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cloud75 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:05 PM
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Obama critical of Hillary being part of Wal-Mart in the 80's.. his wife linked to Wal-mart today.

Obama called hypocrite for wife's Wal-Mart link
By Philip Sherwell in New York, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 11:37pm BST 12/05/2007

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/05/13/wobama13.xml

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As a fluent public speaker, independent-minded wife, devoted mother and professional woman, Michelle Obama has been hailed as an invaluable asset to her husband Barack's mission to capture the Democratic 2008 presidential nomination.

Yet, while her style and performance are winning plaudits on the campaign trail, a little-reported business interest of Mrs Obama's has opened her husband up to one of the criticisms that politicians fear most - the taint of hypocrisy.



Business link: Michelle Obama
She is taking a break from her main job, as a well-remunerated Chicago hospital executive, to campaign for her husband. But she has just been re-elected to the board of an Illinois food-processing company, a position she took up two years ago to gain experience of the private sector.

And the biggest customer for the pickles and peppers produced by Treehouse Foods is the retail giant Wal-Mart, the world's largest corporation and the bête noire of American liberals, including Sen Obama, for its employment practices, most notably its refusal to recognise trade unions.

As the Illinois senator prepared to join the presidential fray late last year, he threw his weight behind the union-backed campaign against Wal-Mart. He declared that there was a "moral responsibility to stand up and fight" the company and "force them to examine their own corporate values".

According to the couple's tax returns, Mrs Obama earned $51,200 (£25,700) for her work as a non-executive director on Treehouse's board last year, on top of the $271,618 salary she was paid as a vice-president of the University of Chicago Hospitals.

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She also received 7,500 Treehouse stock options, worth a further $72,375, as she did the previous year, when she banked a $45,000 salary from the company.

The apparent contradiction between Sen Obama's political calculation to join the Wal-Mart-bashing lobby, and his wife's profitable role with a company that makes money from Wal-Mart, is being closely scrutinised by "opposition" research teams working for rival White House candidates, The Sunday Telegraph has learnt.

They are collecting information about Mrs Obama's Treehouse ties, anticipating that - in a country where "going dirty" is a political way of life - the link may provide valuable ammunition in the election campaign.

Such attacks could be particularly damaging for Sen Obama, who has promised a change from politics as usual. Just last week, on her first foray to the crucial first primary state of New Hampshire, Mrs Obama praised her husband's "moral compass", reflecting a key message of his campaign.

Joe Novak, a Chicago political consultant who runs an anti-Obama website, said: "The Obamas would have us believe that, when it comes to money and ethics and compassion, he is a different kind of politician.

"What's different here is that they actually seem to believe it. That's the only way they can justify the contradictions between what they preach and what they practice. Defending Treehouse while attacking Wal-Mart is a blatant example of personal hypocrisy."

Sen Obama's campaign team and Mrs Obama's spokesman did not respond to requests by The Sunday Telegraph for comment. But the senator previously told Crain's Chicago Business magazine that, while his views on corporate reform and social justice remained the same regardless of what happens at Treehouse, "Michelle and I have to live in the world and pay taxes and pay for our kids and save for retirement".

Hillary Clinton, Sen Obama's main rival for the Democratic nomination, can testify to the political dangers in liberal America of being associated with Wal-Mart, even though the company's cost-cutting policy makes its goods more affordable for the low-paid. The New York senator and wife of the former President Bill Clinton still encounters flak for serving on the company's board from 1985 to 1992, before becoming First Lady.

According to Treehouse's financial filings, Wal-Mart accounted for 16.1 per cent of its sales last year, up from 11.7 per cent in 2005 (a 37 per cent increase), comfortably making it the company's biggest customer. Treehouse's annual operating profits rose from $28 million two years ago to $84 million (up 200 per cent) in 2006.

Mrs Obama, 43, was re-elected to the board last month for a further three years, a period that would overlap with her husband's time in the White House if he becomes America's first black president.

Mrs Obama is Treehouse's senior non-executive director and sits on the company's audit and nominating and corporate governance committees. Her Treehouse connection is not the only awkward ethical question that has confronted Sen Obama as his past is dug over.

