Photos: Hillary Clinton steps down from the plane as she arrives in Sarasota, Florida

[flpoljunkie]

(Photos which will surely be in tomorrow's newspapers across the state.)


Democratic presidential candidate US Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) arrives in Sarasota, Florida for a fund-raising event January 27, 2008. Senator Clinton has said she wants to seat Florida's electoral delegates, which were stripped by the national party after Florida moved its primary to the earlier date of January 29. REUTERS/Brian Snyder


Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y., steps down from the plane as she arrives at the airport in Sarasota, Fla. Sunday, Jan. 27, 2008 to attend a fundraising event.
(AP Photo/Elise Amendola)


Democratic presidential hopeful, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. remarks on the weather as she arrives at the airport in Sarasota, Fla. Sunday, Jan. 27, 2008 to attend a fundraising event.
(AP Photo/Elise Amendola)

[Proud2BAmurkin]

1. presidential

[Inuca]

9. Absolutely

the way she manages those steps! Such mastery of the issues!

Come on!

[flpoljunkie]

98. The point here is Hillary's asking that the delegates be seated on election eve is campaigning!

A major pander, too, as well! Something she and Bill excel at.

[krkaufman]

109. Yep, completely calculating... knowing it will get coverage in the FL news media ...

... subtly skirting the "no campaigning" pledge. Couldn't she have waited until after the FL primary to make the request? Had she made a similar request before Michigan's primary? Or is it that she now realizes she may be in a real fight for the nomination, and is now scraping for every possible delegate?

[flpoljunkie]

112. Hil: "We now turn our attention to the millions of Americans who will make their voices heard in FL"

(This is a blatant attempt to curry favor with the voters of Florida, who are already voting early and will head to the polls on Tuesday--it's called campaigning by any definition of the word! Pure Clintonian!)

In a Saturday statement, Clinton said “We now turn our attention to the millions of Americans who will make their voices heard in Florida" followed by states that vote February 5. In a Sunday morning press conference, she repeated that her focus had shifted to Florida.

"I intend to be in Florida Tuesday night," she told reporters in Nashville, Tennessee. "The votes of the people of Florida and of course Michigan really matter to me. I am running to the president of our entire country."

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[fenriswolf]

2. course its the sunshine state

and she loves it so so much.

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. Florida - where NYers go when they're ready to retire

omen?

[JohnnyLib2]

6. LOL --you meanie.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

7. lol

[mckeown1128]

18. LOL ....you are bad.

:spank:

[HockeyMom]

59. Not me

Going back to NY when we retire. Cannot wait to get out of this state.

[VolcanoJen]

71. Prescient?

;-)

It's also the state where the cheatin' is done... it's also the state responsible for giving the world Democratic Underground. :-)

[CorpGovActivist]

78. !

:spray:

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. This Isn't 1960

There are people in FL from all over the world...It has a burgeoning Latino and Asian population...It's arguably the most ethnically diverse state in the nation...

[never_get_over_it]

94. What little pocket of Florida are you in

must be down by Miami - because where I am in Florida there is little to no diversity - white, racist dumb shits abound....oh and they love Ron Paul here to give you an indication of just how pathetically STUPID they are.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

108. Greater Orlando

Lots of Asians, gays, Hispanics, African Americans...

[never_get_over_it]

110. Wow good to hear

I'm not too far down the road from you well actually across the road from you - like EAST - and its pretty darn white here....but isn't Orlando's reputation kind of bad right now as in REALLY high crime.

[neutron]

4. She looks GORGEOUS

and happy and rested . . . and presidential.

[ecstatic]

16. yep nt

[BenDavid]

23. is obama trying to look at cleavage in this shot? obama is

an empty suit and if all you can say the reason you support obama is because he gives one hell of a speech and know nothing about his postions other then what you might hear in the debates or go read something on his website, then may I suggest you stay as far away from a voting booth as you can......cause the last time uniformed voters did this we got george bush and the more one listens to obama especially in the debates he does at times come across as so uninformed he sounds like bush......

oh i know i am rude but damn folks we are in serious times and we do not need a revival preacher to lead this country. We got serious problems and we need serious people to get us out of this morass this country is in and hrc is the person that can do it for us. Let hrc get all this mess straightened out and then obama can come in after all the work has been done and lead us in a verse or two of It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood......

