Obama's backturning snub exposed to millions of women as

[BenDavid]

it was topic one ON THE VIEW....many boos from the audience when the picture (same as on the DU.) was shown....

[IndianaJones]

1. I love it. nt.

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[KennedyGuy]

2. troubling and unsettling..

his disdain for women is clear...

[RiverStone]

23. bullshit!

Geez.

One missed (or distracted from) handshake and now you assume Obama has "disdain" for women?

Quite a leap there...and a ridiculous one at that.

Tell me you forgot to include :sarcasm:???

[lse7581011]

47. You're Not Serious?

are you?

[smalll]

That's big. The View. Boos.

Tsunami Tuesday will be an ambush at Gender Gap. The vultures will be picking over Barack's carcass in a week.

[jlake]

3. But I thought this was a non-story. That "no one outside of DU will even know about it"

That it was just made up by Hillbots and Hill Shills to defame Obama.

[rodeodance]

21. Rovian tactic from obama supporters--deminish the issue/try to bury the story. And

I admit I assume that it primarily came from obama supporters.

[oasis]

73. Obamaists wouldn't know a "Rovian tactic" from grape jelly. They were "hoping" it would go away.

Obamaists are all about the "politics of hope".

[Skip Intro]

4. wow, it has legs now

no tv here at work...

[L0oniX]

5. The View watchers would be all voting for Shillary anyway.

What a worthless POS show and waste of a network.

[joeybee12]

7. Hey, nice sexist comment...

..oh, that's right, shrill isn't sexist since Obama supporters say it isn't.

Besides, you and I don't get to decide who votes and how they vote...someone who votes differntly as I do has just as much right to his or her decision.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. you mean you support flat-earthers?

Oh.My.God.

[joeybee12]

11. No, but i support their right to vote...don't try and twist my words...

...the constitution gives them that right to be morons and vote accordingly.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

17. then, don't try to twist a non-event into something huge

not even a molehill, much less a mountain.

pathetic. truly pathetic.

[rodeodance]

24. well, seems to me, the so-called non-event IS the BIG EVENT--

[dave123williams]

49. Ok, calling Hillary 'shrill' is not an insult to all women.

Now, quit with your hysteria and have more babies.

[Jed Dilligan]

53. Mitt Romney is shrill, too.

[Hoof Hearted]

78. Better for people to assume you are an ignorant, sexist, shit-wit

but you went ahead and opened your hole and removed all doubt. Good for you, and thank you for representing Obama in this thread. :thumbsup:

[Jed Dilligan]

51. Reading comprehension problems?

The poster wrote "Shillary." There is nothing sexist about calling someone a shill.

[dave123williams]

69. Hmn. Maybe I was just projecting 'shrill' on to 'shill'. She's kind of both.

[Hepburn]

28. A-fucking-men!

It's a shrill hen party and I have never watched it after turning it on once. Talk about a show that makes us females out to be morons, but is disguised as some form of intellectual discussion!

[L0oniX]

42. My wife won't watch it either and not because I try to stop her from doing so.

[Hoof Hearted]

79. and not because I try to stop her from doing so.

You really are a patriarchal bastard, aren't you.

[adabfree]

65. Agreed

The View sucks!!!

I wouldn't be caught watching it, anymore than I would Jerry Springer..

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Ha

I'm on the record as not giving a rip if someone shakes my hand or not...You can make yourself feel small...Others can not make you feel small...

That being said I want to thank Senator Obama for his gift to the Clinton campaign...

[UALRBSofL]

14. You are very wise

I don't know who you are but you seem to stay above the frey on DU but when you make a point it's very thought out and to the point. You don't mud sling like many Hillary, Edwards, and Obama supporters. Very refreshing. Am excited to vote today for the possible next Commander and Chief, Hillary Rodham Clinton. :)

[Bluerthanblue]

9. You watch the View???

:shrug:

[fenriswolf]

10. Are you fucking serious people?

We are going to let a handshake decide who are president is. I mean it is clearly obvious because of who the top 3 people are that you don't care about relevant issues in this country. Just happy to continue to say same as it ever was. Fuck this is on the same level as Britney frickin spears. Wake the fuck up people grow some balls, vote your conscious and lets have a real presidential race.

