Did Barack Obama Refuse To Shake Hillary's Hand?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

I'm not one for tender hearted niceties...If someone doesn't want to shake my hand fuck him or her but I'm not running for president...If it's true it's going to cost him dearly among women voters as it did when Clayton Williams refused to shake Ann Richards' hand after their televised gubernatorial debate...

[ErnestoG]

1. Simple answer? No.

Although it is a fevered fantasy of the Hillarbots to think so.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. I Didn't See It So I Can't Comment

My comments only have relevance if the accounts I see here are true...

[jasmine621]

48. He merely turned away and pretended not to see her. nt

[ErnestoG]

77. False.

He was called away by someone else. You people are really stretching on this one...

[journalist3072]

7. In another thread, a DUer said Sen. Clinton reached to shake several hands

(including Sen. Ted Kennedy's). And Obama quickly turned away, to avoid interacting with her.

That is what another DUer watching, said happened.

[tammywammy]

And another DUer said

That someone called Obama and he turned to talk to them. :shrug:

[DUyellow]

31. "Neither has greeted the other" - CNN

[1corona4u]

66. What part of it was it in? The end...

I recorded it, and will go back and watch it, to give an objective report...

[Pathwalker]

11. Another Hillary insult from you - "Hillarbots". You love

name-calling, don't you? Is that your only purpose?

[Name removed]

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[Auntie Bush]

37. And may I ask...what's your purpose? And talk about name calling.

Pot meets kettle.

[Pathwalker]

47. Excuse me? Who did I call names, since I try not to?

You liked me the other day when you wanted a hug, now you say I'm name calling? The poster I was talking about has gone all over this forum today using Billary, etc, and slamming Clinton, making accusations, and I just wanted to call him on it.
Or, did you mean to reply to the other poster - I'm confused?

[Auntie Bush]

85. Sorry, I'm the one who is confused. I misunderstood our post entirely.

My bad. Seems like I've been doing that too much lately. I read it in a hurry and got distracted at the same time. I thought you were calling someone a Hillbot while telling someone not to call names. I really got that screwed up. I still like you and can still use that hug! I'm really, really sorry.

[Pathwalker]

86. Hi, Auntie Bush! No, I would never call someone that,

That particular poster has been calling Hillary supporters every nasty name in the book, and I decided to start calling him on it. I don't care for all the name calling regarding the candidate's supporters and many of the Anti-Hillary posters seem overly fond of Rush Limbaugh's talking points - whom I detest.
Anyway, apology gladly accepted, and here's some hugs for you;

:hug: :hug: :hug: :hug:

G'night! :hi:

[ErnestoG]

44. I usually say "Hillarzombies", but needed some variation

thanks for your concern.

[NMMNG]

79. Simple answer, YES

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iwAZfoVaIxMG3gK2KY4tpS9QN0NQD8UF9GT01

[Maven]

3. He didn't refuse her hand. But he turned away as if to avoid interacting with her.

She shook hands with other nearby Senators, including Kennedy.

[ErnestoG]

12. "As if"? Maybe because someone was CALLING HIM....

Don't you actually watch this stuff?

[Maven]

15. Yes, I watched.

Did you watch? Or are you speculating just to muddy the waters?

[ErnestoG]

52. Yes I watched. And I think you were watching someone else.

[Maven]

74. Well, now the AP has picked it up

See below.

[emilyg]

60. Type less - think more.

[ErnestoG]

73. Says They of the Empty Text Box.

[emilyg]

84. Exactly. Type less.

[shayes51]

32. Same thing.

[ursi]

4. prove it ...that's not what I saw on cspan

[Joe the Revelator]

5. Did this need a third thread?

Why don't you wait for some confirmation before smearing someone over something SO stupid.

[bunnies]

8. and a 4th and a 5th and a 6th and 7th no doubt.

Anything to bash Obama with. Anything at all.

[Joe the Revelator]

10. If I had a day like they had,I'd be grasping at straws as well

Here's to the echo chamber.

[bunnies]

27. agreed.

:toast:

[Levgreee]

9. If Hillary is interacting with someone, and he interacting with someone

he doesn't have to purposely head towards her and wait for her to stop talking to someone, so he can shake her hand. In fact it would look awkward.

