Something to ponder for those cheering the Kennedy endorsement

[Tarc]

Regarding one of the memes put out there over and over (and over and over and...) over the last few weeks and months by Barack Obama and his supporters; that Hillary...and by extension, Bill...are divisive and polarizing. This has been touted as a reason to vote for Obama since he represents change, does not have the baggage that the Clintons do, will not rile up the whole of conservatism, etc...

I'm wondering if these meme-repeaters have even an inkling of the bile and invective that the right-wingers have had for Teddy Kennedy FOR FORTY YEARS. If you're getting rankled over a few DU'ers bringing up Chappaquiddick in jest, then you are in no way prepared for what would come in the General Election. No, Ted K. isn't running himself, nor will he be a close associate of a potential Obama administr6ation, as Bill would be to Hillary. But you can bet that the first negative ad campaign run by the GOP nominee will be images and recitations of this endorsement, run in red state markets. The "liberal lion" is still Public Enemy #1 in those parts, now and forever more.

So all in all, I just find it interesting that one of the primary reasons cited for Obama being the more effective candidate has pretty much been neutralized by this latest endorsement.

[NYCGirl]

1. This is the fourth or fifth time I've seen this crapola here. Taylor Marsh

sending out the memos?

[Clarkansas]

2. sour

grapes

[mrreowwr_kittty]

3. You'd have a point if Ted Kennedy were running for POTUS. nt

[rodeodance]

11. you mean Ted won't be the co-president--??

[grantcart]

4. and that is why the clintons were on their knees begging for it

do you guys try to be clueless or does it come from trying to continue to prop up this increasingly bizarre Clinton campaign

[msongs]

5. "on their knees begging for it..." care to prove that claim? nt

[grantcart]

33. why are Clinton supporters so stubborn that you have to document

reports that have been all over the internet and MSM?


Senator Edward Kennedy chooses Obama, spurning Bill Clinton plea


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/01/28/america/28kennedy.php

Both the Clintons and their allies had pressed Kennedy for weeks to remain neutral, . . snip

The Clintons and their allies had reached out repeatedly to Kennedy, according to people familiar with the conversations, in the hope of at least keeping him neutral if they could not win his backing snip

[rodeodance]

12. story goes that Obama had sore knees also

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

6. What an odd sense of deja vu I'm having

Almost as if I have read this very same posting several times already today.

[Avalux]

7. I'll take that over rehashing Bill and Monica and impeachment any day.

If you don't think it's coming and all we'll hear from Republicans if Hillary gets the nomination, you're in la la land.

[Occam Bandage]

8. What crap. Tell me, did they run ads against Kerry highlighting TK's endorsement? No.

They simply bashed Kerry on his own "merits."

[DemBones DemBones]

22. No, because they had the Swiftboat liars. nt

[zulchzulu]

9. I wonder why Bill pleaded like a little girl with Ted to not endorse Obama

I'm sure he didn't want Ted to endorse his wife he's cheated on...

:rofl:

[Tarc]

13. I wonder why you're a bitter liar

Nah, actually I don't wonder. We already know. :rotfl:

[dionysus]

31. bitter would be you, o projecting one... have a grape...

[asthmaticeog]

10. Endorsements don't sway voters.

I don't know WHY the fuck DU has to have a flamewargasm to accompany every endorsement that gets announced. We're mostly politics junkies here, so yeah, we're interested in this stuff, but the world doesn't give a damn, and maybe rightly so. An endorsement from Ted Kennedy will not be Obama's Chappaquiddick. It'll hardly even register.

[Tarc]

14. You miss the point, predictably

This has been the Obamaniacs' selling point here for months; Obama is for change, Obama is Hillary minus the polarizing baggage.

Then he goes out and gets himself endorsed by any even more polarizing figure than Bill Clinton.

Good job guys; shooting oneself in the foot saves your opponents the ammo. :)

[asthmaticeog]

21. "Predictably?" I'm sorry, do we know each other?

I'm undecided, so this "Obamaniacs" label doesn't apply to me. Do you make it a habit to argue with phantomic enemies? Pretty neat how you got all that incorrect info from just my one post about endorsements, though.

[Tarc]

24. If it looks like a duck...

[asthmaticeog]

29. So what's your point?

I'm lying about not being an Obama supporter because you failed to grasp the intent of my post about endorsements? My view remains the same whether it's Kennedy endorsing Obama or Sean Penn endorsing Kucinich. It doesn't matter nearly as much as a lot of DUers make it out to.

[zbdent]

15. Told Mrs. ZBDent tonight ... the media will make this as the "kiss of death"

for Obama ... of course, anything Clinton is a "kiss of death" ... or, for that matter, anything Dem is a "kiss of death" ... and will lead to communism, socialism, and meteors crashing into the Earth ... yadda yadda yadda ...

[swoop]

16. No one is going to hold that against Obama.

My God, of all the people--he was in no way, shape, or form involved with Mary Jo and that whole thing. This is an asinine point that I don't even see rightwingers bringing up.

[Tarc]

17. Of course he wasn't involved, but that's not the point

The Rove machine pored over and parsed and minced John Kerry's Winter Soldier testimony and his service record in Vietnam. And you think they won't touch Obama for being linked to what they view as the worst liberal of all-time? It sucks but that's how politics works.

[swoop]

18. Too much of a stretch.

When I see it, then I'll believe it. I don't expect to hear the charge HERE first....

[rucky]

19. The people who would be turned off by Kennedy...

wouldn't vote for Obama anyways.

He's attracting people who normally don't care about politics, not the Dittoheads.

[demo dutch]

25. Well that would be the minority in this country, most of the country is somewhere in the middle.

[rucky]

32. most of the country is apolitical

and doesn't really know or give a shit who Teddy Kennedy is.

[demo dutch]

34. Don't know about that, of all the politicians, Ted Kennedy is pretty well known.

[ProSense]

20. Is that why Hillary sent Bill to beg for Kerry and Kennedy's endorsements?

Hillary sent Bill to beg for Kerry and Kennedy's endorsements

[Tarc]

27. Ahh, the ever-famous "sources said..." BS from Pro(Non)Sense

Neither they, nor you, pass the smell test. Move along, kid.

[demo dutch]

23. Finally someone who gets it! Thank you! My Independent husband already announced

that he will vote for McCain, if Hillary doesn't get it. Formally from Mass, he feels that the Kennedy endorsement foreshadows a candidate in Obama, who is way too liberal.

[EFerrari]

26. Oh no! We'll lose the mouth breather vote!

[gulliver]

28. Gotta agree.

It definitely undermines Obama in the GE. Kiss Reagan Democrats goodbye.

[dionysus]

30. ok wise sage... bwaaaaaaaa

weak weak weak....