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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:40 PM
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Question: Suppose Hillary loses in the non-election
in Florida tonight. What then?
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:43 PM
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1. Well....she loses
nt
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:45 PM
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2. Hillary claims that she meant people should vote, not that the delegates count.
I think anything less than a 10% victory is a big problem for her.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:46 PM
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3. Then it will be "no big deal" according to the Hillary supporters
Say anything, do anything.
:eyes:
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:46 PM
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4. Well then she's slightly weaker going into 2/5 because momentum
will be even more towards Obama (I'm realistic - if she loses he is likely to win). She'll still have good showings in a couple of key states like NY and CA but the "could go eother way" ones will be more likely to go the other.

Nothing cataclysmic.

Same thing for Obama really. It's not the end of the world for him if HRC does win - just a bit of a momentum loss. He'll still win IL for sure and probably 2-3 others regardless.

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Seen the light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:46 PM
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5. One of the funniest nights of my life that's what! n/t
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:46 PM
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6. Then rules are rules
and the Florida delegates should not be seated. Michigan should though.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:47 PM
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8. Then Obama will have won a meaningless election
nt
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:55 PM
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16. How would you feel if Obama came out today in support of seating those delegates?
Let me tell you, he did.

The delegates will be seated and your ignorance is amazing.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:56 PM
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24. Did he?
And I wouldn't talk about ignorance if I were you. Amazing.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:47 PM
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7. It won't matter. No delegates
:rofl:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:56 PM
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25. The press for her will be unbearable.
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Nailzberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:48 PM
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9. She'll change her mind on seating Florida
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:48 PM
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10. Probably an effect on her momentum going into Feb 5th.
I still expect to see the delegates seated if for nothing else as a peace offering to those state parties from the coming general election.
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Meshuga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:49 PM
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11. Then she will decide that FL votes should not count. n/t
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:56 PM
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17. I'm sure she'd maintain that seating the delegates at the DNC would be a good thing. Like Obama...
...came out and said today.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:49 PM
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12. apparently exit poll already indicatin nearly 60% on todays vote alone
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 05:49 PM by sunonmars

but who knows?
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Big Blue Marble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:49 PM
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13. She won't loose. n/t
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:49 PM
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14. Then somebody else wins
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:54 PM
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15. A surprise that may not bode well for the future but no delegates at stake
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 05:58 PM
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18. I made this point earlier...
She's orchestrated some kind of PT-Barnum like "event" to "celebrate her
victory in Florida".

There are flyers circulating all over Florida, that tout this event.

She might win, she might not. The question is...what in the hell does she
say, as she's standing up at the podium--if she doesn't win?

It all seems a little bit cuckoo bananas to me.

I mean, what brilliant strategist thought up this disaster?

She's going to celebrate, what she's calling "a victory" in a state that didn't have
a legitimate election---if she wins. If she doesn't win, she looks like a deranged
lunatic.

Ill-planned-farce--party of 20--your table is ready!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:00 PM
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19. She will say "I plan to seat your delegates when I am the nominee."
Then people will maybe sit down and read the DNC rules and understand what that *means*, rather than sit around bullshitting.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:00 PM
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20. That's the only reason I asked
MSM will laugh her to scorn if that happens.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:01 PM
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21. Obama preempted her today, by saying he would seat FL's delegates.
He knew that her speech would be about how she planned to seat those delegates at the DNC when she became the nominee. People don't get it.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:02 PM
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22. Hurry, Hurry! Step Right UP!! The Comeback Kid Has Comeback Again!!!
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 07:02 PM
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26. Tasteless should be the Clinton Slogan
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slick8790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 06:02 PM
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23. Same thing as now.
Next to nothing. No one gets any delegates and we move on to super tuesday.
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