Of course, he might have really just shrugged her off, but I don't know why the heck we would do that. Would be stupid, and shaking hands and talking is one of the things politicians are trained to do.

[KennedyGuy]

6. Cnn reported it..Guess she wasn't "likeable enough" tonight.

[Barack_America]

14. CNN is just looking for a story.

That they reported it doesn't mean that it happened.

They fantasize about this shit.

Shouldn't you be in mourning right now anyway?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. Mourning?

If I was any happier I'd have to change my underwear...

[Barack_America]

58. I think I addressed that to...

KennedyGuy.

I even took him off of ignore just to see what he thought about the endorsement, but I hadn't heard from him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

62. I Apologize Then

I merely asked a question based on the accounts by several DUers...

And then surmised what would happen if the accounts were true...

Refusing to shake a person's hand, even a person you think is odious is a faux pax and costly in political settings...

[alittlelark]

81. I have no one on 'ignore', but if I did

he'd be close to the pop of my list.

[H2O Man]

13. He won't say the Pledge!

[Barack_America]

18. I heard that he went to school in a madrassa.

Can you believe that?

And that he is an one-man islamic sleeper cell.

[H2O Man]

23. He seems too

much like Mike Tyson. You never see the two of them together. Maybe he really is Mike Tyson?

Did Mike Tyson bite the hand that feeds him?

[Pathwalker]

30. You know, he could be Mike Tyson's evil twin.

Nah, no one's that evil...except Cheney :rofl:

[tammywammy]

20. He doesn't wear the flag pin.

Unamerican!

[H2O Man]

25. And he swore

about a crayon!

[tammywammy]

34. The same crayon he used to write his kindergarden essay with???

That's it, I'm not voting for him. :)

[H2O Man]

36. That's the ticket!

And it was on CNN! They interviewed the crayon!

[Barack_America]

39. I expect all of my politicians to wear the flag pin, red and pink ribbons...

as well as a Live Strong, yellow bracelet.

2 of each if they really want to impress me.

[tammywammy]

40. Not the LiveStrong bracelet

The WristStrong one!

[ErnestoG]

16. I love these threads...what's next? "OBAMA PICKS NOSE IN SENATE!"?

Christ. Grow up, Hillarbots.

[JuniperLea]

26. This is rich!

Telling others to grow up in the same breath you call them names! I bet you pull pigtails too.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. I Merely Asked A Question Based On Accounts From Other DUers And I'm Being Crucfied In This Thread

As I said in my seminal post I could give a fuck...

[H2O Man]

89. I think that "teased"

might be a more accurate term. "Crucified" would result in the thread being shipped to the religion & theology forum.

My comments were intended to make fun of the non-event, which appears to have only cost Obama the votes of those DUers who were already firmly in another candidate's camp.

[Catherine Vincent]

38. What an idiot eh?

:)

[Connie_Corleone]

46. Idiots are those who called Obama an asshole without knowing the facts.

Neither Hillary nor Obama made an attempt to greet each other per CNN.

[joshcryer]

50. Obama is an asshole if he did that. What's idiotic about that?

[Connie_Corleone]

55. I'll assume you can't read.

[ErnestoG]

67. Oh that's stellar reasoning!

"IF". Seems to be the first rule of the Hillarbot playbook these days. Make something up about Obama, then call him an asshole if he does it.

[Catherine Vincent]

56. A couple of DUers said they saw that he deliberately ignored her

to not shake her hand. And as I said, when I see the video, and it shows otherwise, I will retract my calling him an asshole and apologize.

[ErnestoG]

69. Some DUers are just shy of the looney bin

So I'd be careful about taking their word for it right off the bat.

[Catherine Vincent]

76. Yeah, you're one of 'em nt

[ErnestoG]

80. Sticks and stones, baby

[JuniperLea]

88. DOH! LOL!!! eom

[juajen]

53. Well, Pollybamabot, I think I will.

You go and think of a Daisy, by a stream, with little fishes swimming by, by, by. See, life's not so bad, is it?

[Connie_Corleone]

19. I heard he stuck out his leg and tripped her as she walked past.

[tishaLA]

21. radical muslims who pretend to be christians are like that

[Baclava]

22. You ever take little kids to the beach?

At first they are all excited and run down to the waves to pick up some bauble they found and come running back to show you.

After about 20 or 30 trips they lose interest and so do I.

This thread reminds me of that.