[smalll]

16. "Contineau" ????

Is that some kind of after-dinner liqueur, maybe?

[OneGrassRoot]

22. I couldn't agree more, however...

I think the reason some people here post these observations is because the vast majority of voters are getting their "news" (cough, cough) from MSM in the form of cable news, network news and, yes, shows like The View. They don't investigate issues; they go on emotional reactions to what they're seeing and hearing. It takes too much effort to investigate given the plethora of shit floating around out there, and if you don't go online to do it, well, you're pretty much screwn (lol...that was my first chance to type that..lol).

It's not right, it's pitiful, it's HORRIFYING, but it's the way it is. Whatever is being shoved down people's throats is allowed nowadays; very few have a voice to counter it.

Why so many here get into the squabbles is another matter. This should be a place to discuss issues.

That said, discussing how the electorate gets their information and thus may react to it, it worth noting, IMHO.


:)

[ChairmanAgnostic]

29. If he hugged her and kissed her, hillarians would have attacked him

for sexually attacking her.

[comradebillyboy]

46. not at all, it would have been a politically smart thing to do

for Obama to give his main opponent a little hug and kiss on the cheek. Instead he gratuitously pissed off a lot of women, and a fair number of men with his petulant petty snub. Makes me wonder if he is really ready for prime time.

[Beacool]

63. Nope, unless he tongued her!!!

:hi:

[bellasgrams]

37. His reaction to her just affirms the uncomfortable feelings I have

been feeling about him the last couple of weeks. His nastiness, of placing blame on the Clintons for things he said, etc. remember at one time I was completely neutral on these two. My pick was Richardson, but I liked all of them. Then they started eliminating themselves by there actions. Hillary is staying on target except when she has to defend herself.

[fenriswolf]

45. you are gonna let a handshake

tell you everything you need to know about a person's charecter? GTFO of here. Take a look at their actions then and not at this stupid crap. Maybe he was having a bad day, maybe he didn't see her, maybe she called him a bastard right before, who knows but what I do know is if you are gonna pick your vote based on that no wonder our country is in the crapper.

[emilyg]

59. Yep.

[Bake]

38. Grow some balls? Nice sexist post, Qaddafi.

Those of us who were born with 'em, have 'em. Those not born with 'em, don't need 'em anyway.

And I hope voters are, in fact, conscious when they vote.

Bake

[ShortnFiery]

12. Bullshit! Again you have sunk LOW when you think that you can interpret non-verbal cues

as GOD GIVEN FACT. :crazy:

This is smarmy campaigning at it's MOST VILE. :puke:

[rodeodance]

25. ha ha--Nothing to interpret--we see his back turned.

[JackORoses]

64. did you see him facing Claire McCaskill? what, did you want him to turn his back on her?

And let's get this straight,
Hillary made no effort to shake anybody's hand, Kennedy reached out to her.

[RiverStone]

13. great - now it's man vs woman...

Add that to black vs white
old vs young
south vs north
good hair vs bad hair

Anything else?

[TriMetFan]

19. "great - now it's man vs woman."

That is what Obama made it into with his looks and comments against Hillary. He screwed up.

[KennedyGuy]

15. It is disrurbing..

his attitude toward woman is obviously hostile...
Unseemly...

[thereismore]

18. I'd like to see the hand shake in slo mo, 50x a day, and a jury, and a firing squad. nt

[thereismore]

20. Oooh, there were boos at "the view", OMG! nt

[ShortnFiery]

26. Church Lady's audience chimes in:

:crazy:

Yes, let's all be offended by non-verbal cues that we have no TRUE capacity to accurately interpret. Now that's political campaigning ... that's *SPECIAL.* :eyes:

[JVS]

58. Church Chat rules!

[ShortnFiery]

33. The Clintons think that American women are so damn stupid to believe that:

As goes "The View" then so goes The Nation. :crazy: :thumbsdown:

[Hoof Hearted]

80. Based on what? There's pulling statements out of your ass, and then there's this whole other level,

and that's where you went. Let's examine your statement. It won't take long.