[Big Blue Marble]

28. Do you work up that Obama hatred or does it just come naturally?

Whichever, it is really in the gutter. If an Obama or Edwards supporter talked about Hillary the way you talk about
Obama, you would be livid. So give up the nastiness and focus about what you like about your candidate.

It is not going to matter to me. You have worn out my patience. On ignore with you.

[Clinton Crusader]

54. "If an Obama or Edwards supporter talked about Hillary the way you talk about"

They do and a heluva lot worse.

[Big Blue Marble]

58. Didn't your mother tell you that two wrongs never make a right?

BenDavid's crudeness in that post was completely out of context in this thread.

It is always a lot easier to cry victim than take responsibility for your own actions.
If you do not like the tone of a small number of Obama supporters that are immature,
just do not emulate them.

[GoldieAZ49]

61. NO. You may not suggest anyone stay away from the voting booth

if they don't support your candidate.

You do sound like her, talking down to anyone that doesn't agree with you.

The last thing this country needs is Big Mama and her Mandates
:puke:

Sounds like a band from Arkansas, maybe Bill can play the trombone.

[ecstatic]

74. I find your post to be offensive and patronizing

You also managed to fit several code words/phrases/ideas into your post. Congratulations. :eyes:

[neutron]

85. good post

[rodeodance]

34. ALL-FIRED UP!! ALL FIRED-UP ALL FIRED-UP ALL FIRED-UP!!

[Beacool]

103. Yep, she looks great!!

In person she looks even better, I shook hands with her twice last Wednesday and even up close she looked terrific. In person she's also charming and charismatic.

Go Hillary, don't let the turkeys get you down!!!!

[AX10]

5. She is right.

Let every state have a say in this election.

[pampango]

11. Damn the party and the agreements that you have committed to.

If you have to be "creative" to win, "creativity" here we come. (If it weakens the party, that's not good, but winning is what it's all about.) :banghead:

[MonkeyFunk]

45. she's not breaking any part of her pledge

[pampango]

51. Then I support her. n/t

[Bolo Boffin]

Let every state that follows the rules have a say in this election. n/t

[flpoljunkie]

12. No, she is trying to change the rules in the middle of the game. Pure Clintonian.

Florida will award zero delegates in it's "beauty contest." The Florida Democratic party colluded with the Republicans in our Legislature and brought us to this place. They are the ones to blame.

That said, of course I voted, and voted early for Barack Obama!

[rodeodance]

49. oh, I think you are just green with envy that Obama got out-woman-euvered.

No, she is trying to change the rules in the middle of the game. Pure Clintonian.

Florida will award zero delegates in it's "beauty contest." The Florida Democratic party colluded with the Republicans in our Legislature and brought us to this place. They are the ones to blame.

That said, of course I voted, and voted early for Barack Obama!

[Unsane]

19. Unless it's NV, then I want to disenfranchise voters.

[rodeodance]

38. YES, Susan B. Anthony would be so so proud of Hillary who wants to enfranchise ALL.

She is right.
Posted by AX10


Let every state have a say in this election.

[GoldieAZ49]

66. except for the timing of it

had she said that when the dnc stripped the delegates from the states it would sound noble

saying it the day after she got handed her ass in SC sounds desperate

[rodeodance]

76. Perhaps. But, I do not recall if any candidates-10 at time? made a fuss

about those issues? my memory is vague--seems like years ago.

[Maribelle]

8. That's our girl

truly awesome

[Stephanie]

10. I will take this opportunity to say something nice about her.

I like her outfit.

[City Lights]

20. I like it too. She wears that shade of blue very well. eom

[mnhtnbb]

24. Hillary has been very well dressed recently. She's come a long way from First Lady days.

[rodeodance]

35. I think she looks good in emerald green also.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. How else should she arrive for her Fund Raising events?

