Clinton Gives the Surge a Standing Ovation, while Obama remains in his Seat.

[MadBadger]

Clinton and Obama’s divergent views on the troop surge in Iraq, however, were plainly visible.

When Bush proclaimed, “Ladies and gentlemen, some may deny the surge is working, but among terrorists there is no doubt,” Clinton sprang to her feet in applause but Obama remained firmly seated. The president’s line divided most of the Democratic audience, with nearly half standing to applaud and the other half sitting in stony silence.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/clinton-obama-steal-bushs-final-show-2008-01-29.html

[maddiejoan]

1. actually

Their statements on the Surge --and how it's a failure--are nearly identical.

[AX10]

11. This is a non-story.

[chascarrillo]

20. And to you, two people not shaking hands is a story. Pathetic.

Absolutely pathetic.

[AX10]

28. Do you Obamites have to cry over everything that...

doesn't go your way?

[chascarrillo]

29. Pathetic.

[AX10]

48. We'll see what you say when Hillary gets the nod.

[CTLawGuy]

42. its as much of a story as a

fucking non-handshake...

[JAbuchan08]

43. but whether HIllary and Obama shake hands is the decisive issue of the election.

[LiberalHeart]

2. So was she applauding the surge as a strategy or the soldiers who are surging?

[Joe the Revelator]

5. The quote would lead me to believe she was applauding the strategy

When Bush proclaimed, “Ladies and gentlemen, some may deny the surge is working, but among terrorists there is no doubt,” Clinton sprang to her feet in applause but Obama remained firmly seated. The president’s line divided most of the Democratic audience, with nearly half standing to applaud and the other half sitting in stony silence.

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[tammywammy]

21. WTF?

:wtf: Seriously, are you 12?

[MadBadger]

22. Yea, sounds like it.

[maddiejoan]

17. Maybe she had nodded off

and sprang to her feet when people around her did.

I nodded off here at home about 5 times during the speech.

[ErnestoG]

23. Which makes her a bad choice for president

Are you saying that she will be like Ronald Reagan, who dozed off and when Lee Atwater wandered into his office, spying a thumbtack on the floor and saying "oh, look a tack..." suddenly jerked awake and fumbled for the nuclear button gasping "attack? ATACK???"

Oh that just fills me with confidence.

[maddiejoan]

26. Does everyone that supports Obama

lack a sense of humour?

or just you?

[cali]

30. heh, I can see that

my parents used to drag us to symphony and the opera when I was a kid and I hate to admit that I became a pro at waking up at the right moments to clap or stand.

[maddiejoan]

50. I know I've done it.

[still_one]

31. Forget about politics for 1 minute, The invasion of Iraq has killed over 100000 people

What about the Mothers and Fathers, and children whose lives are destroyed by this senseless war

In 5 years when we are still there, please look back and remember. We forgot the lessons of Viet Nam, a war also based on lies

No more people killed because of LIES

It is an insult to over 1 million people killed in the Viet Nam war, and those killed and wounded in this war, that we are still beating the war drums, and all we can do is play politics

[jasmine621]

36. She was applauding the solidiers. And they will remember Obama did not.

He takes his lead from Ted now.

[allinktup]

51. stop it. you know that's not what happened.

[Warren Stupidity]

54. Oh that is always a fine dodge.

No matter that we've sent our soldiers off on a criminal enterprise, we must at every opportunity jump to our feet and cheer them, no matter how wrong the 'mission', no matter how long that wrong mission continues. Always the sport the troops dodge. It is crap. Mindless militarism supports murderous leaders.

[usregimechange]

That says it all

[Stephanie]

6. It does indeed.

[Zueda]

3. So hil's a georgie cheerleader now...sheesh!

[CoffeeCat]

4. Why would Hillary have stood for that...

...comment?

That's bizarre.

[tammywammy]

8. Agreed, bizarre

[berni_mccoy]

12. Pandering

[MadBadger]

27. Its what she does best.

[Zueda]

18. um...if you played a decisive role in letting George go into Iraq...

wouldn't you want to hear "good news" like that?

[milkyway]

25. bush said the magic word: "terrorists." Gotta look tough.

[ursi]

33. kick again!

[jasmine621]

37. To applaud the troops. Why else. nt

[ErnestoG]

7. Badabing

So much for Hillary the anti-war candidate

[angie_love]

9. ..

thats odd

[MadBadger]

10. This was what I was waiting to hear. I remembered this and wanted to know if either of them stood

[eridani]

14. The entire female population of Iraq is under de facto house arrest

Cheering for that is disgusting.

[ursi]

15. I saw that and it concerned me and reminded me that she supported attacking Iran a few months ago.

[Yuugal]

16. She is so obvious sometimes.

This is her war too, she had to applaud.

[ErnestoG]

19. Kickeroo....this is much more important than a handshake.

[Lucinda]

24. Sorry...gonna need to see more of juniors statement before I get all a twitter

about her applause.

[ursi]

32. kick

[KittyWampus]

34. she voted for it from the outset.

[Adelante]

35. No wonder there's a no-handshake story clogging the board

I was wondering. Now I don't have to. Thanks.

[Freddie Stubbs]

38. Applauding the surge, or appaluding the troops?

:shrug:

[THUNDER HANDS]

39. heh

little miss warmonger.

[KittyWampus]

45. HOW did this thread ever sink?

[bread_and_roses]

40. any Democrat who stand to applaud miserable psycho war-criminal and his illegal slaughter supports

that his criminal, murderous slaughter for power and oil. But then, they won't impeach the illegitimate, election-stealing little fraud for his crimes against the Constitution, won't stop funding his slaughter in Iraq, won't stand against his transfer of wealth from workers to owners,won't stand against his far-right wing SCOTUS nominees, won't oppose his torture-condoning appointees, won't stand up to the corporate powers who fund their campaigns, and ignore the only candidate running with clean money. At this point I am not far from not giving a damn who wins the election, since it is plainer than ever that the only winner will be the militrary-industrial-prison complex Party - the Corporatocrats.

[Hawkowl]

46. Exactly.

I agree 100%

[ursi]

41. kick and rank to rise above the immaturity here

[MadBadger]

44. Kick in Support of the troops.

[jillan]

47. In fairness, he was up and out of his seat cheering for invading Iran -

When Bush warned the Iranian government that “America will confront those who threaten our troops, we will stand by our allies, and we will defend our vital interests in the Persian Gulf” Obama jumped up to applaud. Clinton leaned across Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.), seated to her left, to look in Obama’s direction before slowly standing.

yes - she calculated her move, but Obama cheered for this.

[Beaverhausen]

52. oh my- what will Obama's supporters think about that?

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. She and Obama have identical voting records about the surge and all other matters related to Iraq.

...during the years during which both have served in the Senate. There is an actual public record of both opposing the surge. Last night was political theater. She chose to be viewed as being happy that Al Quada appears to be weaker inside Iraq now compared to a year ago. Obama chose to visually accent his differences with Bush. They are somewhat different visual political statements, but their actual words and votes have not been at odds on this.

[AtomicKitten]

53. It seems only natural that she would cheer the war she voted for.