The Clintons think that American women are so damn stupid to believe that as goes "The View" then so goes the nation.

I'm going to do you the favor of leaving discussion about your sentence structure, punctuation and grammar aside.

Now:

What statement did the Clinton's jointly release that supports your statement?
Do you believe the Clinton's suddenly dropped campaigning to assume control and production of "The View"?

Sometimes, just once in a while, you might try thinking before you type.

[Virginia Dare]

30. Perhaps Zapruder has a film of it...n/t

[rodeodance]

54. and therein lies the PROBLEM---the NON-SHAKE.

[Bitwit1234]

27. Shows what a petty little man it was.

IF A MAN CAN'T SUPPORT A STRONG WOMAN HE SURE AS HECK ISN'T MUCH OF A MAN.

[ShortnFiery]

31. Gee, now you're quoting KKKarl Rove? ("little man") ... how classy.

You know Karl Rove the man dubbed "Bushes Brain" who was a prodigy of Lee Atwaters when they and your heroine's Hero (Barry Goldwater) were perfecting that *Southern Strategy? :grr: :puke: :nuke:

[Nedsdag]

32. What did you expect?

The shrews on "The View" are pro-Hillary in spite of Elisabeth Hasselbeck.

[ShortnFiery]

35. Cut the sexist language. There's nothing wrong with a "daytime show" demonstrating a preference.

Since I'm of the feminine gender, I can find comfort in the FACT that today's "American Woman" is far from the lemming that The Clinton operatives perceive her to be. :thumbsup:

Just like in SC, The Clintons' operatives overplaying HRC as *all women* may just blow-up in their faces.

IMO, it's well past time for "the old guard" to realize those old "divide and conquer" strategies are dangerous to apply within a modern and complex society ... welcome to BLOW-BACK. ;)

[Kermit77]

44. Joy Behar is a member of Clinton's campaign staff

Or she should be as much as she "shills" for Hillary on that show. Whoopi is a closet Hill Bot and I think Sherri is undecided or leaning slightly Obama.

Elisabeth is anyones guess.

[Hoof Hearted]

81. It's nice how you lie about campaign staff in bold print

and then cover your ass in the small print - almost clever even.

[Sultana]

34. The View?

ROFL, there are people who watch that crappy show.

[Hepburn]

36. Apparently so....

...:puke: It is totally crappy IMO.

[ShortnFiery]

39. Hey, my sister-in-law loves it and I love my sister-in-law: to each her own?

:shrug:

[Hepburn]

40. Entertainment is entertainment and I admit to at times...

....watching the Three Stooges. But....I never use them for any valid source of facts and that is how I also look at the View.

JMHO

[Seabiscuit]

41. My wife doesn't watch The View but she saw the Obama picture and said,

"What an arrogant shit, I'm glad I'm not voting for that poser". I have to agree.

[RiverStone]

55. This is insane...

One moment in time.

Ultimately, no one knows if it was anything more than a distracted few seconds - there may have been nothing nefarious about it at all.

But based on a couple of seconds Obama is now an "arrogant shit"???

That's all it took?

My only read on this is if someone were to come to such a dire conclusion over something so minor, I assume he/she had no plans to vote for Obama in the first place.

Would you want someone to assume your an arrogant shit for something like this? Your in a crowded room, you miss/forget/look away/cough/whatever and all of the sudden your an arrogant shit?!

What's wrong with that picture?

[Seabiscuit]

61. In denial.

Cognitive dissonance.

[RiverStone]

66. spun by the corporate media

The only cognitive dissonance is that spun by the M$M and those that chose to believe it.

Petty bs -thats all. And if you chose to see it as more, be careful what you wish for --- I doubt the entire election would benefit from us crawling in the mud trying to find the next ridiculous thing to focus on.

Remember JE's hair?

I thought that was much ado about not a damn thing - and you think this is more important???

[Seabiscuit]

67. These days the media is spinning its ass of acting as Obama's cheerleaders.

[Justice Is Comin]

43. He thinks his shit doesn't stink after a

belgrande beef and bean burrito.

It only takes these appearances in public to make me more and more confident people will send him packing!

