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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:02 PM
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#### OFFICIAL KATHLEEN SEBELIUS DEMOCRATIC RESPONSE THREAD ####
Should be following the SOTU immediately.

This is her, in case you haven't seen her before. Governor of Kansas. She's considered one of the people on a short list to be Vice President.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:03 PM
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1. MOST BORING SOTU EVER
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:24 PM
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Sorry, most boring response ever. I am disappointed.
those here are touting her Presidential material need to take another look.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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54. You liked juniors SOTU?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:30 PM
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50. I couldn't watch junior. You have a much stronger stomach. Looking forward to
the Governors response though!
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:04 PM
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2. Which station?
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:04 PM
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4. should be all of them
all stations generally carry the response. it ususally lasts about 10 minutes, I think.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:24 PM
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Thanks---listening now
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:05 PM
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7. Yep, as Magic Rat said, should be all stations that carried the SOTU.
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edbermac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:04 PM
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3. Is FAUX news showing the Dem response?
Methinks they won't.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 PM
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17. Yup, they are showing it, I just checked nt
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:04 PM
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5. Don't Drop the Soap!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:05 PM
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6. I hope she runs for President someday
I had my hopes on her for 08, but oh well.
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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40. Sleep well? How can we??????
:eyes:
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:06 PM
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8. Love your Mother - Earth! : - )
:hi:
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GeoK Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:09 PM
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9. Woo Hoo!
Give 'em hell Kathleen!
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:11 PM
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10. starting any second now
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:16 PM
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11. here she is....
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:17 PM
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12. Impressive!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 PM
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13. Taking a detour from tradition: offering an American response, a national call to action.
Interesting...
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 PM
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14. I disagree with her - the polarization IS that great, the crimes Huge.
Not time to play nice...too much at stake!
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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27. Good luck with that continued stagnation...
Truly, we need to get these guys to work together...I recommend term limits, but that's a different issue altogether...
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:27 PM
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42. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN!!! Payback time. I am pissed.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:33 PM
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57. She's supposedly endorsing Obama soon. If she's sounding conciliatory, that may be
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:34 PM by wlucinda
connected.
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 PM
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15. Delivery is a little wooden
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:19 PM
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19. agreed.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:21 PM
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22. Yep. Nothing like Webb's impassioned response. n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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25. *zzzzzz*
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 PM
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35. I agree too. Not a good public speaker.
Not crazy about her message, either.

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loveangelc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:18 PM
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16. lol she was talking about pundits discussing who stood and who didn't.
which is exactly what they were talking about.lol
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:19 PM
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18. Sounds like Obama talking points so far...
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:19 PM by sfam
Lots of non-political common sense stuff. I like it.
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:20 PM
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20. Wrong approach! Bush is toast. He is done. Fuggedabout him.
Did she pay attention? He wants NOTHING to do with working with the Dems. Time to wait until one of ours gets in. This is a wasted opportunity to go ballistic on that failure of a speech!
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:20 PM
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21. I'm ready to drop hillary now....
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:27 PM
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43. A Fine Candidate Governor Sebelius Would Make
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:21 PM
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23. Needs three more recs to keep it kicked...come on, peeps!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:24 PM
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29. K&R
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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24. YAWN
Come on Kathleen, this is terrible. How about some pep in your step?
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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A Little of the Subliminal Learning Tape Cadence, but I Like Her Message
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM
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26. She'd make a good flight attendant
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:23 PM by bob_weaver
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:24 PM
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28. she's finally getting to some real meat-
our relationships around the world,
how we have spent our money killing- (my paraphrase)
while our home and people fall apart.

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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:24 PM
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30. Nice message, but wooden and stiff delivery. Should have picked a Kennedy... any Kennedy. n/t
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 PM
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31. YAWN
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 PM
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32. she's about as exciting as I'd expect someone from Kansas to be
although, to be fair, it's hard to sound like you're fired up when you're alone in a room talking to a camera.
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:30 AM
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68. What a dick thing to say
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 PM
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33. we're tired...tired...tired...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:25 PM
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34. My Mom is actually snoring at this moment.
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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I like her...she's speaking my language!
A little stiff, but perhaps its just the setting. Some work better in front of people than a SOTU response. I don't think she's hurting herself much here.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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36. we ARE divided as a people.
we haven't come together yet-

except to reject * by a majority
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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37. we ARE divided as a people.
we haven't come together yet-

except to reject * by a majority
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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38. Join us to work together, Mr. President----sleep well, god bless
How nice.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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45. I Felt Tucked in...
... eek.