Earlier this year, in response to a newspaper investigation, he said he was unaware that his broker had bought $50,000 worth of stock in two speculative companies whose leading investors included some of his biggest political donors.

He has also apologised for his "boneheaded error" in striking a property deal with Tony Rezko, a Chicago Democrat operative facing a federal indictment.



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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:07 PM
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1. not sure about this one
Wal-Mart is so huge they buy from everywhere. Everyone who sells something to Wal-Mart is crooked? I don't know how much this holds up.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:12 PM
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5. "not sure about this one"
Me either.

This sounds like a "pull something, ANYTHING we can find negative against Mrs. Obama out of our ass" by the Clinton campaign.

:thumbsdown:
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Yuugal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:15 PM
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26. this is series111111
She worked for a company that sold pickles to Wal-Mart.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:07 PM
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12. If you took everyone who worked for every supplier of Walmart....what a long list THAT would be!!!!
What a friggin stretch! Gee....good thing she didn't work for Frito Lay or Wrigley's gum!

Get. A. Grip.

Hillary was on the Board of Directors of....Walmart.

Not Bic. Not Levis. Not Sunbeam. Not Black and Decker. Nor of any of thousands of suppliers.

She was on the Board of Directors of ..... Walmart!

Obama's wife cannot say the same thing....and it is intellectually and morally dishonest for you to imply it.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:53 PM
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15. I'm confused by your point
do you agree with the original post?
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:16 PM
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20. I totally disagree with the OP
I think it is intellectually and morally dishonest to imply that Ms Obama has links to Walmart. She is linked to a company that, like thousands of companies, is a supplier to Walmart. That makes pickles, forchrissakes.

I don't think the pickle company decides on what wages to pay Walmart workers. Or whether they can work more than 35 hours per week. Or whether they can unionize. Or whether they can have benefits. Or whether the small businesses in the local communities have difficulty competing with the China-Clad box store in town.

But Ms Obama worked for a pickle company. Big deal.

Actually, the story of Hillary on the Board of WalMart is more telling of a member of the privileged class being given a plum job because of her connections to power.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:19 PM
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22. Great. That's what I meant. n/t
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:38 PM
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28. I though the OP was going to say she shopped there. That would
be unforgivable. :)
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swoop Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:09 PM
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2. Who cares who was on the board at Walmart???????????
I don't care if Hillary OR Obama's wife was!
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:10 PM
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3. that's abit of stretch
guess that's the tactic to use when hillbots can't explain her rightwing stances
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:11 PM
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4. Sorry, dear, but that's from last May.
Check out this link from the Telegraph, and read the article while you're at it. It's a British paper, and that's how they date their articles.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml;jsessionid=WWA04HUTE4BD1QFIQMGSFGGAVCBQWIV0?xml=/opinion/2008/01/28/dl2801.xml
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:55 PM
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16. The Telegraph is a right-wing rag
It's a grown-up version of the Sun, which is the biggest pile of buttwad there is.

And didn't we beat the piss out of this story two weeks ago?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:28 PM
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23. Yes, but I guess folks are running out of material and have to
recycle their fluff. :crazy:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:13 PM
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6. Hillary & Walmart 15 years ago - Bad! Michelle & Wal-Mart last year - Sweet!
Hypocrites.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:19 PM
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21. Ms Obama was with a pickle company, not walmart and you know it!
How dishonest ARE you Hillary Herd stampeeders?
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:13 PM
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7. So HRC is guilty of diddling an intern?
We're talking about Barak Obama's wife, not Barak Obama.

