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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:07 PM
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Obama: "Sometimes you have to trim your sails"- Dismissively labeled Wellstone as merely a “gadfly”
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Obama’s deference to these boundaries was hammered home to me when our discussion touched on the late Senator Paul Wellstone. Obama said the progressive champion was “magnificent.” He also gently but dismissively labeled Wellstone as merely a “gadfly,” in a tone laced with contempt for the senator who, for instance, almost single-handedly prevented passage of the bankruptcy bill for years over the objections of both parties. This clarified Obama’s support for the Hamilton Project, an organization formed by Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and other Wall Street Democrats to fight back against growing populist outrage within the party. And I understood why Beltway publications and think tanks have heaped praise on Obama and want him to run for President. It’s because he has shown a rare ability to mix charisma and deference to the establishment.

Barack Obama makes a convincing case that he is not overly motivated by political machinations. Many have accused him of Hillary Clinton-style positioning for a potential presidential run. But that kind of calculation does not appear to be in play, at least not right now–and Obama chafes when anyone implies the opposite. “You should always assume that when I cast a vote or make a statement it is because it is what I believe in,” he said. “The thing that bothers me is the assumption that if I make a judgment that’s different from yours, then it must mean I am less progressive or my goals are different, meaning I must be not really committed to helping people but rather I am trying to triangulate or drift toward the DLC .”

Still, there’s no question that his passions are confined by intense caution. Joan Claybrook, president of the consumer watchdog group Public Citizen, tells the story of how, after Obama voted for the class-action bill, he attended a meeting of public-interest groups. “We were worried about what his vote indicated about him for the future,” she said. “And he told us, ‘Sometimes you have to trim your sails.’ And I asked myself, Trim your sails for what? You just got elected by a wide margin–what are you trimming your sails for?”

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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:14 PM
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1. As important as table manners?
doesn't seem like it at present...
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:15 PM
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2. wow. just wow.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:21 PM
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3. How machiavellian of Obama.
Obama is smart of course, but this shows a lack of character and principles.

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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:22 PM
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4. that much is obvious.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:23 PM
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5. Do you know what "gadfly" means?
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chascarrillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:24 PM
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6. The Nation - 6/7/06
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:25 PM
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7. Tip of the iceberg
Top contributor Goldman Sachs. Can we talk bundlers here?

SHHH. Keep the faith. Avoid the truth.
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Djinn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:06 AM
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8. the fact that whether Obama
did or did not shake someone's hand or did or did not say something critical of Wellstone or praising Reagan gets FAR FAR more attention than his involvement with the odious Hamilton Project is proof that the level of political debate in the US is woeful.

I can not beleive that you're all pissing and moaning and splitting imperial hairs over what Clinton/Edwards/Obama et al did or didn't say, did or didn't imply etc.

Take a look at their ACTUAL records. A brief look at Clinton's record on Israel and Obama's on the supremacy of business (his "tort reform" guff and the Hamilton association) clearly demonstrates NEITHER are progressives.

Oh and for the always neccesary disclaimer - I'm not an Edwards/Kucinich or anyone else supporter
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Orwellian_Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:40 PM
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9. Kick n/t
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