How do Obama or Edwards arrive in Florida when they hold fund their raising events there?

[flpoljunkie]

15. You either miss the point or are deliberately playing dumb.

[Tom Rinaldo]

22. No, it's just that hypocracy gets me

Politics is a blood sport and it is played hard, but Hillary Clinton has played within the rules regarding Florida. Every campaign tries to maximize all legal advantages unless they think doing so will hurt them politically. Obama is the one who is openly campaigning in Florida through his TV ads, which violated his pledge. He has his excuses but that is what they are, excuses. The facts are still the facts.

[Clarkansas]

14. That's our Billary! Fighting for FL voters

when it is to their political advantage! ONLY when it is to their political advantage.

[Radical Activist]

17. She broke the rules because she's desperate.

I thought she left South Carolina because she was focused on Feb. 5th. Why isn't she focused on Feb 5 anymore?

[CoffeeCat]

27. In all fairness...

...she is fundraising in the state. Per the agreement, the candidates are allowed to fund raise.

With that said, how can anyone suggest that the Fla delegates be allowed to count, when the Dem
candidates have all agreed not to campaign there?

One person will NOT decide to change the rules midstream---because that would not be democratic
or fair. That would be cheating.

Hillary was part of the initial agreement regarding all of this. She alone cannot change the
rules.

I cannot even fathom what would happen to our party if she even attempts this. Obama and
Edwards would not stand idly by.

I'll reserve full judgment until we are actually given signs that Hillary intends to
blatantly cheat and behave this way.

I'm going to assume for now--that we're hearing rumors and that Fla and MI won't count.
I feel bad for the voters of MI and FL and I am sorry that this happened to them.

[iamjoy]

53. You Get It! Thanks!

Thank you for recognizing the horrible dilemma at hand. At least, I think you do.

Yes, it is wrong to change the rules midstream. Yes, it's like cheating. The Florida Democratic leadership should not have worked with Republicans in the legislature to change the primary date (to 1/29) after the Florida Democratic Party had already agreed to follow the rules which said no other primaries (except Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina) before 2/5. In Michigan, it was a Democratic legislature and governor.

thank you for also having a little sympathy for us voters, who have gotten screwed.

I'm trying to get over my anger at the entities involved. I hope something is worked out so this doesn't screw the Democrats chances in November.

[CoffeeCat]

62. I have such deep sympathy for you...

...and I cannot even imagine how disappointed all of you must feel.

I do understand how much this hurts, and I think most DUers understand
that it's really the voters of MI and FL who are losing out--and that
they shouldn't have to suffer because their leadership couldn't
get it together.

We're all with you on those points.

:hug:

[BeatleBoot]

95. The guys from Michigan are way too Macho for your Sympathy

Go cry on someone else's shoulder.

We're just fine with everything in the Wolverine State.

Even if Obama and Edwards were on the ballot, Hillary would have won.

I know that might be tough to swallow...but, hey.

Go make up shit somewhere else where the testosterone will allow it.

[CoffeeCat]

100. Sounds like someone needs...

...a cheery greeting from Hammy McCheekerton!

[GoldieAZ49]

67. Are all the candidates names on the ballot in FA?

[MonkeyFunk]

70. Yes

[Lucinda]

36. Because January 29 comes before Feb 5.

:hi:

[rodeodance]

42. there you go again--that old BORING word --you can do better?

..She broke the rules because she's desperate.

[juajen]

79. Women can multi-task. Comes from holding a child on your

hip, stirring the mac and cheese and answering the phone, all at the same time. I believe Pollybama has already admitted that he can't even keep his desk clean. Cheap shot, I know, but you make me mad.

[rodeodance]

84. LOL

[jefferson_dem]

21. Fucking cheater.

Boooo.

