HandshakeGate. Was there a Snub?

[FrenchieCat]

New york Times Photo -



DIFFERENT ANGLE TO SEE WHAT OBAMA WAS DOING OVER THERE.

[babylonsister]

1. Gosh no. That's the first time I've seen these pics; he wasn't even

looking at her. Oye! :eyes:

[roguevalley]

28. I guess I'm just old but I find 'uppity' top close to a couple of other

words to be used in decent company. What the BLOODY hell decade is this?!

[babylonsister]

31. I agree, but think the OP was trying to deflate what's been said around

here all day. It's so childish, but there it is.

[roguevalley]

40. oh. thank you, babylonsister.

[allinktup]

38. And she wasn't looking at him either.

I'm sure he was just trying to avoid an awkward moment. What with Kennedy just endorsing him.

[begin_within]

2. Only 2 people know, and they aren't telling

[BOSSHOG]

3. This is NOT a partisan post, but

isn't the state of the union gala in congress an orgy of handshakes? Doesn't everyone shake everyone's hand. Hell, Kennedy and Bush probably shook hands and smiled as if they meant it.

[FrenchieCat]

6. They waved at each other according to Obama.

Let's see how long the press keeps this going.

[donheld]

19. Obama and Hillary have only seen each other several times

over the course of all the debates and other occasions. They've no doubt shaken hands on all those occasions. If there was any snubbing going on don't these fools think it would have come out before now. We have a series of 4 pictures. We don't know what transpired before these pictures were taken. They could have shaken hands earlier for all anyone knows. This is just crazy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. No. Can we please go on to the important things now?

[AtomicKitten]

5. Oh, FrenchieCat, you are such a meanie posting pictures that dispute the lame snub claim.

:spank:

And I say, you go girl! ;)

[FrenchieCat]

16. I'm so bad....I know!

I've been told that by quite a few Hillary supporters lately.

I'm just, well, so over the top! :sarcasm:

[samdogmom]

7. Wow--where did you get this series of photos? They certainly tell a different story from what's

been posted all day! No snub at all!!!

In fact, not even in the realm of possibility!

(Unbiased Edwards supporter here, by the way!)

[FrenchieCat]

10. Another poster posted them.....The New York Times has them ....

I know that will disappoint some. :(

[johnnydrama]

8. hmmm

4 pictures tell a thousand words. Now, looking at the 4 pics in order, I don't even think he saw her

[peacetalksforall]

11. He had to see her - but she was only looking at Kennedy - for a good

reason they have to remain friends. Obama didn't owe her a handshake and it appears someone might have called his name. The key is - she is only looking at Kennedy. Naturally, she would have turned to extend her hand to Obama, but he had already moved. I don't see a snub.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

44. I believe that

I am certain Obama was just looking around (and not at Hillary) and then asked by the other politician. I've done the snubbing of my friends when I'm totally determined to not run into things as I'm walking along (and not knowing they'd be there). Seriously as a deaf person.. it's a real multitask thing when you talk to people and look where you're walking as you're going along.

Of course Obama's not deaf but the same principle applies here.

[zulchzulu]

9. Why the hell was she shaking people's hands when they were trying to watch?

She's always on...

[samdogmom]

13. Ha! Are you trying to start a new controversy?

There was no snub. It's obvious from the set of NY Times photos. Both candidates were gracious. Let's just let it rest!

(I am wondering if "The View" will issue an apology? Any chance for a correction on this lame program?)

[FrenchieCat]

14. You know how the politics of personal destruction work..........

It's out there now. :shrug:

[samdogmom]

17. Let's just hope the record get corrected!

For one thing--this thread needs a few more recs. to make it to the greatest page. Anyone?

If more people see the truth.....!

[FrenchieCat]

25. Yes.... folks should rec, like they did the outraged posts!

[southern_dem]

12. good post

Hopefully we can put this stupid "controversy" to rest.

[rox63]

15. They weren't even close enough for a snub

Obama looks like he's talking to someone on the other side. Kennedy and Clinton had to stretch way the hell over to even be able to shake hands. Yeesh! :eyes:

[onehandle]

18. This again? Why is this non-event still being posted.

It was a big joke last night.

Today, people are making a real deal out of it.


I am embarrassed for us all.

[Bluebear]

20. Seems he is making an effort not to look at her. You couldn't miss her outfit.

I hadn't seen this photo sequence, it indeed does look as though he snubbed her.

[FrenchieCat]

21. Especially if you look with your eyes closed!

[tridim]

22. I think we can assume that 23 people (as of this moment)..

have images turned off in their browser.