- Dave
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Steely_Dan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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39. Don't Fucking God Bless Me
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM by Steely_Dan
I mean...please. I didn't used to me a militant Agnostic...But I think I've had enough.

-P
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:26 PM
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41. A little uninspiring. Also, Mr President is a lame duck
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:34 PM by dailykoff
and a stooge.
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lynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:27 PM
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44. Sorry, she lost me at the third sentence -
- when she was droning on about my parents and your parents and my dog and we're all from America and . . . zzzzzz SNORE zzzzz . . .
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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48. Lol!
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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49. Were you looking for a game show host? n/t
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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46. That was uninspiring. n/t
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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47. It's almost tradition that these responses are pretty wooden...
...isn't it?

It's harder to be inspiring when playing to one camera instead of to a large audience, but that doesn't fully explain it.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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53. Webb's address last year was inspirational. n/t
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:30 PM
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51. McCain and Sebelius are having a boring-off.
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM by Heaven and Earth
McCain in the Ben Stein of presidential candidates.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:31 PM
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52. Jesus, they might as well have had Lie-berman or
even the worst US Sentator, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, deliver that boring, useless piece of crap response.

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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:33 PM
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56. Lol!
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iris5426 Donating Member (697 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:32 PM
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55. That. Was. Awful.
How can the dems fuck this up when the opportunity to give a great response was handed to them on a silver platter. * sucked! But this was almost as bad...where was the anger, the emotion? If I was an independent or a repug I would not have been remotely impressed...even as a dem I'm not...
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sfam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:34 PM
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58. Competent but boring isn't exactly a bad thing to put forward right now.
Considering the rancor of the race, I think competent and boring is exactly the right tone to strike.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:37 PM
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59. What an uninspiring speaker
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:39 PM
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60. I have to imagine that when running for governer...
...she must have a bit more fire in her than that.
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:52 PM
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64. I was thinking the same thing
Maybe a national audience intimidated her
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:41 PM
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61. Why do they always pick the milquetoasts for this job? n/t
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:42 PM
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62. I dunno ... maybe that appeals to Kansans ........
.... seems pretty wooden to me.
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sjdnb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:52 PM
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63. She's a Dem who won a Red state by
playing the game. Nothing new. Expected as much from her. She's learned a lot about dealing with Reps from her Republican in-laws, also active in politics.
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ellisonz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:58 PM
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65. Too monotone.
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:15 AM
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66. I'm bummed
I was hoping for a better speech from her. She's done a really good job by being first, an insurance commissioner, and then a governor, in the reddest of the red states. I was talking her up and really expecting a better speech. In looking back, another poster I was exchanging with was 100% right -- we should have put Biden up there to start ripping. Or maybe have had John, Hillary, and Barack give a joint response.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 12:16 AM
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67. Robotic, almost Stepford Wife like persona
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 12:17 AM by notadmblnd
I wonder who had her made, Harry or Nancy?
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:44 AM
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69. Just for perspective
we should all remember that this response was written, vetted, rehearsed, and approved by the party...she had little to say about the content or the delivery.

As I said in a previous thread, I think the SOTU is viewed religeously by indies and the sitting president's party and often missed by those opposed to the pres or in the opposing party. Nobody cares what our candidates look like to the supporters of w. or members of that party. Those indies who are watching though are the swingers. Many of them have respect for the sitting president whether they agree with him or not. They are the ones who it is important we not alienate by acting childish and refusing to acknowledge irrefutable bipartisan goals mentioned by the president in the SOTU. Obama and Hil did the right thing by acting like adults ...they will have plenty of time over the next several days and weeks to refute and admonish w. all they like without alienating the indies who, like it or not, are crucial in winning the general election.
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