[Clintonista2]

31. How exactly is she cheating?

Under the pledge, candidates are permitted to fundraise in Florida. In the future, please educate yourself before speaking, thanks! :hi:

[rodeodance]

82. its one those--use a swear word and then run posts

[rodeodance]

43. It is very RUDE to use such words to describe her and then not even back up what you say!

Fucking cheater.

Fucking cheater.
Posted by jefferson_dem


Boooo.

[Azathoth]

25. Just like Bush. If you can't win fair, change the rules.

:grr:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

29. No, it's just like Bush to say "let's not count the votes"

[Azathoth]

41. No, it's like Bush to say "Let's count the votes the way that guarantees my win"

[rodeodance]

44. ha ha --good one.

[rodeodance]

26. Nice photos. Thank you.

[Lucinda]

30. Fundraisers are allowed in the agreement. But I'm betting you already knew that.

[Clintonista2]

32. Excellent photos, thank you! K&R!

[Big Blue Marble]

33. For every vote she gets with these tricks, she will lose two.

Voters are watching these Clinton tricks, Democratic voters. They do not like the Clinton's gaming the
system.

Florida is a really sensitive place for most Dems. We want our candidates to play by the rules.
Not cheat their way to power like Bush did. So keep it up Hillary it may cost you the nomination.

[MonkeyFunk]

47. What trick?

and be specific.

[Big Blue Marble]

55. 1. Pledging not to campaign in Florida

2. Accusing Obama of campaigning in Florida,

3. Breaking her pledge and going to Florida today.

4. Planning to use her uncontested "win" in Florida on Tuesday as the antidote to Obama's SC win.

5. Planning to attempt to seat the Florida and Michigan delegates when all candidates agreed to
the DNC's position to not seat them.

Only Hillary supporters would miss the dirty tricks in her behaviors. Actually I would argue that I used tricks as an euphemism.
There are far worse descriptions for these unfair behaviors. But then I hate being inflammatory. It just gets you guys so riled up.

[MonkeyFunk]

72. OK

1. She's not campaigning in Florida, so check that off your list.
2. Obama IS running ads in Florida. Check two.
3. She's breaking no pledge by going to Florida. Check three.
4. Pure speculation and spin. Check.
5. There's no trick in asking to enfranchise voters. Check and mate.

[rodeodance]

83. You did NOT get the memo: as Sen. Clinton did campaign in Florida

[DemocratSinceBirth]

101. And You Know A Lot About Florida How

DSB

Democrat since birth

Floridian since 7/11/1970

[Kittycat]

37. Did she get her name added to the Puke ballot?

Do anything to win.

[MonkeyFunk]

88. She didn't need to

she's on the Dem ballot, as are all the other candidates.

[Nedsdag]

39. "God Save the Queen."

"She's not a human being."

(With apologies to the Sex Pistols).

[Kucinich4America]

40. But I thought she wasn't going to campaign until AFTER the non-existent primary?

Yo Hillary....

Get your ass back to Washington DC and do your job tomorrow.

[rodeodance]

46. fund raising is hardly campaigning.

[MonkeyFunk]

48. she's not campaigning there

[Beacool]

106. She'll be back in DC in plenty of time to

hear Shrub deliver his State of the Union speech.

[Tom Rinaldo]

50. Fuuny how you left out "Hillary Clinton (D-NY) arrives in Sarasota, Florida FOR A FUND-RAISER

that is scheduled for today. The fact that Obama scheduled his Florida fund raisers on different days is his business. They both do them.

[MonkeyFunk]

52. It's not funny

people here will happily use the tactics they pretend to decry.

If Clinton lied one one-hundredth as much as people here do, they'd have a cow.

[flpoljunkie]

56. You don't read too good, as they say. The point is the timing and visibility of Hil's arrival

[MonkeyFunk]

73. All the candidates are perfectly free to fly to Florida today

if they like.

[shaniqua6392]

57. She looks great!!

And so does that Florida sunshine. We could use some of that here in Michigan. Yuck. Thanks for posting the pics. I hope her fund raising goes well for her.