Tools>Internet Options -or- just open your eyes and look.

[MonkeyFunk]

23. No way at all to know

but he made a mistake, obviously, because it caused such an uproar.

If he had extended his hand, the outcome could only have been positive for him.

[FrenchieCat]

24. The only mistake that he made was daring to run against Hillary Clinton......

because he didn't understand the type of supporters the Hillary campaign has attracted.

[MonkeyFunk]

26. No

had he extended his hand, she either would've shaken it and that would be the big picture in the news, and would've dovetailed beautifully with his unity theme. Him, Kennedy and Clinton, all smiling and shaking hands.

OR... she would've snubbed him and her campaign would be sunk and he'd be the nominee.

Instead, he turned away and it's all over the news. Whether it deserves to be or not, it is. And he's playing defense.

So of the two choices, which one was better?

[Blue_In_AK]

27. Hillary IS looking good in the red suit

and definitely stands out in a crowd.

[allinktup]

39. perfect color too; reflects her campaign tactics.

[Blue_In_AK]

45. As an Edwards supporter, I can laugh at that.

:rofl:

[smoogatz]

29. Thank God we're perpetuating this non-event.

Apparently there's just nothing better to talk about.

[Quixote1818]

30. Photo two clearly shows Teddy reaching for her hand and Obama is

already turning. Total vindication for Obama! Though I wish he had snubbed her after all the below the belt blows.

[Quixote1818]

32. So now we know that Obama didn't snub Hillary but two articles came up

clearly saying she snubbed Obama twice. This one came back to bite those pushing this in the butt! :rofl:

[Catherine Vincent]

33. It was a snub and he acted uppity.

:)

[BigDDem]

34. BO voted "present"

[peacetalksforall]

35. If you look at the image again - notice something that says where we

should be. I see red, white, and blue. Corny, but it's there.

P/S/ Whoever is advising Hillary Clinton on clothes is doing a good job.

[HooptieWagon]

36. I don't know about a snub, but when dimson said his surge was great

I thought Hillary was going to run up and fellate him...

[Renew Deal]

37. This is like the Belicheck-Mangini hugs

It's hysterically funny, great for TV, and totally meaningless. I would expect Hillary to knock over a reporter to get to Barack next time.

[Raine]

41. Looks like Obama was talking

to someone else when she came up, I see no snub. This whole thing is ridiculous, much ado about nothing except distraction from real issues.

[FrenchieCat]

42. Bingo!

[sam sarrha]

43. totally obvious she was shaking Ted's hand. this is Media KoolAid, i am ashamed that DU'ers fell fo...

i even believed it till i saw that original photo was cropped, removing the obvious eye contact with Ted

never forget they are stealing this election in the Primaries

[allinktup]

47. Absolutely

I can't believe people here are falling for this and in fact with all the pictures this seems staged. Absolutely staged to give everyone something to talk about. They want to tarnish Obama. First the media picking up on the race thing and running with it and then the gender thing and then blacks against hispanics and blacks against whites and women against men and so on. This media is out of control. They are crude and are looking for just about anything to get off on and they drag us into the process.

[allinktup]

46. There was no snub... STOP this Pettiness. Worst than the media

You guys who love the establishment candidate are making a lot of hay because of the big endorsement Obama got that day. You feel betrayed for someone deciding for himself that he wanted to endorse change and not the politics of the past. And I think some of you are still hanging onto the race thing as well, still trying to divide like so many Dems and Republicans. Some of you don't want to accept change. Does the mean that some of you hardcore Dems are actually very conservative? If you like continuous war mongering, bickering, petty politics then go and join the other side because people who embrace change are progressive. Progress. That involves change. It's hard to determine if some of you are really making hay out of nothing just to even the playing field in terms of change. He represents change and you guys want to bring him down to say that he's just like her. He's not. He didn't inject race or gender into this campaign. He has a message of hope and inspiration and that's better than railing on about the negatives of an administration that is closing a chapter in our history. Stop trying to find controversy where there is none. The pictures should be proof positive that as far away as she is how could he be snubbing her? And at best it can't be determined what his intent was either. A camera that high in the wings, watching what everyone is doing sounds almost Bush-like as well. Remember our civil liberties, people and stop this pettiness, please!

[wildflowergardener]

48. not a snub

He was obviously talking to Claire McCaskill as he said earlier today. I guess a photo taken out of context can certainly be misinterpreted. In those other photos it was very hard to tell they were seateded in rows.

Meg

[Adelante]

49. Another angle, Frenchie