...and, for that matter, she sits on the board of a company that WalMart buys stuff from....which is one hell of a lot different from sitting on the board of WalMart itself
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:14 PM
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8. Big box stores need to die, but more importantly, NAFTA needs to die.
Both have done SO MUCH damage to the majority of people in this country! However, they've ENRICHED like never before the rich of this country. Makes me sick.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:15 PM
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9. I like how your headline says "today"
When that particular article is dated 12/5/07, and it's been out for months before that.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:16 PM
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10. While I don't believe that Sen. Obama is different from any other politician,
I don't see any significance in his wife holding a relatively low-paying position for a Wal-Mart supplier. And it is absolutely meaningless that Wal-Mart is Treehouse's biggest customer. As the largest retailer it's the largest client for many, many vendors. BFD.
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 08:24 PM
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11. This again? She represented a company that sold PICKLES
Pick your battles.

Seriously.
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earthlover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:10 PM
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14. Heck....could have been worse....her company could have supplied ketchup!
Get. A. Grip.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:09 PM
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13. Obamas "do-as-I-say-not-as-I-do" philosophy...
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:56 PM
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17. Pickles are a right wing conspiracy
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 09:56 PM
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18. Her company makes a product carried by Wal-Mart. Big whoop!
Almost every American company which makes products which go on store shelves sells to Wal-Mart.
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mckeown1128 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 10:02 PM
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19. Ohh jesus not the return of the great Pickle-wing conspiracy...
Working with a supplier that probably gets screwed by Walmart(as most suppliers do) is not the same thing as working FOR Walmart. I am so sick of the BS on this board but this one is the dumbest one of all. I like the odd Rezko mention at the end.:eyes:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:03 PM
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24. Wow that's a vague link. They tried hard there I shop at walmart...
...Deifferent scenario being their lawyer with theirunion busting tactics they are famous for.
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:10 PM
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25. Very intresting article. Intresting article "boneheaded", I guess the writer had no bias at alll.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 11:37 PM
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27. K&R We have a right to know the truth -
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 12:13 AM by DianaForRussFeingold
:patriot: Thank You! It may be an inconvenient truth for the GOP brainwashed,however it is the truth!
All of a sudden, Obama and Hillary supporters believe the corporate owned, dis-empowering, talking heads? What's up with that?

We've done without checks and balances too long!

--"This story is a big eye opener about Obama's philosophical commitment to health care.
His wife is earning $300,000 from a hospital administration job that essentially amounts to PR work--
--"Chicago University Hospital Regularly turns away patients with no health insurance and made numerous patient dumping settlements.
"Community Outreach" director/VP was to get unpaid volunteers to go through the Emergency ward to "refer" uninsured and non emergency patients to other clinics.
Her role at the UCH seems to be a polite way to have folks removed from the waiting rooms."
"She provides a happy friendly famous face for denial of care and showing the indigent the door."
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_opinion_letters/2006/10/hospital_positi.html

-- "He has mastered the game instead of the ideals, applies his genius to playing the angles instead of changing the world for the better."
Joe Lieberman: Barack Obama's "Mentor in the Senate."
http://vichydems.blogspot.com/2006/04/joe-lieberman-barack-obamas-mentor-in.html
'Obama and the corporate media game?'-- http://www.correntewire.com/what_obama_really_meant#comment-70840

--Did Obama or Hillary supporters get an e-mail like this ?
:dem: :patriot:

Will Obama filibuster FISA? Will Senator Clinton? If not, WHY?
'Will the only Constitutional scholar in the race take a stand on retroactive immunity for the telcos?'- http://www.correntewire.com/will_the_only_constitutional_scholar_in_the_race_take_a_stand_on_retroactive_immunity_for_the_telcos

'Which candidate is a LEADER? Which are just politicians? :kick:
Elizabeth Edwards :patriot: - A Glimpse Behind The Curtain --
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhYN9nSIw6Q

--PLEASE! Check Out This Video- From The West Wing "Look at this video...as to brokering conventions and why it is good to do so. Even if this is from fiction, it is sometimes what we wish our times to be.
This scene is about brokering the convention and what could happen.
We have a decision to make...vote for the person who most embodies who will make our country free and strong...go back to Seattle, Atlanta, Tulsa, etc. We can hold our heads up high and say we are PART of the DEMOCRATIC Party.
Substitute Edwards...for Santos...and that fits the bill here!" Great Scenes for John Edwards -- benny05 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x88548

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