[busymom]

24. Is there a link to video footage of this?

[DUyellow]

28. "Neither has greeted the other" - CNN

[bidenista]

29. i can't stop laughing

This is just getting pathetic.

(But did you see the way he twitched his eyebrow at her? Now that's gonna cost him women voters.)

[DS1]

35. I heard he whipped out the trouser snake and gave her a mushroom stamp

GASP

[tammywammy]

42. So wrong, so wrong

[question everything]

41. When? After the ABC debate, before New Hampshire

when Edwards and Obama ganged on her, they did shake hands but with so much chill that I was thinking there was a lot more warmth when the Republicans left the stage and the Democrats entered.

[Bitwit1234]

45. What do you expect...remember HE is the annoited one

and he thinks his BM's dont' stink.

[tammywammy]

49. You should really make this it's own thread

It's very enlightening. Especially your usage of "BM." The only person I know who said that was my Grandmother, bless her soul.

[Whisp]

51. shaking hands with some people...

you have to count your fingers after.

[jefferson_dem]

54. I think it was the other way around.

Frigid, Cruella-like Hillary refused to greet Obama.

That's what I heard, at least.

[johnnydrama]

57. so this is how adults do it?

Hear rumor on DU
call somebody an asshole
watch tape of actual event
apologize

That's how adults act?

[Connie_Corleone]

59. On DU, yes.

[jefferson_dem]

61. For the record, my comment was made with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

:hi:

[Tom Rinaldo]

63. Here is AP's Report on it

No chitchat between Clinton and Obama By LAURIE KELLMAN, Associated Press Writer
28 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - So close, yet so far away — and so bitter.

"Rival Democrats Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama came within a foot of each other just before President Bush's State of the Union speech Monday night and managed not to acknowledge each other, and certainly not touch.

Clinton, clad in scarlet, crossed the aisle between their seats on the House floor and reached out a hand to greet Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, the Democratic icon whose endorsement she had courted only to lose it to Obama.

Kennedy shook her hand while Obama, wearing a dark suit and standing between the two, turned away.

The rivals then retreated to their seats, only the aisle and four senators between them."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080129/ap_on_el_pr/state_of_union_clinton_obama_1;_ylt=AqLEuuZ_OG5qH8Psv5m7YvJh24cA

There is also a photo up at the link showing the moment when Hillary and Ted shook hands with Obama facing the other way.

[Tom Rinaldo]

65. In the photo Obama seems to be looking down and away and clapping

It doesn't seem in this photo that his attention was being diverted by anyone else.

[ruggerson]

68. "Obama turned away"

I guess it wasn't a DU rumor after all.

[maddiejoan]

78. clad in scarlet?

She was wearing the prototypical Washington DC red business suit.

I think they must pass them out to all female Senators on arrival in DC.

[bidenista]

64. AP has picked this up

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iwAZfoVaIxMG3gK2KY4tpS9QN0NQD8UF9GT01

[sjdnb]

72. Rather catty for such a uniter

Sheez, he can applaud Bush, but not shake a fellow Dem's hand. Classy :sarcasm:

[Cant trust em]

70. Let's see if this gets any play on MSM

if it does then it might make a difference. If not, then...not.

[Tom Rinaldo]

71. In answer to your question

The AP photo may or may not accurately capture this event or non event, but in it it "looks" like Obama is snubbing Clinton while she is going out of her way to greet Senator Kennedy. I have no idea how widely it will get circulated but it won't be helpful to Obama. If video footage gives a different impression of this moment his campaign probably should locate some.

[UALRBSofL]

75. DemSinceBirth

I'm not real sure if he refused to shake her hand or not but while Kennedy was standing and Barack was sort of by him, Hillary shook Kennedy's hand but Barack didn't. Whether it was intentional or not I don't know. While watching CNN the commentators did say Barack was watching to see if Hillary would stand up or not.

[bicentennial_baby]

82. Not his woman voter...

Good for him! I wouldn't shake that warmonger's hand either :D

[DemocratSinceBirth]

83. Nice Spin

He shook Bush*'s hand...

I guess Bush* is the Prince Of Peace...

A $100.00 donation to DU says you can't spin your way out of that one...

[CreekDog]

87. I actually don't care, there are 10 major reasons more important than this to base a decision on

And I'm here to register that thought.