Let's call it trying to be part of the process instead of complaining that it doesn't just bend to our will. Positive dissent is good. Instead of complaining about what a bad nominee Kerry is, let's help make him a great nominee.

[rucky]

38. Why are we still in this forum?

GD is where the action is, now. This IS the dissenters forum.

[bowens43]

39. Yes! Let's all goose step into line!

We must never question. We must never think. We must do as we are told. blah blah blah......
If you don't like it here, perhaps you should leave.

[Iverson]

40. that's the right stuff!

I think you know the words to the anthem.

[maxanne]

55. wave high

the invincible red banner, Comrade. Isn't it time for a song??

[RichM]

59. Avanti Populo, a al Riscosa. Banero Rosa, Banero Rosa... tra la la...

[maxanne]

61. thank you

Comrade RichM. Nice voice. Now, back to work or you will spend your days spreading nightsoil on the turnip patch.

[Ysabel]

42. you don't own me...

don't tell me what to do...

[Iverson]

43. Unmutual. Unmutual.

Ysabel is unmutual.

(The Committee closes in.)

[Ysabel]

45. it's my party...

and i'll cry if i want to...

[Iverson]

46. but now it's Judy's turn to ...

... confess! and march in step!

[Ysabel]

48. i'm not just one...

of your many toys...

[Mick Knox]

47. Vee haf veys of maken zee support Kerry

muhahahahahahahah


hmmm now where did I put the battery, needle nose pliars, and rubber hose...

[Iverson]

50. you fool!

"hmmm now where did I put the battery, needle nose pliars, and rubber hose..."

Zis is no time for ze sex play. Ve haff serious unity bizness to enforce.

[Mick Knox]

52. LOL :) --> nt

[edzontar]

49. Resistance is Futile!!!! You will be...ASSIMILATED.

You will love big brother!!!!

Please, daddy, could I have that purge now?

Pretty please? And a few heads on poles?

[Iverson]

51. poles, czechs, danes ...

It's all the same.

[AZCat]

53. Will there be spankings?

You can't have proper coercion without spankings... :(

[Dhalgren]

60. Oh yes! Let there be spankings! Let there be spakings!

We've all been very very bad (bad Zoot, bad Zoot).

[maxanne]

69. you anticipate the spankings

with too much pleasure, Comrade. You will be dispatched to spread nightsoil on the turnip patch, for the greater good of the collective. No spankings for you!

[littlejoe]

62. Three cheers for Iverson. Couldn't agree more. But....

where were you when I needed you yesterday?

[Dhalgren]

64. Iverson was on Party business.

And it is not conducive to good thought for you to be inquiring as to his whereabouts. I am afraid that this lapse will have to be reported. Continue with your work until you are summoned.

[maxanne]

66. warning

warning - irony deficiency.

[ArkDem]

63. Yes. We all need to think exactly alike.

.

67. some people are just plain stubborn!

:evilgrin:
where am I going to find my own forum, where oh where?
Really, I just want to share.
:evilgrin:

[DFLer4edu]

72. God damn dissenters!

When will they grow up and stop dissenting? Dissenters are all terrorists, everyone knows that. They're the evil-doers who are dissently unrup- pardon me, unamerican. God damn dissenters!

P.S. I'm guessing your post was a bit of satire, otherwise, well, I wouldn't know what to think of you.

[Iverson]

73. mmm hm.

(makes another mark in small spiral notebook)