[Turn CO Blue]

60. I will say something nice about her that will still get me flamed...

but she has the best haircut evah! Someone will post that this is somehow a slam against her, but that's because they don't realize how a good cut (instead of the chopping most people get for $15) can really enhance a person's looks. I swear, Jennifer Aniston has always gotten attention for having the greatest haircuts - but this cut on Hillary is absolutely the best! It's very flattering on her.




Go John!

[rodeodance]

86. you are right. a good cut can do wonders.

[oasis]

63. Many months ago Hillary made a pledge to supporters: "Im in it to win it". (eom)

[Adsos Letter]

64. I like the cut of her jib...

or something like that...I think she could stand up to foreign leaders, and congressional opposition, just fine...

[begin_within]

65. Third photo: "There's NO business like SHOW business..."

[enough already]

91. I was thinking Judy Garland....

....but Merman works much better. Good call.

[shayes51]

68. Thank you!

[applegrove]

69. She looks like a President for sure. I don't get all this sitting and Florida

being penalized. What does it mean? Do they loose their delegates?

[MadBadger]

75. Yes they lost their delegates. And every candidate agreed not to campaign there.

[GoldieAZ49]

77. FL lost its delegates 214 I think

because they moved their primary up to 1/29 instead of 2/5

That is why it is being called a "beauty contest"

However, unlike Michigan (where 45% of the voters turned out in bad weather (snow, forget how much) to vote against Hillary by voting uncommitted)
All three candidates names are on the ballot in Florida

[MoonRiver]

80. Beautiful, classy lady!

K&R

[rodeodance]

81. needs some RECs--lets get them to the front page.

[windbreeze]

89. I have one question....

Why doesn't she wear a skirt once in a while?? She needs to show she's proud of herself as a woman...she's wearing pants in every picture I have seen of her campaigning or in debates(notice I said, in every picture I've seen)...Perhaps there's a subliminal message, that she's trying to get across?..wb

[GoldieAZ49]

92. she NEVER wheres a skirt or dress anymore

[Honeycombe8]

104. Most prof. women wear pantsuits a lot these days. Laura Bush almost always wears pants.

Nothing at all wrong with that. It is totally professional, as well as looking chic and sophisticated. Besides, it's practical. Do you really want a skirt on walking down airplane stairs?

Final note...just to say....it is also true that both Clinton and Laura Bush have fairly unattractive legs, so that could be part of it. Nothing wrong with that. Everyone has a less attractive part of his or her body. With Hillary, it is her legs. They are somewhat chunky and shapeless with thick ankles. Same thing with Laura Bush.

[mnhtnbb]

111. Except Laura almost always looks terrible in her pantsuits. Her jackets

are too short for her figure and her pants are usually too tight.

I think being the Senator from New York has probably given Hillary access to some very savvy fashion consultants.

[robbedvoter]

90. Beautiful! Thanks!

[DemExpat]

93. She IS looking very good!

Great pictures.

DemEx

[TheDonkey]

96. Ah' the look of desperation and dirty tactics.

Where's bill?

[Tom Rinaldo]

99. Please explain why attending a previously scheduled fund raiser

which is fully allowed by all of the rules in effect, is a dirty tactic?

Seems to me the attempt to smear Hillary Clinton over this is the dirty tactic.

[ErnestoG]

97. Where is the entourage of kneelers and hand kissers?

I'll bet some heads will roll over this one...

[Honeycombe8]

102. It's true what "they" say about the Clintons, isn't it? They ARE ruthless rogues out for themselves

and nothing else.

Not the sort we want running our country.

[Tom Rinaldo]

105. Please explain why attending a previously scheduled fund raiser

which is fully allowed by all of the rules in effect, and which the other candiates have also done, makes her ruthless?

Seems to me the attempt to smear Hillary Clinton over this is ruthless.

[Beacool]

107. Why do you even waste your breath arguing with his fans?

Obama: the golden child, the anointed one who is devoid of fault.

Hillary: evil woman who wants to take away Obama's chance of becoming our nominee. A nomination that he's entitled to due to his great experience and wisdom demonstrated in the national arena.

Please...........


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