The REAL spoiler is Senator Clinton

[Andrea]

All this talk about Senator Edwards as a spoiler got me to thinking about the idea of a spoiler. My conclusion is this: Senator Clinton is the REAL spoiler.

If she would drop out, people would quit flocking to Senator Obama just because they think he is the most viable ABC candidate. Then they could relax and really think about who would best serve them as president.

[mckeown1128]

1. I agree. nt

[havocmom]

2. Can I have the popcorn concession on this one?

I'll donate the profit to Edwards :evilgrin:

[Andrea]

3. Certainly you may

Especially in view of your pledge to donate!

[CreekDog]

4. No, no, no

No reason for her to drop out. Nobody is spoiling anything because this is a primary race. All three candidates have significant levels of support. They should stay in as long as they and their supporters deem it useful to the overall effort.

[UALRBSofL]

6. I'm sorry you feel Hillary is spoiling Barack's campaign bid

But this is a free country and as long as she is a viable candidate she will stay in the race till the end. Same goes with John. I'm not sure what all the posturing comes from to railroad John or Hillary out of the race, after all, this isn't communist China.

[CreekDog]

14. What the hell? I said Hillary shouldn't drop out

Reply to the correct post. I don't think anyone should drop out now if they don't want to.

Criminy! :banghead:

[DJ13]

5. It would certainly be a cleaner campaign if she was out

Oh well.........

[Andrea]

7. Very True

It takes two people to wage these dirty fights and Senator Edwards is having no part of it.

[populistdriven]

8. If Obama was not in. Imagine the Attacks the Clintons would be making on Edwards!!!

Their primary campaign is revolting

[UALRBSofL]

15. WOW

I can't believe people ASSume such things as this. I'm sure that was a fair and balanced statement you made since she hasn't done that. Hillary hasn't attacked John but I'm sure she will even though I have no proof, LOL.

[populistdriven]

17. They have always campaigned this way. Give us 1 reason not to think so.

[ErnestoG]

9. That's because she is of the "Politically Entitled" set

It's aaaaall about her. The country, well they can crash and burn. So can the Democratic Party. The main point to her is that she gets her pie.

John Kerry had a similar vibe to him, and I'm sure that had a part to play in the 2004 disaster.

[Evergreen Emerald]

10. yeah. That bitch should just leave. what the hell is she thinking

spoiling it for the guys.

oh brother.

[Andrea]

11. Well, here is an example of what so many are complaining about.

It's not a gender issue. It's about what is best for the country.

[Evergreen Emerald]

13. no. What is best for our country is to have as many voices as we can

attempting to shut people up is not democracy.

[havocmom]

18. May we quote you to the HRC supporters here pressuring Edwards supporters to sign on to Hillary

You know, the ones who keep misrepresenting the idea that Edwards has no chance?



I agree, we need many voices and attempting to shut people up is NOT democracy, but has been too frequently observed around here by those of us not enamored of Hillary.

[Evergreen Emerald]

21. Really? Those awful HRC supporters being mean for no reason?

[havocmom]

26. There are some who do her harm with their methods

And it would be kind to tell them so. Their smart ass remarks and personal attacks on constructive suggestions do not help her much.

[Evergreen Emerald]

28. you either have not been here long

or are blind to one candidate. It has been so ugly here for so long against HRC that could not come here...I could not understand why "progressives" would be filled with such hatred for a liberal powerful senator. And I started sticking up for her.

You may want to go back through history to see the progression of the "defense of Clinton."

Anytime anyone suggests that the HRC supporters are awful, I am amazed at the either short memory, bias, or lack of historical knowledge.

[havocmom]

29. Been here for years and see just fine.

Ugly against HRC? :rofl:

I don't see it your way so I don't see?

Maybe THAT attitude is part of the problem, but some HRC supporters will NEVER see any fault but others.

Have a swell week.

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. Then you are blind.

or biased.

[havocmom]

33. Yeah, all who disagree with you are blind or biased

Too bad about that democracy thing we have going on where you aren't the decider.

[Andrea]

12. Self delete - dup

whoops

[sfam]

16. Hillary is not a spoiler...she's a front runner. Edwards is not.

[havocmom]

19. Barely a frontrunner

[sfam]

20. Just to be clear, I'm an Obama supporter and Edwards should stay as long as he likes

But Hillary is clearly a frontrunner in every way you want to measure it - funds, votes, delegates, media coverage, etc.

But pressuring Edwards to get out is silly. The guy really has changed the debate. He wants to stay in, and this is his right. He should for as long as he wants.

[ozone_man]

22. That's why I would prefer her to drop out.

So the Democratic wing of the party can get down to substantive issues. As long as the DLC is forcing the debate right, we never get down to progressive issues. If it was between Obama and Edwards, we'd see a left shift in the debate. That would be exciting!

Great post btw!

[Andrea]

25. Thank you

and deliver me from the DLC!

[Raine]

23. Agree

she should drop out or maybe Obama should so that Edwards can go head to head against one of them. Either Clinton or Obama needs to drop out and quit being the spoiler against Edwards. :P I'm sick of being told my guy needs to drop out for the sake of one of the others. I say let one of them drop out. :D

[TheDonkey]

24. I don't think so. Obama is not a "anti-hillary" candidate

Sorry, I just do not see it.

[Andrea]

27. He probably does not see himself that way

nor do many of his supporters, but believe me I have met a huge number of people who say they are voting for him as the ABC candidate.

[Freida5]

30. Heaven forbid-a woman standing in a man's way. Especially a man with little experience.

[Beacool]

31. Are you for real????????????

Hillary should drop out so that the neophyte who 3 years ago was sitting his ass in the state senate can have an open field when he DOES NOT have the necessary experience and knowhow to be president of the USA????????

Please, I don't know if to laugh or shake my head in wonderment about the inanity spewed on this board........


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