[Skidmore]

48. What can you say?

All that fighting for equal rights to employment and education, the vote, and reproductive rights, and it comes down to being expected to get our knickers in a knot over this crap.

[writes3000]

50. Good Grief! How Desperate and Dishonest are you folks?

Talk about intentional manipulation and muckracking! Have any of you Obama bashers actually taken a moment to truly analyze the moment? Let's look at the two scenarios.

1) Ted Kennedy smiles and greets Clinton with Obama by his side. Clinton moves her way down the aisle to greet him, having to squeeze by people to say hello. Obama (quite rightfully) assumes that these two have some catching up to do so he steps aside, giving Kennedy and Clinton the respectful distance to speak without an immediate audience.

2) Ted Kennedy smiles and greets Clinton with Obama by his side. Obama is immediately furious with Kennedy (HOW DARE HE???) even though Kennedy just gave Obama the endorsement of a lifetime. Clinton approaches (HOW DARE SHE???) Obama uses his psychic powers to KNOW that even though Clinton is coming to greet Kennedy, she really, really, really wants a handshake from Obama. Clinton doesn't want time alone with Kennedy. No, she really needs to be acknowledged by Obama. So Obama does the nastiest thing of all time.....he turns away from Clinton!!!! Just as she's smiling and approaching Kennedy!!!! How dastardly!!! How rude, rude, rude!!! Why would Obama ever allow Kennedy and Clinton a moment together without STANDING IN THE WAY and making Clinton greet him first?

I wasn't there. But given specifics of the moment, factoring in that Obama's new mentor, Ted Kennedy, was right beside him, I highly, highly, highly doubt that Obama was searching for the rudest diss of Hillary he could come up with. I honestly think it would have been more rude to insert himself into Kennedy and Clinton's reconnection.

The attempts to smear Obama over this are nothing but DESPERATE. And sad, quite frankly.

DU used to be above this crap.

[JVS]

52. Let's see what Oprah does.

[Perry Logan]

56. TED KENNEDY WITHDRAWS ENDORSEMENT. "Obama is a complete asshole ," he says.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

57. This woman doesn't give a shit about it...

and I say this as someone who is not a Obama supporter.

[Catherine Vincent]

60. I don't understand why the networks will not show the actual video of the snub.

The SOTU address was on all the major networks and cable. It could be that the video is even more damning so they rather stick with the pictures.

[Beacool]

62. Thank you senator Obama!!!

"Handshakegate" the gift that keeps on giving.........


:rofl:

[CyberPieHole]

68. Obama is a misogynist. He doesn't even want to shake hands with a woman candidate...

I hope that women in America see what Obama is really like. He has no sense of propriety.

:kick: and recommend

[angie_love]

70. pathetic.

you've got to be kidding w/ that comment. Obama a mysogynist b/c he didn't shake Hillarys hand? He went to talk to Claire Macaskill, shes a woman too you know? You're pathetic

[Avalux]

71. Disgusting comment. Absolutely disgusting.

This woman doesn't see any such thing - fucking bullshit. :eyes:

[ecstatic]

72. This shouldn't be a man vs. woman issue

I'm feminist and I don't think this issue has anything to do with sexism.

[Vinca]

74. What a bunch of dim bulbs in this world.

There's a photo somewhere on DU of the entire scene with Obama speaking to Claire McCaskill. I guess if he'd taken Hillary's hand someone would accuse him of dissing Claire to suck up to Hillary. Any chance we might steer the conversation back to things like war or maybe Haitian kids eating dirt cookies or 18,000 uninsured a year dying?

[Beacool]

75. Yep, also made it to Inside Edition

Saw clips of The View in Youtube and the audience booed when Whoopi mentioned the incident. Also saw a clip from Inside Edition and a political analyst was saying that it was bad for Obama to be perceived as not being willing to shake a fellow senator's hand.

Christmas in January, the gift that keeps on giving.........

:rofl:

[Hoof Hearted]

76. Well, he should have thought about that before he acted so petulantly

in the midst of such a VERY public event where he should have known that every other photographer would have their sights set on him.

[Vinca]

77. Here's the link to the OTHER photo - see response #2

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4267482